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Court Says Law Allows Man's Crude Act - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando


Court Says Law Allows Man's Crude Act
Legal Loophole Applies To Certain Sex Toy Use In Public

POSTED: Wednesday, July 7, 2010
UPDATED: 2:23 pm EDT July 7, 2010



Brooksville Police Dept.
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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- A Florida appellate court has ruled it is perfectly legal for a man to sit in his pickup truck outside a convenience store in the presence of a child and wave and insert into his mouth a long, cylindrical plastic sex toy commonly referred to as a dildo.

That’s what David Lowe was doing in December 2008 outside the Shop N Save on Ponce De Leon Boulevard in Brooksville, according to police records.

And it’s what got Lowe, 47, arrested on charges of lewd or lascivious exhibition.

That makes it a felony to, in the presence of someone under 16, commit a “sexual act ... involving the simulation of any act involving sexual activity.”

The 5th District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach ruled last week, however, that what Lowe was doing did not involve simulated "sexual activity." But Brooksville police sure thought it did.

They were called after witnesses said Lowe was sitting in his truck around 5:40 p.m. on Dec. 28, 2008, waving the plastic, skin-colored device at women emerging from the convenience store and then placing it in his mouth.

The mother of a 7-year-old girl who watched from an adjacent parking space called police after she and her daughter witnessed the behavior and the child asked her what the man was doing.

According to the reports, police stopped Lowe in his truck as he tried to leave the convenience store, and he denied having the sex toy. The officer noted Lowe smelled of alcohol and was wearing sweatpants that were wet and evincing an erection. A search of the truck turned up an open Busch beer can and a lubricated dildo within reach.

After posting a $5,000 bond, Lowe retained attorney Kirk Campbell, who apparently read very closely the statute Lowe was accused of violating and found the behavior is not a crime in Florida.

Hernando County Circuit Judge Jack Springstead disagreed, though, and denied Lowe’s motion to dismiss in July 2009.

So Lowe pleaded no contest to the charge, reserving his rights to appeal the denial of his motion to dismiss. The judge sentenced him to the one day he already served in jail before posting bond, withheld adjudication of guilt and ordered two years of probation, which included alcohol abuse treatment.

But last week, the 5th District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach found Lowe’s motion to dismiss should have been granted and it remanded the case to Hernando County with orders the case be discharged.

The reason: What Lowe was simulating was not “sexual activity,” as defined by Florida law.

That law says sexual activity is “the oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object.”

The court found Lowe “did not simulate the act of oral sex with the sexual organ of 'another.' The dildo was not near 'another' person’s genitalia … it was apparent he was simulating oral sex with an object. His actions, though clearly rude and offensive, do not violate the express terms of the statute.”
 
The 5th District Court of Appeal in Daytona Beach ruled last week, however, that what Lowe was doing did not involve simulated "sexual activity." But Brooksville police sure thought it did.

No? Then he was doing it for the hell of it like chewing gum? Uhhh..yea right!
 
Sick SOB!....Good thing I didn't see him, I would have slapped him silly, and stuck the darn thing up his azz.....
 
Disgusting. :mad:
 
what does homosexuality have to do with someone who is perverted?

I think Naisho was referencing the fact that the man was simulating oral sex with another man, which is, well, homosexuality. Is it not?
 
It's not for sure, but when I read it I got the feeling from reading that he is one of those anti-gay people, but when drunk you can see he is actually gay and perverted at the same time. It takes a certain kind of person buy the thing he bought in the first place.
(Note that I have nothing against gays, I am saying the behavior of this man in general)
 
yes, but, if you read he was doing it front of children not men
 
yeah, it's kind of how I saw it. he's doing it in front of women at the store (the one who had the kid was probably what got him busted) maybe because he wanted to show off to them or get their attention because he thinks he likes women. But then, his actions are saying otherwise.
 
don't eat a popsicle, it could be considered gay since it's kinda phallic. a dildo is an inanimate object. he was getting off doing what he was doing to women and children, not to dudes. obviously his sexual interests are not of the vanilla variety since he's a perverted predator.

