Do you know when will 100% Closed Caption theater movie???

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Do you know when it will 100% Closed Caption Theater movie will be? I wish they will 100% for all CC on theater movie so far. I remember the Law and ruel that will be 100% for Closed Caption till 2007 I think if I right? I can't remember. I wish they all can be on Closed Caption into theater movie so far.
 
I doubt this will ever happen. It could happen on television, but it will never happen in movie theaters. Remember, captioning on television is selectable. In theaters, it's not. If they do figure out a way to make it selectable, then it's possible.
 
If they do, it'd be truly wonderful to be able to choose whether to have captions and all that.. ah well.
 
If they could make closed captioned selectable at the movie theathre to the visions of some users who are deaf and hearing don't see it, and deaf can see it. it's like a invisible projection thing or some halogram, who knows. Just a idea. :)
 
Ok, about TV Closed Caption, I already knew about the law! So, will be in 2006 must be all 100 percent. But, old program, and new program will be in 2008 for 100 percent. Right now, it is 95 percent, and program was 75 percent.

Also that will be new spanish Closed Caption will be in 2010 so far. That the law say so. So, FCC had to be responable.

What next? I don't know what happen about Theater Closed Caption? We will find out. I think I can ask ADA question about Theater Closed Caption. WE will find out more.
 
It will never happen until movie watching becomes a personal selection choice. By then, you'll just watch movies from the convenience of your home any time you want.
 
Well, I don't have in closed caption in Crestview, Florida. NO one closed caption? That is why I tell you. Must be all U.S America to be all Deaf who live in city. If I live in City, like Crestview, FL there have a movie speical. So, what if there no closed caption? What will suppose to do? See, that is why I will have to find out and ask ADA to help us what I will do? So, I know they try to find and choice where they are. Hopefully will all 100 fully in theater movie Closed Caption into City area and small City too.
 
It is very costy for them to make all movie CC and it brings inconverience to hearies because they are not trained to watch the picture and read the word at same time. They are sometime consideration of us but they are more consideration of hearies since the majority is hearies. If the majority is deaf, thats different story. I do know that in Rochester, they have one movie that is on caption all the time. Right, Vampx?
 
I don't know either. I have no idea for sure. We will find out more later. Hopefully it will fully 100% for Theater Closed Caption.
 
scottw said:
I don't know either. I have no idea for sure. We will find out more later. Hopefully it will fully 100% for Theater Closed Caption.


It's never going to happen, but they already have open captioned movies available during certain times. Check http://www.insightcinema.org for your local theaters or wait until it comes out on tape/DVD.
 
I am sure there will be 100% never happen into Theater so far. It will be near future so far. We have waiting for theater. I like to go out to movie. I don't know if there no closed Caption on Theater. I don't care. Then I wait for DVD. Then I finally will get some DVD later. I will buy Harry Potter 3!
 
If I am the "Dream of Jeannie" then
I would make this happen instantly
something like a boom.

Because after I see some rental movies
with captions, I want to discuss with
some hearing people about these plots etc
but these hearing people said something like this
"Oh, that's old movie I cannot remember anymore"
ending our discussion right there.
They want to talk about the most current movies
but deafies we have to wait and wait
until much later. Is this fair ?
 
Newer more inexpensive text billboards, will allow them to fall to $500 per installation. Right now it is something like $5000+ per movie theater. This may eventually make captioning at the theaters more popular. This may take about 5 years or so, but I hope it will happen and the number of closed captioned screens will greatly increase.

For the same price of yesterday's movie captioning system, you can buy 10 movie captioning systems! Fill a WHOLE multiplex, not just one screen!
 
Mark Rejhon said:
Newer more inexpensive text billboards, will allow them to fall to $500 per installation. Right now it is something like $5000+ per movie theater. This may eventually make captioning at the theaters more popular. This may take about 5 years or so, but I hope it will happen and the number of closed captioned screens will greatly increase.

For the same price of yesterday's movie captioning system, you can buy 10 movie captioning systems! Fill a WHOLE multiplex, not just one screen!

According to the customer service at Famous Players, it is $20,000 CDN per installation. (rear window captioning)
 
That could include installation and maybe operating costs. The signs themselves are not particularly expensive, when mass-manufactured, and the prices are falling, with more inexpensive technologies (blame China for the falling prices in cheap LED advertising sign market). One price quote I heard was $8,000 USD, but I had heard it has fallen to $5,000 USD now. Famous Players installed these screens when they were still $20,000 CAD.

