Federal ban on gay men's blood donation to be reconsidered

[Jiro]

I know, a friend's father works in that field specifically (He was head of the NIH team trying to find a cure).

I vaguely remember that some scientists discovered that they can "modified" AIDS virus as a cure for other disease

 

[TXgolfer]

exactly! from scientific viewpoint, HIV/AIDS is an incredibly amazing thing. It's extremely adaptive and intelligent. IMO - it's pointless to continue finding cure for it.

All the money and time spent on finding cure.... imagine if you put that same amount on better screening tool. Imagine the result! You could use a home device to perform a quick "few-minutes" blood test on him/her before engaging in sex..... just like the one that a diabetic person uses on daily basis.

Good luck finding a manufacturer to assume the risk of producing such a test

 

[CJB]

exactly! from scientific viewpoint, HIV/AIDS is an incredibly amazing thing. It's extremely adaptive and intelligent. IMO - it's pointless to continue finding cure for it.

All the money and time spent on finding cure.... imagine if you put that same amount on better screening tool. Imagine the result! You could use a home device to perform a quick "few-minutes" blood test on him/her before engaging in sex..... just like the one that a diabetic person uses on daily basis.

That and also education and resources. There's a correlation between higher HIV+ rates and lack of education/resources.

 

[Steinhauer]

I vaguely remember that some scientists discovered that they can "modified" AIDS virus as a cure for other disease

when he was talking to me about it he said something about bone marrow transplants (???)

 

[Jiro]

Good luck finding a manufacturer to assume the risk of producing such a test

I don't follow. why? what's the difference with manufacturer producing a device to test for disease, cancer, etc? Red Cross blood bank is using those devices.

 

[Jiro]

when he was talking to me about it he said something about bone marrow transplants (???)

hmm.... no idea lol. sorry. I only read a small paragraph about it long while back when I was at john

 

[Jiro]

That and also education and resources. There's a correlation between higher HIV+ rates and lack of education/resources.

yep... especially in Africa. A man infected with AIDS/HIV thought he can be cured if he has sex with virgins :roll:

 

[naisho]

That and also education and resources. There's a correlation between higher HIV+ rates and lack of education/resources.

To be honest with you, there's only one known cure I know of and that's just common sense.

If you inject yourself with an infected needle or blood droplet makes it into a cutaneous wound, you immediately amputate that section off.

I'm 99.9% sure this will work as long as HIV has not traveled into the blood stream to be carried around. But of course, look at the practicality. Lose your limb?

The other method is to develop methods to improve on bolstering defense in the antigen binding sites, or by better recognition with the macrophages. Since it goes undetected (asymptomatic), HIV is too deadly.

 

[kokonut]

Interesting.

 

[Jiro]

I wasn't the one who asked the question ... I was the one explaining to you what was being discussed.

Do all medical facilities follow the same protocol?

assuming you're talking about America - I hope so! Red Cross has its own stringent screening protocol but Red Cross is not the only one providing blood to all blood banks. There are dozens of corporations so it depends on which hospital since they make contract with blood bank company. I believe most "good"/reputable hospitals would use blood bank company with stringent screening protocol like Red Cross or related.

 

[Steinhauer]

assuming you're talking about America - I hope so! Red Cross has its own stringent screening protocol but Red Cross is not the only one providing blood to all blood banks. There are dozens of corporations so it depends on which hospital since they make contract with blood bank company. I believe most "good"/reputable hospitals would use blood bank company with stringent screening protocol like Red Cross or related.

but are these same stringent protocols used region to region?

 

[TXgolfer]

I don't follow. why? what's the difference with manufacturer producing a device to test for disease, cancer, etc? Red Cross blood bank is using those devices.

Talking about the home AIDS testing kit.......

 

[Jiro]

but are these same stringent protocols used region to region?

I surely hope so! It is most likely that Las Vegas blood banks use the most stringent screening process while Boise blood banks use "acceptable" screening process (lower than LV standard) due to low AIDS/HIV prevalence rate.

 

[Jiro]

Talking about the home AIDS testing kit.......

I still don't follow. Remember - your mindset is still in 20th century. The mindset in late 21st century will be different. They will view HIV/AIDS as diabetes. Think about the people's mindset in 18th century and 21st century about hygiene (like showering once a week or daily).

And also..... think about the mindset from 1980's and now toward AIDS. quite a vast different, isn't it?

 

[TXgolfer]

I surely hope so! It is most likely that Las Vegas blood banks use the most stringent screening process while Boise blood banks use "acceptable" screening process (lower than LV standard) due to low AIDS/HIV prevalence rate.

another factor to consider. Or you can throw your hands up and hope.

It's ok if you don't care about risk. Also ok if you don't want to play the hypothetical game. Afterall you kinda pinned yourself in with your original Las Vegas comment. No biggie though. I stand by my statement.......if the blood carries the same risk I don't care which blood I get but if there is the slightest difference and I have a say.....I take the least risk. Seems like common sense to me.

 

[TXgolfer]

I still don't follow. Remember - your mindset is still in 20th century. The mindset in late 21st century will be different. They will view HIV/AIDS as diabetes. Think about the people's mindset in 18th century and 21st century about hygiene (like showering once a week or daily).

And also..... think about the mindset from 1980's and now toward AIDS. quite a vast different, isn't it?

It was a quip......I don't see many manf. assuming the liability of home AIDS testing kits. Maybe they will. Who knows. I don't really care.

 

[Jiro]

It was a quip......I don't see many manf. assuming the liability of home AIDS testing kits. Maybe they will. Who knows. I don't really care.

ah well - it's same for pregnancy test and glucose test (for diabetes).

 

[Jiro]

another factor to consider. Or you can throw your hands up and hope.

It's ok if you don't care about risk. Also ok if you don't want to play the hypothetical game. Afterall you kinda pinned yourself in with your original Las Vegas comment. No biggie though. I stand by my statement.......if the blood carries the same risk I don't care which blood I get but if there is the slightest difference and I have a say.....I take the least risk. Seems like common sense to me.

no no. Let me help you understand better.

I used the Las Vegas example because you go by least "perceived risk" which is similar to being stereotypical for risk assessment.... It is notoriously erroneous. Since you go by "least perceived risk".... you pick Boise simply because Las Vegas is a dirty sinful promiscuous city full of disease from all 4 corners of the world. Get it?

 

[CJB]

To be honest with you, there's only one known cure I know of and that's just common sense.

Lots of people need to be taught common sense. It'd probably do some good to outline "shoulds" and "shouldn'ts" at health clinics and in schools.

 

[kokonut]

Abstinence. Don't do drugs. Don't share needles. Stay away from infected blood. We're protection. Etc...

Which ones of the common sense are you talking about?