Combs to Pay $21,000 a Month Child Support

[Angel]

No, He cannot adopts someone else's children unless the non-custodial parent (Father) gives up his rights. Even if she remarried, The step-father is not their father and it's not his responsibility to support the children. If he wants to support the children He can but, he is not required to. My sister would know more about remarried and if the non-custodial father would still pay child support if the mother is remarried. Because she is divorce herself.

You are correct Cheri....

Once a mother gets remarried with another man, the man can not adopt her children unless their father give up his rights if the step father wants to adopt her children then he would have to go thru the court system to do so or unless he can prove the court that the father is unfit...


And yes, if the mother remarried again, the father will still have to pay child support no matter what!

 

[Angel]

My neighbour just had a 2nd baby, her husband left her for another woman, and she was alone bring up 2 children until she met a new man and they got engaged to be married. His job transfer him to Perth, West Australia, and her ex-husband object to this offer knowing his visiting access right will be difficult because of the huge distances between here Melbourne to Perth, he took her to child custody court to stop it, but she won and took their two children with her to Perth to start a new life with her fiance!!

Perth is 3 hour plane trip from here same as from NY to California!! I am surprised they allow her to move interstate, as I feel sorry for her ex's as it will cost him a fortune if he want to see his children, plane trip etc. I question why and was told job is more important than claiming single mother pension!!!

Well,

To be honest, it's the husband's fault for cheating on his wife, and left her for another woman, He's the one who spilt up the family and he should have kept his own dick in his pant then he wouldn't have to worry about paying no child support, now that his ex wife will be remarry to another man, he has a job out of state, now the ex husband ( the father ) has to pay the airline tickets to see his children and pay child support too...No judge is going to feel sorry for a cheating husband, he should have stick with his marriage vows, he wouldn't be where he's at today!!!....

I bet he learn his lesson, once you cheat, you don't get a free ride

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Are you saying that it is OK for the step-father not to have a financial support to the non-biological kids who live with him when he marries to their mother????? I think it is an absurd.

Yes, Cheri is correct.

Why absurd?

I can´t see any wrong if mother want remarry.
I can´t see any wrong if mother´s new husband accept her children as his step-children.

No, step father do not support his wife´s children with financial support because they are not their biological father.

It would be different story when there´re adoption.

It sounds to me like a step-father has more loving attention to the mother and negligence to her kids? Before he proposed her an engagement ring, I am pretty sure that both of them have talked about having kids or raising a family. She would ask him if he would like to have her existing kids in the house so that he can have a "family man and husband" position title automatically. Well, I am at loss on this matter because it doesn't add-up to make any sense when there is another man in the house who is living and raising with the kids. It is not to be confused with a "baby-sitter" position title. Whoever is living and raising kids are the one who obligates to clothes and feed them. Kids needs a good parental role from them and establishes a good family pattern.

Most men don´t like to live or marry women who has already kids.

It look like that soon to be step-father accept his financee´s children because he love them and her fiancee. There´re no question of negligence kids because mother and step-father are an adult. They knew that they have kids around. I see nothing wrong if they together produce a baby.

No offend, Cheri....your quote does not pursue it, but to collect $$$$ from the ex.

Who is the fault? It´s his own fault for cheat his ex-wife with other women. He must support his children BECAUSE he´s the father of the children.

It is my understanding that Courts do not waive father's rights at his own request. The Court must find him being unfit such as sending him to prison for a long time, abusive to kids, etc. If he is very kind gentle person, the Courts will force him to cough up for the CS, even she is married to someone else. If he really wants to give up his father's rights and don't want to see his kids anymore, the mother must agree with him. If she doesn't simply agree with him, consider her as a cruel and unnecessary punishment...and, of course wants his $$$$ to add some extra spending spree for herself and her family. See, money is the root of all evil!

It sounds selfish and unloving father. It look like that father doesnt love his own children but think about "save money". It´s a disgusting because he´s the father of his children. I would be when I heard about this.

I see no cruel or punishment what a mother did but she has the right to demand children support because she take care of HIS children.

The bottom line is that after the step-father marries her, he would need to be the family man and husband for her and her kids. Again, that's what the marriage is all about to enjoy the fullest in every woven threads among them (step-father, mother, & the kids) in one big family. But, it is not happening because the real father is still in the same family picture because of CS when he wishes to be an invisible (i.e. no CS & giving up his father's rights).

