**Cough*...REBA...*Cough**

[XBGMER]

I agree that "Christians" who live a bad testimony probably do more damage to the cause of Christ than the Devil himself.
Your friend is very wrong to say that it's OK for a Christian to abuse drugs. It is NOT OK. He is wrong to abuse drugs, and he is even more wrong to lead other people astray by saying that it's OK.

If you don't want to be a Christian that's your choice. I just want you to understand one point. No one can be forced to accept Christ--but also, no one can be forced to reject Christ. Whether you accept Christ or reject Christ, that is your decision. No one forced that decision on you.

You don't have to agree with my some comments about my friend or pastor.. Anyway, You shouldn't blame the person who said that it is okay for a Christian use the drugs.

You should know God allowed many wolves leaped into white clothes sheeps among the natural sheeps on beautful green pasture like eden place. natural sheeps have make their choice between follow the wovle sheep who would be mislead or stay in eden with own sheep family where it safe place..

I know there gays and lesbians are angry with what my fact comments I made..Like as You look homosexuals, more and more homosexual people joined christians after they modfy themselves into christian beings. However they refuse to quit for being homosexual.. they make announce the straight christians, it s okay for christian who have sex with homosexuals.

Modern day is beautful matched within Jesus's fulfilled by scripture of Luke 21 chaper, 8 verse of quote: And he said, Take Heed that ye be not deceive: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

If you had really been a Christian before, you would still be one now. Remember:

Romans 8
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Jesus said:

John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I knew that.. I don't think so I am lost nor confuse if I am still christian.. I strongly believe that I STILL am He. I am remain that I am!

Your friend and pastor were wrong influences; I'm not excusing them. But you are still responsible for your own decisions.

Again, you should not blame them what they done to me in their life they pleased.. like Jesus was fulfilled by Matthew 5:44

 

[Maria]

For your information, you are not Jesus Christ. You are NOT as HE as you mentioned.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

For your information, you are not Jesus Christ. You are NOT as HE as you mentioned.

Right! Romans 2:1-7 KJV Bible said,

1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

 

[EagleCherokee63]

I know there gays and lesbians are angry with what my fact comments I made..Like as You look homosexuals, more and more homosexual people joined christians after they modfy themselves into christian beings. However they refuse to quit for being homosexual.. they make announce the straight christians, it s okay for christian who have sex with homosexuals.

Because They won't willing change serve the Lord. If they want to willing serve Lord. Lord can helping them change new life way. They rebuked against Lord what if they stubborn and stilling gays and lesbians. It choose serve devil or serve Jesus Christ?

Matthews 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Jesus is way, truth and life!!!!

Jesus Christ didn't force you way! YOUR CHOOSE one

If Christian who have sex with homosexuals then they not obey God. They are missing KJV Bible said here Galatians 5: 17-25.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Fruit of the Spirits number 9. (love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance)

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

For your information, you are not Jesus Christ. You are NOT as HE as you mentioned.

I'm sure that XBGMER didn't say that he is a Jesus Christ but himself. He beleive what he is which mean that he work hard to take care of his family, healthy & learns/collect his own experience to find what right or wrong and going on...etc. That's what XBGMER is talking about.

Please correct if I misunderstand you or not, XBGMER.

Yes, I beleive what I am - what I doing to cope my own life instead of worship the bible and do what the bible says.

Reba's post
But you are still responsible for your own decisions.

Exactly, that's what everyone doing to cope their own life and decide themselves what they doing in right way. I'm one of them.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Right! Romans 2:1-7 KJV Bible said,

Who is the author of this bible?

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Who is the author of this bible?

King James Version

 

[Liebling:-)))]

King James Version

Thank you.

 

[EagleCherokee63]

Thank you.

Smile welcome!

 

[Reba]

You don't have to agree with my some comments about my friend or pastor.. Anyway, You shouldn't blame the person who said that it is okay for a Christian use the drugs.

I know that I don't "have to" agree with your comments. But when you're right, you're right, and I wanted to say so.

I don't "blame" the new, weak Christian if he/she is taught wrong by the pastor. I do "blame" pastors who teach the wrong things and lead their flock astray. Pastors have a HUGE responsibility to lead their people in the truth.

You should know God allowed many wolves leaped into white clothes sheeps among the natural sheeps on beautful green pasture like eden place. natural sheeps have make their choice between follow the wovle sheep who would be mislead or stay in eden with own sheep family where it safe place...

People always need to be careful to focus on the truth of the Bible and Jesus, and NOT focus on man for truth. Man (people) can lie and mislead.

... more and more homosexual people joined christians after they modfy themselves into christian beings. However they refuse to quit for being homosexual.. they make announce the straight christians, it s okay for christian who have sex with homosexuals.

The first problem is that people (straight or homosexual) think that they can "modify" themselves into Christions. That's a false belief.

The second problem is that liberal churches are teaching that homosexual sex is acceptable.

Modern day is beautful matched within Jesus's fulfilled by scripture of Luke 21 chaper, 8 verse of quote: And he said, Take Heed that ye be not deceive: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Yes, Christians need to be careful, always.

Again, you should not blame them what they done to me in their life they pleased.. like Jesus was fulfilled by Matthew 5:44

You are correct that we are each responsible for our own life decisions.

However, the Bible does say that Christians are responsible for how they influence other people, and must be careful not to lead other people the wrong way.

