Deaf Adoption: A Rhetorician's New Family

jag said:
Impressive. Like I said I couldn't do that for the past ?? how many years. Or perhaps I should say I chose not to do so since it was to aggravating trying to understand the person on the other end. Was much easier to just let the machine do the work, even after the state gave me the most powerful amplyfied phone they had.
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A bigger problem for him was even hearingthe phone ring. Had to have a visual aid for that.
 
kokonut said:
There's cued speech. There's hearing aid. There's CART. I don't see a child with mild hearing loss losing out the full access (with hearing aid) compared to a child with much more severe hearing loss.

Are you profoundly deaf?
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What about incidental access in social environments?
 
kokonut said:
He can email me at: mmcconnell2004(at)hotmail.com
And we can exchange cell phone numbers.

What's his dB loss?
Is it sensorineural or another kind of hearing loss type?
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Sensorineural, bilateral, congenital exposure to CMV. dB varies over frequency, but overall he sets at 90dB on the left side, and 120dB onthe right. But the frequency variations are typical of CMV exposure, as they have been seen in the past with Rubella exposure as well.
 
kokonut said:
He can email me at: mmcconnell2004(at)hotmail.com
And we can exchange cell phone numbers.

What's his dB loss?
Is it sensorineural or another kind of hearing loss type?
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I'll let him know. He will be home for the weekend next week, and I will allow him to read the various posts, and make his own decision.

Oh, and I have a student who has a CI, uses a sign interpreter in class, communicates expressively in sign, and prefers it for receptive,a s well, who has been profoundly deaf since birth. I have personally spoken to him on his cell phone. He is able to use his cell phone, but he is still unable to get all of the classroom information he needs simplythrough oral/aural presentation. I'll see if he would be willing to respond as well.
 
kokonut said:
Everyday normal conversations is what I'm looking for. Not shouting into the phone hoping one would understand some of the spoken words.
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And you are assumingt hat shouting wa a technique employed. Actually, shouting at someone over the phone decreases their ability to discriminate, it does not enhance it.
 
kokonut said:
I don't even remember even trying to concentrate. I just listen. Also, I strategically place myself in the front, left corner section of the classroom seats. Since my hearing aid is on my right ear, I can hear people ask questions and so forth behind me. In fact, I hear and understand better when people sit to the right of me and up to several seats behind me whenever they talk.
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And you are very fortunate. But your good fortune does not automatically apply to the general population of deaf, as my son's ability to take messages on a telephone, or shel's ability to block out background noise in order to hear the drive through operator. Our concern is for those children.
 
R2D2 said:
Very impressive! I could never do that with hearing aids and with a similar hearing loss to your son, although I can now with my CI. I think even hearing people now almost prefer to text each other.
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LOL, I think you're right. And I didn't say iot was easy for him, but that it can do it when necessary.
 
jag said:
When I went through the drive up per CI I to had to concentrate really hard, alot of times I'd have my kids order and listen. :) Now I have fewer problems and actually use the drive up more. We're all different Shel, I like to communicate using my voice and you like to use ASL. That's fine. But there are those of us who do (or did) have to concentrate really hard to get stuff in school and going through the drive up. I do know how exhausting watching people talk can be. I also know how embarrrassing it is when you 'misread' the person speaking. Usually when they repeated to me my order I'd just agree with them. :)

Personally I don't think I've ever said that a child who is deaf should not have sign as part of their communication options.
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I don't recall your having said that either, jag.
 
jillio said:
What about incidental access in social environments?
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I see them as having little or no problems in dealing with social access compared those with greater and greater hearing loss. I never really had any problems in school social-wise (e.g. sports, acting, marching band, dances, girlfriend etc.) and made a lot of friends. Of course, each individual is different on how they handle socially.
 
jillio said:
And you are assumingt hat shouting wa a technique employed. Actually, shouting at someone over the phone decreases their ability to discriminate, it does not enhance it.
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i.e. speaking up.
 