Disagree: because step-father is not children´s real father. It would be different story if there´re an adoption

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No, He cannot adopts someone else's children unless the non-custodial parent (Father) gives up his rights. Even if she remarried, The step-father is not their father and it's not his responsibility to support the children. If he wants to support the children He can but, he is not required to. My sister would know more about remarried and if the non-custodial father would still pay child support if the mother is remarried. Because she is divorce herself.

Yes, correct.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

http://www.mensrights.com.au/index.php?article_id=90

My neighbour's single mother payment will stop if she married again, her ex husband will continue to pay for their children's child support (because he is their blood and flesh) until

Yes, it´s same with German´s law, too.

(a) her 2nd husband want to adopt the children
(b) coming of age - 16 - some agreement for schooling fees etc.
(c) deceased.

Yes, it´s same with German law, too except (b) for schooling fees until a child is 27 years old.

Single mother pension is similar as SSI they can't go to work because of underage children and stay home housewife/homeduties without a partner to support her, similiar as widow pension. If she has a husband living with her she can't claim single mother pension, if caught, she will go to jail for fraud.

Yes, same too.

It´s different if there´re absive domestic etc. A mother has the right to say no to father to see their children until they are 18 years old.

OR

If father wants to see their children then police must to be there with him.

OR

If mother take her children to live in oversea but she has to talk her ex first. If ex doesnt agree then go to court...................... It´s not easy for mother to start a new life at oversea with kids because alot of father reject it. If she take children to oversea without get the permission from her ex is a kidnapping offense.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You are correct Cheri....

Once a mother gets remarried with another man, the man can not adopt her children unless their father give up his rights if the step father wants to adopt her children then he would have to go thru the court system to do so or unless he can prove the court that the father is unfit...


And yes, if the mother remarried again, the father will still have to pay child support no matter what!

Yes, correct.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well,

To be honest, it's the husband's fault for cheating on his wife, and left her for another woman, He's the one who spilt up the family and he should have kept his own dick in his pant then he wouldn't have to worry about paying no child support, now that his ex wife will be remarry to another man, he has a job out of state, now the ex husband ( the father ) has to pay the airline tickets to see his children and pay child support too...No judge is going to feel sorry for a cheating husband, he should have stick with his marriage vows, he wouldn't be where he's at today!!!....

I bet he learn his lesson, once you cheat, you don't get a free ride

exactly.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I know German law:

If real father is alive give up father rights for an adoption. Yes but but but....

There´re no adoption if real father is not alive to give up father rights if his widow remarry and want her new husband adopt her children.

Widow will loses widow money if she remarry.

 

[Cheri]

About c. I have read several articles in the past that immediately after the Courts ordered the fathers to pay up the CS, they just committed suicides. Hence, deceased on the record. Some of them were having financial hardship and couldn't pay the minimum mandatory requirement of CS. Jailing won't do anything good to help the fathers so they just ended up their life for good. I felt very sorry for those victims of CS!

Like I said in earlier postings, money is the root of all evil

~DV

The victims are the people who has custody of the child(ren) not the non-custody. <<<They're are no victims. I guess you worry more about fathers than children? What about children needs? What about the money that the mother spends on her own children when the father doesn't have to pay anything because, He couldn't afford it. Oh Come on, Fathers should have thought about it before their swimmers went in and made a baby. That's why they call Fathers "Deadbeat Dad", Who doesn't want to pay child support, excuses, excuses, why he cannot afford it. Get a job!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

The victims are the people who has custody of the child(ren) not the non-custody. <<<They're are no victims. I guess you worry more about fathers than children? What about children needs? What about the money that the mother spends on her own children when the father doesn't have to pay anything because, He couldn't afford it. Oh Come on, Fathers should have thought about it before their swimmers went in and made a baby. That's why they call Fathers "Deadbeat Dad", Who doesn't want to pay child support, excuses, excuses, why he cannot afford it. Get a job!

Good point

 

[Angel]

Actually the courts award the amount based on earnings they make a year, so there no point of excuess how they can't afford to pay any child support and if anyone owe any back up child support, then the court ordered the Child Support Enforcement Agency to take it out of their taxes refund, if they happen to owe more than what they got back from their taxes refund, then they will ordered to keep paying for whatever they may owe and if the child reach the age of 18 and still owe back up child support, then they would have to contiune to pay it off.....The court do not make anyone pay more than what they really earn a year....

