Death by Taser

jiro123 said:
and stress management too. and a small reform in legal system such as legalizing marijuana, etc that will cut some slacks for cops.
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**nodding agreement**
 
jiro123 said:
and stress management too. and a small reform in legal system such as legalizing marijuana, etc that will cut some slacks for cops.
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I second, too!

So are the domestic violences that needed to reduce as well... tooo common for the cops to handle those such craps (only "light" cases)! :roll: lol
 
web730 said:
I second, too!

So are the domestic violences that needed to reduce as well... tooo common for the cops to handle those such craps (only "light" cases)! :roll: lol
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It has been my experience that the cops, at least in my area, are very inefficient at handling doemstic violence cases. They have very little understanding of what their obligations to a Temporary Protection Order, or a Civil Protection Order is.
 
jillio said:
It has been my experience that the cops, at least in my area, are very inefficient at handling doemstic violence cases. They have very little understanding of what their obligations to a Temporary Protection Order, or a Civil Protection Order is.
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Oh really! hmm interesting

Only can imagine how they dislike dealing with those situations... too personal for them to intervene. lol
 
web730 said:
Oh really! hmm interesting

Only can imagine how they dislike dealing with those situations... too personal for them to intervene. lol
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Yeah, those situations can get sticky. However, when one partner has a TPO or a CPO, then the police are bound to enforce it. Unfortunately, they don't always. We had a case about a year ago where the woman had a CPO against her partner, he showed up at her residence and she called police. They did not respond. By the time that several people had called them, and they decided to show up, he had broken in to the aprt., taken her and her 1 year old daughter hostage, holding them at gunpoint for several hours. In the end, he shot the woman, putting her in the hospital for several weeks, and nearly killing her. He shot himself, killing himself, in a standoff with police.

All of it could have been avoided had the police taken the CPO seriously and responded immediately.
 
jillio said:
Yeah, those situations can get sticky. However, when one partner has a TPO or a CPO, then the police are bound to enforce it. Unfortunately, they don't always. We had a case about a year ago where the woman had a CPO against her partner, he showed up at her residence and she called police. They did not respond. By the time that several people had called them, and they decided to show up, he had broken in to the aprt., taken her and her 1 year old daughter hostage, holding them at gunpoint for several hours. In the end, he shot the woman, putting her in the hospital for several weeks, and nearly killing her. He shot himself, killing himself, in a standoff with police.

All of it could have been avoided had the police taken the CPO seriously and responded immediately.
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:-o What's TPO or CPO?
 
jillio said:
It has been my experience that the cops, at least in my area, are very inefficient at handling doemstic violence cases. They have very little understanding of what their obligations to a Temporary Protection Order, or a Civil Protection Order is.
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How about fraudulent calls in which a freshly showered Deaf man, trying to get his hearing aids on the dining room table, was tasered.

There are task forces created by police departments to expose officers to a wide range of cultural and social sensitivities. They don't seem to help. Seems like these task forces are "appease the outrage but don't change."
 
Wokamuka said:
How about fraudulent calls in which a freshly showered Deaf man, trying to get his hearing aids on the dining room table, was tasered.

There are task forces created by police departments to expose officers to a wide range of cultural and social sensitivities. They don't seem to help. Seems like these task forces are "appease the outrage but don't change."
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Sad, isn't it?
 
Wokamuka said:
How about fraudulent calls in which a freshly showered Deaf man, trying to get his hearing aids on the dining room table, was tasered.

There are task forces created by police departments to expose officers to a wide range of cultural and social sensitivities. They don't seem to help. Seems like these task forces are "appease the outrage but don't change."
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Yes I remember. :(

I have another link: Police officer beats deaf man up... original pictures including.
http://www.alldeaf.com/current-even...-police-when-pulling-over-local-deaf-man.html
 
jillio said:
Sad, isn't it?
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Not so sad as the inability, unlike the olden days, to assemble an angry mob in front of the officer's house and demand that he be tarred and feathered. No vengeance desired, just wanting justice (equal opportunity to return the favor).
 