I Corinthians 8
9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. 10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

we are each responsible for our own life decisions.

Exactly, that's what I tried to tell you in some threads.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Oooops double post

 

[EagleCherokee63]

XBGMER

I not like that ** Cough*... REBA...* Cough*** ah?!?!?

Reba,

Does you feeling bother or feeling upset? I wondered. I think It very silly!

 

[indie]

I knew that.. I don't think so I am lost nor confuse if I am still christian.. I strongly believe that I STILL am He. I am remain that I am!

What do you mean by You are He. I don't get it

 

[Reba]

XBGMER

I not like that ** Cough*... REBA...* Cough*** ah?!?!?

Reba,

Does you feeling bother or feeling upset? I wondered. I think It very silly!

Nah, it doesn't bother me; I'm a big girl. :P

But XBGMER really should get something for that cough.
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[EagleCherokee63]

Nah, it doesn't bother me; I'm a big girl. :P

But XBGMER really should get something for that cough.
Ricola USA - Products - Cough Drops

LOL! Praise the Lord! You are brave lady!!!

 

[Awauphi]

lol reba.. good line! hehe

 

[Throwstones]

AMEN!

Right! Romans 2:1-7 KJV Bible said,

1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

 

[EagleCherokee63]

XBGMER,

I was thinking about all day myself that God show me something with His vision. For an example, when a Shepherd (Jesus Christ himself) when he was watching the white sheep out in the field. When a wolf show up among with white sheep and Jesus would have a wolf to get out of the sheep area. The reason Jesus keep the bad wolves away from the sheep because to keep from giving a bad influence among with the sheep.

Another example, you said it is ok for drugs, gay, lesbian or other sinful nature into church or Christian's group. Then it is pastor responsibility to approached the person in private to make their correction in their wrong lifestyle and if the person refused to live with God's example for several times then it is the pastor decision and church group to ask that person to leave from the church in order to keep the example with God's way. If the person open up their heart and repent away from sins then it will understand about God's will. Some person are weak, medium or strong will to make their life change.

My former husband was a deacon in the church. He was eliminated immediately because he was also involved with a drugs. He is still on drugs because that was his weakness as a Christian.

 

[XBGMER]

I'm sure that XBGMER didn't say that he is a Jesus Christ but himself. He beleive what he is which mean that he work hard to take care of his family, healthy & learns/collect his own experience to find what right or wrong and going on...etc. That's what XBGMER is talking about.

Please correct if I misunderstand you or not, XBGMER.

Sweet friend of AD: Liebling, Wow you already read my mind.. Therefore you are correct what the post you comments of me..

Of course I collect various experinces from this life.. I am still learning what right or wrong in my life till death apart me from life of peace.

Many thanks for comfort words in your post really touched my heart!

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I do "blame" pastors who teach the wrong things and lead their flock astray. Pastors have a HUGE responsibility to lead their people in the truth.

Yes I agree with you , Pastors who have a tons of responsibility to teach their people how to respect and truth.

You know what? Pastor was resigned from church before deaf church was broken down after I quitted and left. deaf christians scattered different churches now.. Pastor who put me down when I really hungried more about God's words. pastor told me, just simple that come here sunday and wednesday.. Pastor made me pissed off bigtime.. Because I want to learning about God's word feed my spiritual mind as words really comfort my emotions and thoughts..

The first problem is that people (straight or homosexual) think that they can "modify" themselves into Christions. That's a false belief.

The second problem is that liberal churches are teaching that homosexual sex is acceptable.

Exactly, They acts like in 2 thessalonians 2 chapter, 5 thru 12 verses. because they did not read the scripture of what 2 peter 2 chapter or 2 Tim 3 chapter

You are correct that we are each responsible for our own life decisions.

About time that you understand my own decisions make this life whatever the belief I made..

For explain, I am so realized that my twelve years old son, He really interested in evoluation stuffs like dino, etc from science.. I don't want to be argue with my son between evoluation and Jesus christ.. I respect his way who he is.. But I love to learning the edcuation what he really interesting in evoluation. someday he will teach me about evolve from earth, whatever..

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For your information, you are not Jesus Christ. You are NOT as HE as you mentioned.

My point is Judas, he was told Jesus's disciples, I am He.. Jesus knew him would " I am He" as exactly what did Jesus told them, I am He.. tell me why Jesus told his brother Judas, saying, "why not you doing right to your disciples
because you know you are He,".. disciples didn't understand what they talked themselves in face to face about it.. Therefore Jesus knew Judas knew this..

Jesus said, I am He, and Judas who was betrayed Him, saying I am He..

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I knew that.. I don't think so I am lost nor confuse if I am still christian.. I strongly believe that I STILL am He. I am remain that I am!

What do you mean by You are He. I don't get it

You don't understand why I said " I am He"?

hard to example, but i try my best to answer your question..

He which is Him [Flesh and Blood is from God], the Man of God, Master, Son of Man, and Jesus Christ... ALL OF THE UNIQUE ONE IS IN HE. He is me, no else. Therefore I am HE since Jesus, all prophets always said " I AM HE"..Now you get understand my explains, don't you?





1 Tim 3v 16: [THE WORD OF] GOD WAS MANIFEST IN MY FLESH, THERE IS NO ELSE BESIDE ME! NOW YOU SEE ME IS THE SON OF GOD LIKE HE WAS!