 

[DeafVeggie]

You are correct Cheri....

Once a mother gets remarried with another man, the man can not adopt her children unless their father give up his rights if the step father wants to adopt her children then he would have to go thru the court system to do so or unless he can prove the court that the father is unfit...


And yes, if the mother remarried again, the father will still have to pay child support no matter what!

Angel, thank you for making a comment. That's exactly of what I am trying to say to Cheri on posting #39. So, I'm going to re-phrase alittle bit here for clarity:

The father cannot request to give up his father's rights at anytime if he wants to. There are only two ways he can give up on it:

1) Being unfit
2) Step-father adopts his children if she remarries him.


Now, my main concern is about the step-father. Once he enters the marriage relationship with her, he should have also adopt her children immediately if the natural father does not want to see his children anymore. Thus, it ceases collecting CS from the natural father. Make sense?

What I am seeing the picture today, many step-fathers do not want to adopt her kids because they do not to be financial obligate to take over her kids. With that kind of attitude, step-fathers just letting her ex to pay up as part of a "that's-your-fault" punishment...and, need the $$$ from him so that whole family can afford to go to Disneyland! That's cruel!

~DV

 

[Cheri]

Angel, thank you for making a comment. That's exactly of what I am trying to say to Cheri on posting #39. So, I'm going to re-phrase alittle bit here for clarity:

The father cannot request to give up his father's rights at anytime if he wants to. There are only two ways he can give up on it:

1) Being unfit
2) Step-father adopts his children if she remarries him.

It's you that don't understand my post, I said if the father doesn't want the children anymore like stopped his visiting stopped paying child support, Haven't visit the child since birth, That is "unfit" Father figures.

 

[DeafVeggie]

Yes, Cheri is correct.

Why absurd?

I can´t see any wrong if mother want remarry.
I can´t see any wrong if mother´s new husband accept her children as his step-children.

No no no I meant to say that it is absurd to see the step-father does not do anything with her kids once he enters the marriage relationship with her. It is perfectly ok if the mother wants remarry. It is perfectly ok for her new husband to accept her children as his step-children. But, the step-father must act quickly to adopt her children and get her ex out of his/her face if her ex wants to give up the father rights and does not want to see the children.

No, step father do not support his wife´s children with financial support because they are not their biological father.

It would be different story when there´re adoption.

I am speaking about being adopting them. When will step-father do it when her ex doesn't want to see the children and wants to give up the father's rights?

Most men don´t like to live or marry women who has already kids.

It look like that soon to be step-father accept his financee´s children because he love them and her fiancee. There´re no question of negligence kids because mother and step-father are an adult. They knew that they have kids around. I see nothing wrong if they together produce a baby.

Noted...

Who is the fault? It´s his own fault for cheat his ex-wife with other women. He must support his children BECAUSE he´s the father of the children.

The Courts doesn't care if he cheats or not. He still have to pay up because she chooooooooose WANTS to keep the children instead of sending kids to adoption agency for their better livilhood sake.

It sounds selfish and unloving father. It look like that father doesnt love his own children but think about "save money". It´s a disgusting because he´s the father of his children. I would be when I heard about this.

I see no cruel or punishment what a mother did but she has the right to demand children support because she take care of HIS children.

It is not about "saving money". What if father is jobless and is out of work? There are many of them out there! What would she do? Still go after his last dollar after a long hot sunny day of displaying "Will Work For Food" sign for his intended dinner meal? Come on...

She takes care of children is by HER choice, not his! So, if she wants to take care of children, let her pay her own. If she can't afford them, send the children to the adoption agency!

Disagree: because step-father is not children´s real father. It would be different story if there´re an adoption

That's correct when the story changes after adoption.

~DV

 

[DeafVeggie]

It's you that don't understand my post, I said if the father doesn't want the children anymore like stopped his visiting stopped paying child support, Haven't visit the child since birth, That is "unfit" Father figures.

Oh ok. Thanks for the clarification!

~DV

 

[Angel]

Angel, thank you for making a comment. That's exactly of what I am trying to say to Cheri on posting #39. So, I'm going to re-phrase alittle bit here for clarity:

The father cannot request to give up his father's rights at anytime if he wants to. There are only two ways he can give up on it:

1) Being unfit
2) Step-father adopts his children if she remarries him.