Also, Billboard Ethernet Protocols are slowly becoming standardized, to the point where all you need is a $199 walmart computer to operate the captioning.

Hopefully within 10 years it'll be $500 for the sign, plus the usage of the existing computer hardware already in a modern projection booth, utilizing fully industry standardized stuff rather than expensive proprietary-made stuff.

Caption decoders used to cost $500. Now closed captioning costs less than $1.00 per television, because the same computer chip that displays the menus and "VOLUME |||||||||| 100%" bar is used for the captioning too!

A price drop of one order of magnitude will happen (at least for the hardware itself). Give it at least half a decade to a decade, probably sooner.

Of course, installation and operation costs are extra. That will probably fall over time, as things become more and more integrated and standardized. (I remember digital sound used to be incredibly expensive to retrofit in a theater, but prices have fallen over an order of magnitude)

Especially if some kind of mandate eventually makes it captioning a requirement like disability ramps. (And much like FCC mandated captioning being built into all TV's)

Within about 20 years, a 100% penetration rate for big-name multiplexes isn't quite out of the realm of possibility. It's possible. All it may take is a mere 5 million dollar grant by a rich deaf person 10 years from now COMBINED with a mandate, to coax the theaters to install inexpensive mass-produced captioning systems. (No need for the $100+ million donations that routinely happen, like Bill Gates Foundation $150 million to fight AIDS/malaria/tuberculosis)

Besides, some Digital Cinemas today already use encrypted DVD-like discs that can have provisions for a built-in caption track that can be routed to an RWC-style system. Almost all DVD's have builtin subtitles, they just make a future special super-high-def IMAX-quality "DVD" for the movie theaters (There is a 24 megapixel prototype digital cinema projector already! 3840x2160x3chip prototyped by Sony).

Within 20 years, many cinemas will be digital electronic cinemas. When things become standardized (much like today's DVD's with subtitle tracks), it'll be cheap to pipe the caption information to a cheap $500 LED billboard at the rear of the theater using an industry standard Ethernet billboard protocol.

Never say never. It may take 20 years, but 100% penetration of captioning is possible. In about 10 years from now, all it would take is a mere $5 million for enough captioning systems for ALL of North America's mainstream first-run hollywood-film theaters -- provided the cinemas install the captioning systems themselves. (By the way, a SINGLE mega-multiplex cost more than $5 million to build nowadays!)

It will take time... But it will happen. Just 20 years ago, nobody believed that nearly every single television would have a caption decoder!

Example Requirements Going Forward:
1) An industry standardized billboard protocol widely available in advertising billboards (preferably Ethernet based). There's several standards, but some of them are converging into an industry standard. Forget proprietary captioning protocols.
2) Cheap mass manufactured billboards for captions (i.e. China-made advertising billboards). Just use dark glass to dim them for theater use. Though, some models now already have adjustable brightness. Prices will continue to fall over time, until a large LED marquee billboard costs under $500.
3) Industry-standardized closed captioning track built into the movie. This is already becoming more and more common, thanks to RWC/DVS.
4) Inexpensive compact software that translates the closed captioning track for use by billboard, installed on the existing projection-booth computer (computers are quickly becoming standard equipment in many projection booths).
5) Future movie standards such as Digital Cinema, to have specifications for built-in closed captioning that can be cheaply routed to ordinary advertising LED billboards.

As things improve over the years, prices of retrofitting a movie theater for captoining, should fall over an order of magnitude.
 
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You know what I would like. I would like someday to have all movie theatres ar least have one captioned room. That would be nice instead of having to drive an hour away.
 
About the caption

I know there are require on movie theater. Their responible must be provide as met for us and enjoy the movie. However; if there are no open caption then there should have rear mirror provide that one. What the different the wheelchair doesn't go all over the movie theater. I went to the movie and see the sign post picture of wheelchair. So far, I never see anyone who is wheelchair where I tend went to the movie theater. Same idea for the deaf who doesn't go all or single theater movie.

I don't see the different to waiting until 100 percent. In my option, it will not going happen to post on the theater movie. Only I know that will happen for rear mirror caption. Even I saw some website provide caption on glasses that we can wear. It clean germ or bartica that we don't get sick or share the oil thing underneath the glasses. It worth a lot month to spend the money but they should think that other side to ask for fund support or get their money back from TAX.

Expecting lucky for deaf college always have open caption whenever the movie is release to theater movie.
 
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