Court allows "show me your papers" laws in Alabama, Georgia

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Jiro said:
why would you be answering it after he already answered the question? and your answer is not even close to his answer.

pretty dang silly...
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You asked me a question, I answered it.
 
Jiro said:
Clearly.... it's a case of racial profiling based on stereotype and skin color such as "if you see a group of Mexican guys waiting at a certain corner, they must be illegal immigrants."
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Depends, he said he lived among them. Perhaps he has spoken with them. You are making a pretty big assumption there. After all, he did say "to Knowthem and to recognize them".
 
TXgolfer said:
Depends, he said he lived among them. Perhaps he has spoken with them. You are making a pretty big assumption there. After all, he did say "to Knowthem and to recognize them".
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and you are making a big assumption.

bottom line - we cannot assume nor presume to assume. that's why Supreme Court struck it down and stated that cop can ask for paper AFTER arrest.
 
Jiro said:
and you are making a big assumption.

bottom line - we cannot assume nor presume to assume. that's why Supreme Court struck it down and stated that cop can ask for paper AFTER arrest.
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I am not making any assumption.
 
Jiro said:
that didn't really answer my question.
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Certainly I did. You asked how rolling would know. Since rolling was giving a vague scenario rather than discussing an actual occurrence I named some ways that a person might know.
 
rolling7 said:
You ask a question not related to this thread and I answered it.
Quit being a bully.
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how exactly is my question not related to this thread?

and just because you answered something doesn't mean it's actually an answer.
 
TXgolfer said:
I am not making any assumption.
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yes you are. you are assuming that maybe somebody confided in him. maybe he knew them long enough to know they're illegals. maybe this. maybe that.

that's a lot of maybes... hence you are making assumptions.

again - I reiterate.... this is exactly why Supreme Court struck down Arizona's and Alabama's immigration laws.
 
TXgolfer said:
Certainly I did. You asked how rolling would know. Since rolling was giving a vague scenario rather than discussing an actual occurrence I named some ways that a person might know.
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I think it's probably best if rolling answers it for himself.... You've made quite a bit of mess in here that I'm beginning to think you're related to Todd Akin or something :lol:
 
Jiro said:
yes you are. you are assuming that maybe somebody confided in him. maybe he knew them long enough to know they're illegals. maybe this. maybe that.

that's a lot of maybes... hence you are making assumptions.
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A) Rolling said,

If I report a family of illegals sending their kid to public school, the cops can't ask for papers/ID, not can the school....by order of the COURT.
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The "if" makes this statement a hypothetical scenario. Therefore, there is no assumption to be made.

B) If rolling was relating an actually story, this would still not be an assumption. It is a list of possibilities. An assumption would be to say, "I believe this______ happened" or something similar. However, I said...

Maybe (since this is a hypothetical) the HOA did a background check and Rolling was on the board. Maybe he applied to work for rolling....
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Which is clearly not an assumption. Maybe is not an assumption.
 
Jiro said:
I think it's probably best if rolling answers it for himself.... You've made quite a bit of mess in here that I'm beginning to think you're related to Todd Akin or something :lol:
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I am not answering for rolling. You asked me a question.
 
TXgolfer said:
I am not answering for rolling. You asked me a question.
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and he already answered it before you quibble on which you should have just let it ended right there.
 
Jiro said:
ah... this incessant Akin-like quibbling....
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I call it clarification. I am merely answering your questions and defending against your accusations. If you see this as quibbling perhaps you should stop making accusations against members.
 
Jiro said:
and he already answered it before you quibble on which you should have just let it ended right there.
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You asked ME a question based on my post. Surely I am entitled to answer for myself.
 
TXgolfer said:
I call it clarification. I am merely answering your questions and defending against your accusations. If you see this as quibbling perhaps you should stop making accusations against members.
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clarification? more like obfuscation and disambiguation.
 
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