Defiant Wilson raises more than $200,000 after outburst

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Cowpuppy said:
Ha! they have to play thier cards a certain way or the 'donations' dry up. No big secret. Vote a certain way. Lobby a certain way. Call the president a liar...those kind of things. donations my ass.
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Exactly. More like payola.
 
Jiro said:
oh yes I know - I have no beef with you either but like you - I am tired of same old un-winnable argument. It's ugly. why do it again and again and again when the result is same - closed threads, banned ADers, and ugliness that drives us apart.
some people are just more vocal than others and they refuse to bend over and let them have at it. some just take it as it goes (like you and me).
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Yeah, I felt sheepish having to put "ignore" on it but it was the right thing to do. I refuse to bend when people become stubborn. That is me. The part in bold is some of the best stuff you've written. Well said.
 
jiro said:
oh yes i know - i have no beef with you either but like you - i am tired of same old un-winnable argument. It's ugly. Why do it again and again and again when the result is same - closed threads, banned aders, and ugliness that drives us apart.

some people are just more vocal than others and they refuse to bend over and let them have at it. Some just take it as it goes (like you and me).
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i am sorrryyy!!!!!!!
 
Hmmm...interesting conversations. I thought this was about Joe Wilson?

Anyways...

Interesting news even though it's only 8 hours old, Wilson managed to raise over $750,000 in less than 48 hours. Wow! Not bad. Probably closer to a million by now but we'll see how it goes with the 9/12 March later on today. I can hear them chant now, "You... lie! You...lie! You...lie!" as they point their index finger. And then I suppose they'll donate even more $$ to the Joe Wilson's campaign coffer but the kicker is probably the Dems memo that was leaked on purpose fearing the 3-day event will see up to 2 million people. I guess it's their way of throwing out such high expectation and then if the turnout turns out to be much less than a million then they'll start writing in their articles saying how much the march was a bust and such.

What are the odds that t-shirts and clothing articles will be sold with the "You lie!" wordings on it? I'd say it's an even bet by now, maybe more.

09.12.09 March on Washington | The Tea Party Movement Goes to Capitol Hill

What's the march about? Probably everything what Joe believes in. Lower taxes, less govt, too much spending, too much deficit, too much borrowing, too much printing money (inflation), and so on.
 
So what about Wilson's opponent? Does that make Democrat Rob Miller "greedy" too for taking advantage of the situation?

Wilson's, opponent's campaign treasury growing

By SEANNA ADCOX and BEN EVANS (AP)

WEST COLUMBIA, S.C. — A national Republican fundraising committee says U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson has raised more than $700,000 since yelling "You lie!" during President Barack Obama's health care address.

Andy Sere, spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, said Friday that contributions have been pouring in since the South Carolina Republican's outburst Wednesday.

The heckle also has boosted campaign funds for Wilson's 2010 Democratic opponent.

Jessica Santillo of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee says Rob Miller has received more than $875,000 from 24,000 donors nationwide for his second bid to unseat Wilson....
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The Associated Press: Wilson's, opponent's campaign treasury growing

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kokonut said:
Hmmm...interesting conversations. I thought this was about Joe Wilson?

Anyways...

Interesting news even though it's only 8 hours old, Wilson managed to raise over $750,000 in less than 48 hours. Wow! Not bad. Probably closer to a million by now but we'll see how it goes with the 9/12 March later on today. I can hear them chant now, "You... lie! You...lie! You...lie!" as they point their index finger. And then I suppose they'll donate even more $$ to the Joe Wilson's campaign coffer but the kicker is probably the Dems memo that was leaked on purpose fearing the 3-day event will see up to 2 million people. I guess it's their way of throwing out such high expectation and then if the turnout turns out to be much less than a million then they'll start writing in their articles saying how much the march was a bust and such.

What are the odds that t-shirts and clothing articles will be sold with the "You lie!" wordings on it? I'd say it's an even bet by now, maybe more.

09.12.09 March on Washington | The Tea Party Movement Goes to Capitol Hill

What's the march about? Probably everything what Joe believes in. Lower taxes, less govt, too much spending, too much deficit, too much borrowing, too much printing money (inflation), and so on.
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I doubt seriously that you'll find the insurance execs participating in this march, and since good ole Joe has them in his pocket, I doubt seriously that the march will raise a great deal of funds.