jillio said:
And you are very fortunate. But your good fortune does not automatically apply to the general population of deaf, as my son's ability to take messages on a telephone, or shel's ability to block out background noise in order to hear the drive through operator. Our concern is for those children.
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Note the personal pronoun I used such as the word "I" in reference to my own experience and how I deal on using my hearing in classroom settings and not about other people.
 
kokonut said:
I see them as having little or no problems in dealing with social access compared those with greater and greater hearing loss. I never really had any problems in school social-wise (e.g. sports, acting, marching band, dances, girlfriend etc.) and made a lot of friends. Of course, each individual is different on how they handle socially.
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If we are talking about those with mild/mod hearing problems in a school setting I think I can say that I did ok. I will say that in my and my daughters case we do not have the 'normal' hearing loss but the reverse slope. That 'may' have helped us get by in school and just everyday life as we did. Since most teachers are women we had the higher tones to actually get 'most' of what they said. I started to use HA's in 8th grade and was diagnosed with a sens/neural loss. Probably in the moderate range My daughter (the 23 yo) was diagnosed in 4th grade and she adapted much better to HA's then I did. She was probably in the mod range then to. We both participated fully in our schools activities and such that interested us. She participated also in 4-h and showed her goats at fairs with her friend. one can participate very well if one is outgoing enough I think.
 
jag said:
If we are talking about those with mild/mod hearing problems in a school setting I think I can say that I did ok. I will say that in my and my daughters case we do not have the 'normal' hearing loss but the reverse slope. That 'may' have helped us get by in school and just everyday life as we did. Since most teachers are women we had the higher tones to actually get 'most' of what they said. I started to use HA's in 8th grade and was diagnosed with a sens/neural loss. Probably in the moderate range My daughter (the 23 yo) was diagnosed in 4th grade and she adapted much better to HA's then I did. She was probably in the mod range then to. We both participated fully in our schools activities and such that interested us. She participated also in 4-h and showed her goats at fairs with her friend. one can participate very well if one is outgoing enough I think.
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Slope position is important, especially in the speech range (500 to 3000 Hz) when decibels are concerned.
 
jillio said:
Sensorineural, bilateral, congenital exposure to CMV. dB varies over frequency, but overall he sets at 90dB on the left side, and 120dB onthe right. But the frequency variations are typical of CMV exposure, as they have been seen in the past with Rubella exposure as well.
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Thanks. And his speech discrimination score?
 
kokonut said:
Note the personal pronoun I used such as the word "I" in reference to my own experience and how I deal on using my hearing in classroom settings and not about other people.
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And the implied message is that if you can succeed with these accommodations alone, that others with similar hearing loss as yours should be able to do likewise.
 
jag said:
If we are talking about those with mild/mod hearing problems in a school setting I think I can say that I did ok. I will say that in my and my daughters case we do not have the 'normal' hearing loss but the reverse slope. That 'may' have helped us get by in school and just everyday life as we did. Since most teachers are women we had the higher tones to actually get 'most' of what they said. I started to use HA's in 8th grade and was diagnosed with a sens/neural loss. Probably in the moderate range My daughter (the 23 yo) was diagnosed in 4th grade and she adapted much better to HA's then I did. She was probably in the mod range then to. We both participated fully in our schools activities and such that interested us. She participated also in 4-h and showed her goats at fairs with her friend. one can participate very well if one is outgoing enough I think.
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O don't remember ever reading this, but were you and your daughter both postlingually deafened? You may have already calrified that, but I simply don't remember.
 
jillio said:
And the implied message is that if you can succeed with these accommodations alone, that others with similar hearing loss as yours should be able to do likewise.
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I was responding to Shel by describing what works for me and not what works for the general population of the deaf. Yes, there are people similar to mine that does well using the similar methods I use in classroom settings. It is by no mean an automatic application to the general population of deaf.




Jillio:
But your good fortune does not automatically apply to the general population of deaf, as my son's ability to take messages on a telephone, or shel's ability to block out background noise in order to hear the drive through operator.
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