but hey, if putting a dildo in your mouth and getting off to doing it to women and children make you a homosexual man, then i really have no idea what 2 men in a relationship are...
 
hey, he's just trying to teach kids how to have a BJ. that's all. *sarcasm*
 
but hey, if putting a dildo in your mouth and getting off to doing it to women and children make you a homosexual man, then i really have no idea what 2 men in a relationship are...

for lack of better term, I think it's just better to identify him as closet-perverted-gay-who-doesn't-realize-he's-gay.

perverted actions of boys during elementary school towards girls is the first thought I had about this dude..
 
for lack of better term, I think it's just better to identify him as closet-perverted-gay-who-doesn't-realize-he's-gay.

perverted actions of boys during elementary school towards girls is the first thought I had about this dude..

I guess you are well versed in labeling sexual orientations. Which, by the way, really doesn't fly with most people who aren't straight or most at all.

By your logic, all the boys in elementary school who did perverted actions to girls are gay or closeted gay?
 
... :|
What is the deal with getting feathers in a ruffle?

What is up with people these days. Seriously. No one is attacking gays in this topic. Perhaps the joke about this guy liking one up the butt may had gone too far, but in complete honesty all deviant reference has been on the target which is the man himself, not the gay community. As in, David Lowe. period. No one else, not even the slightest. If I had a problem with gays, I would not have even posted this topic.

In my four years of posting here I have yet to ever harbor any malicious or ill-will intent towards homosexuality. I doubt even once. So I don't understand what is it exactly you are trying to imply, or start up the crapstorm about. There definitely seems to be some sort of misinterpretation upon reading between the lines. I have never once stated I am well versed in sexual orientations and had prefixed the opinionated sentence with the reference "I think", which is honestly just a friggin' opinion unless even opinions are unwarranted at this point.

The logic was, males exhibit strange behavior towards females in their youth as often as a part of exploring their sexuality or the depths of their personality. Which is what some of us have came to understand as we mature from our childhood.

This person is acting in ways that is observed as childish, depicting an immature neurological growth to the least interpretation.
It has literally zero relevance with being gay, private, or closeted gay. Thanks for trying to twist the words to make it look like something I didn't say, but in all honesty I am clearing it up right now as you have thought I came off as semantically inappropriate in the reference of homosexuality.

One last time in case it is still misinterpreted. It's about David Lowe, not the gays. Please try get it right if you think I deserve a bash up.
 
Ok, we are having a discussion, not a big deal. Yes, you are entitled to your opinions. All I was doing was trying to understand how you arrived to it.

In no way did I say anything about you gay bashing or implied it.

All I was getting was that if you felt that you could say you think he should be labeled a certain orientation, in a way you are implying you are versed in doing so. You feel he doesn't realize that he is gay, so how do you draw that conclusion?

All I'm trying to discuss and figure out is why has there been conclusions that he's gay or closeted gay simply because of an inanimate phallic object he put in his mouth. Naisho, if you reread your posts you have said multiple times that he's either not realized gay, gay, or his behaviour is that of a gay man. What he did was crude and disgusting yes, but gay? Not quite. If he was drunk and trying to explorer his repressed gayness, I'm sure he'd probably be at a gay bar or something else of that effect.

End of the day what he did doesn't really give much insight to what his orientation is, but rather he is simply a troubled perverted deviant.
 
There we go. I see what you are getting at now. I never said his actions were gay.
I said, while he acted as drunk ... little did he realize he is gay.

See what I am referring to now?

While being normally straight, but different while drunk that shows a reference he may actually be gay is the point I am getting at.

Note that I assumed this man was initially straight, for the record.

And by the way, my bad on my side. I had thought you were getting defensive over the terminology being used and assumed you had taken the direction I spoke of previously.
 
I don't care what the creep's sexual orientation is. He's nasty and gross with his public display in front of children. Ugh!
 
I don't care what the creep's sexual orientation is. He's nasty and gross with his public display in front of children. Ugh!

Yep.. the real problem is the florida law. I am surprised it allows for this, but then again it looks like they got caught with the bases unmonitored?
 
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