Looks like good ole Joe is on his last legs.
 
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Big monstrous looking guy behind a desk with a sign saying "No to everything." says "Don't be afraid to be a jerk. Yell out and challenge every statement. Rattle him, get him off script, get in his face. Stand up, shout, and disrupt."

Old bald guy in suspenders in front of desk relpies; "At a presidential address in the house chamber? Congressman, are you sure?"
 
Some noteworthy underlying themes:

- There is a framed picture of a Republican elephant with the text GOP underneath on one of the walls.
- The guy is a redneck-looking blob with sharp teeth holding a book called "Town Hall Disruption Manual" which he is quoting.
- There are two additional signs behind the "NO TO EVERYTHING," one says "It's socialism" and the other say "Nothing, nothing"
- I can't make out what the blob's hat says: "No..." something.
 
Wilson apologizes, but says won't be muzzled
Dems plan to vote to admonish him unless he apologizes on the House floor

WEST COLUMBIA, S.C. - Democratic leaders will vote early next week on whether to admonish Republican Rep. Joe Wilson if he does not apologize on the House floor for yelling "You lie!" during President Barack Obama's health care address.

Brendan Daly, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, said Friday that party leaders decided they will likely move forward with a resolution of disapproval against Wilson if he doesn't apologize to Congress.

Wilson told Obama he was sorry shortly after the incident on Wednesday, but has refused requests to apologize on the floor. Wilson's office says the congressman considers his initial apology sufficient. He has also been telling supporters he will continue to speak loudly about the issue and "not be muzzled."

Obama said Thursday he accepted Wilson's apology, telling reporters that "we all make mistakes." The White House said it considered the incident over, and Pelosi, D-Calif., initially agreed, saying she wanted to focus on moving health care legislation forward.

But many Democrats remain angry with Wilson's insult and have pressed for further action. They say the insult clearly violated House rules.

While voicing public contrition, Wilson, meanwhile, has taken a more combative tone behind the scenes.

In a video posted on his campaign Web site, he acknowledged that he let his emotions get away from him during Obama's speech but added, "I will not be muzzled. I will speak up and speak loudly about this risky plan."

Wilson said his critics want to use the flap over his outburst to silence opponents of health care reform, and he urged supporters to rally to him.

"I need your help now," he said.

Asked if Wilson planned to apologize to the House, spokesman Ryan Murphy said the congressman "apologized to the president and the president accepted and said let's move on and have a civil discourse, and the congressman agrees."

A political boost

Support is stilling pouring for Wilson's Democratic opponent. Since Obama's health care address Wednesday night, the campaign coffers of Rob Miller, who is challenging him in 2010, swelled by $750,000 by Friday morning, according to Jessica Santillo of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. It's not clear whether the people who made the donations live in South Carolina.

The Republican Congressional Campaign Committee didn't respond to questions about donations to Wilson's campaign. Wilson's campaign voicemail box was full Friday and his office phones either went to voicemail or were not answered.

Wilson's outburst made some supporters shudder even as others believed it could give him a political boost in his conservative hometown.

"He's the only one who has guts in that whole place. He'll get re-elected in a landslide," said John Roper, an insurance agent, as he sat among patrons at a diner near Columbia.

Still, Southern sensibilities reign in the district the 62-year-old has represented for the past eight years. Added Roper, "He probably shouldn't have said it in that context."

Wilson's shout came after Obama said extending health care to all Americans who seek it would not mean insuring illegal immigrants.

The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care. Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, but wouldn't get tax subsidies to help them. Still, Republicans say there aren't sufficient citizenship verification requirements to ensure illegal immigrants are excluded.

In Wilson's district, many voters said the heckle wouldn't affect their support for him. Some said they wished more politicians would speak their minds — but most said they wished it hadn't happened.

"Joe was very immature. He's always been pretty under control. I'm a little embarrassed," said Roy Smith, a business manager who spoke as he ate breakfast in Cayce. "I voted for Joe and probably still will."

Wilson's eldest son, Alan — who is running for state attorney general — agreed Thursday that his father chose the wrong place to vent, but said the heckle shows that "what the president said really struck a chord."

"I think everyone understands that he was basically voicing the frustration of the American people," Alan Wilson told CBS's "The Early Show" on Friday.

Wilson apologizes, but says won't be muzzled - Health care reform- msnbc.com



 
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