Wokamuka said:
Not so sad as the inability, unlike the olden days, to assemble an angry mob in front of the officer's house and demand that he be tarred and feathered. No vengeance desired, just wanting justice (equal opportunity to return the favor).
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I have oft complained about the unwillingness of others to speak out against that which does not directly affect them. Our social apathy is frightening!
 
jillio said:
I have oft complained about the unwillingness of others to speak out against that which does not directly affect them. Our social apathy is frightening!
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I think the greater fear is that, in pointing out faults of others, the pointer becomes vulnerable to others pointing out his/her own. It is sad. Very sad. I know of two professionals in Missouri who are, personally, striving to improve their state's Deaf Mental Health services (along with Barry Critchfield, whose niche is within). Unfortunately, they're battling against politics, an industry that cares on whim, and, ultimately, demographics.

"Picture this: Missouri - a big <empty> box. Civilization on one side and the other. Everything in the middle: farmers, rural communities, and those who consider Saint Louis a HUGE city . . . and where all the problems are."

How can you argue with the Republican majority the human needs of a few?

I am not a Missouri native. I have family there. It's sad to see a Red state being so heartless compared to my Blue homestate. (Yes, I'm pointing my finger at Missouri's Republican governor.)
 
Wokamuka said:
I think the greater fear is that, in pointing out faults of others, the pointer becomes vulnerable to others pointing out his/her own. It is sad. Very sad. I know of two professionals in Missouri who are, personally, striving to improve their state's Deaf Mental Health services (along with Barry Critchfield, whose niche is within). Unfortunately, they're battling against politics, an industry that cares on whim, and, ultimately, demographics.

"Picture this: Missouri - a big <empty> box. Civilization on one side and the other. Everything in the middle: farmers, rural communities, and those who consider Saint Louis a HUGE city . . . and where all the problems are."

How can you argue with the Republican majority the human needs of a few?

I am not a Missouri native. I have family there. It's sad to see a Red state being so heartless compared to my Blue homestate. (Yes, I'm pointing my finger at Missouri's Republican governor.)
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I understand exactly what you are saying, and you get no argument from me.
 
Here's an update on the original article:


(CNN) -- A Louisiana grand jury indicted a former police officer on a manslaughter charge in the death of a man who was Tasered nine times while handcuffed, prosecutors said Wednesday.


Baron Pikes, 21, was Tasered nine times by a police officer in January in Winnfield, Louisiana.

Scott Nugent also was charged with felony criminal malfeasance in connection with the January death of Baron "Scooter" Pikes.

Pikes, a 21-year-old sawmill worker, tried to run from Winnfield police, who wanted to arrest him on a warrant charging him with cocaine possession.

A coroner's report found that Pikes was handcuffed and on the ground when first stunned with a Taser and might have been dead before the last two 50,000-volt shocks were delivered.

Nugent, who authorities said was the arresting officer, was suspended and ultimately fired in May.

If convicted, Nugent could get up to 40 years for the manslaughter charge and five years for the criminal malfeasance charge, Winn Parish District Attorney R. Chris Nevils said.

"It is our intention to show at trial that Mr. Nugent caused the death of Baron Pikes by Tasing him multiple times, unnecessarily and in violation of Louisiana law, and by failing to get him medical attention when it was apparent he needed it," Nevils said.

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The indictment stems from a state police investigation into the death, which ended in late July.

Nugent's attorney, Phillip Terrell, could not be immediately reached for comment Wednesday evening. He said earlier that his client had followed proper police procedure.

A copy of the Winnfield Police Department's Taser training manual, obtained by CNN, says the device "shall only be deployed in circumstances where it is deemed reasonably necessary to control a dangerous or violent subject."


Nugent is white; Pikes was black. Pikes' death led to demonstrations that drew several dozen people in Winnfield, Louisiana, a town of 15,000, roughly half of whom are black.

Police said Pikes told officers he suffered from asthma and had been using PCP and crack cocaine. But Dr. Randolph Williams, the Winn Parish medical examiner, said he found no sign of drug use in the autopsy and no record of asthma in Pikes' medical history.


Officer charged in death of Tasered man - CNN.com
 
yea!! I read that a while ago :applause: This should send a chilling message to all police officers about the use of taser and arrest procedure.
 
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