Now, my main concern is about the step-father. Once he enters the marriage relationship with her, he should have also adopt her children immediately if the natural father does not want to see his children anymore. Thus, it ceases collecting CS from the natural father. Make sense?

What I am seeing the picture today, many step-fathers do not want to adopt her kids because they do not to be financial obligate to take over her kids. With that kind of attitude, step-fathers just letting her ex to pay up as part of a "that's-your-fault" punishment...and, need the $$$ from him so that whole family can afford to go to Disneyland! That's cruel!

~DV

I do understand where you're coming from on this DeafVeggie, that's only IF the father give up his rights and not seeing his children anymore then yes, it would be cruel and selfish for the mother's new husband not supporting her children....Once you are in a relationship or in a marriage with a woman who has already has children from the past relationship or marriage, then he should be able to adopt her children and raise them as any fathers would.... If he has financial problems then he shouldn't have been in a relationship or in a marriage with a woman who has children, the mother would be dumb enough to let a man into her lives who doesn't have the money to raise her children when she has no help from her ex (s ) since he has given up his rights and not being part of her children lives anymore, once a person step into that type of relationship, then they should be the one taking the main role on raising those children as a family and if he doesn't want to be in that type of relationship then I suggest him to find a woman that has no children.....there's just no excuess to say " Oh I don't have that much money to raise 4 children " then throw him out in the street and let them crawl his way to a homeless shelter!...

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for those non- custody mothers or fathers out there who won't take their responsible on rasing their children, if they have financial problems then get a second job or simple don't have children then if you can't afford it!!

 

[Cheri]

The Courts doesn't care if he cheats or not. He still have to pay up because she chooooooooose WANTS to keep the children instead of sending kids to adoption agency for their better livilhood sake.

Why should she send her children to adoption agency? Just because she a single mother? I am a single mother I love my boys too much to give them up! It not about living rich, in a nice house, with a brand new car. It's about giving your children love, support, shelter, clothes and food. It makes no damn sense why the father shouldn't pay no child support.

It is not about "saving money". What if father is jobless and is out of work? There are many of them out there! What would she do? Still go after his last dollar after a long hot sunny day of displaying "Will Work For Food" sign for his intended dinner meal? Come on...

Too bad, Fathers had sex, they made a child, They should face their responsibility. And that is paying child support. There is no free ride, Get off their buns and find a job or else go to jail. There are bunch of deadbeat dads out in the world whom doesn't have jobs, or etc. But, they will have to pay the remain balance that they owe from the date that the Father stopped living with the child, The date that the father stopped paying. The date of the child's birth if the father was never around.

She takes care of children is by HER choice, not his! So, if she wants to take care of children, let her pay her own. If she can't afford them, send the children to the adoption agency!

It's not about not being able to afford, Being a single mother is no picnic and being a father doesn't mean he can get away with child support. It takes two to bring a child in the world and it's take two to raise a child, So the father cannot avoid child support. You sound so darn selfish, You think you can make a woman pregnant and if she decide to raise a child when you don't want raise a child with her, nor she doesn't want to be in a relationship with you while raising her child. You think you can walk away not paying child support? That would make you a "deadbeat dad".

 

[DeafVeggie]

The victims are the people who has custody of the child(ren) not the non-custody. <<<They're are no victims. I guess you worry more about fathers than children? What about children needs? What about the money that the mother spends on her own children when the father doesn't have to pay anything because, He couldn't afford it. Oh Come on, Fathers should have thought about it before their swimmers went in and made a baby. That's why they call Fathers "Deadbeat Dad", Who doesn't want to pay child support, excuses, excuses, why he cannot afford it. Get a job!

Once the mother WANTS to keep the children, it is by her choice not HIS. Thus, it makes HIM a financial victim! The children needs to be in a wholesome family environment where both father and mother can give unlimited attention to them. Where? In the adoption family homes or re-marry to a new step-father who adopts them.

I met many single moms who were hard, unpleasant, overworked, lonely, etc trying to raise kids. I do have the sympathy hearts to go out for those single moms as they tried all of their best to raise kids. Being "alone" is not always good when raising kids. What's worse, many of the kids eventually ended up in jails of various crimes because of no fatherly displines around them.

If the father couldn't afford CS, you are right that he should have think twice before putting the "seeds" in her. However, it is ALSO that she should have think twice, too, before spreading her legs to see if he can afford raising a kid!

Deadbeat dads are the ones who can afford CS while many others don't. There are many deaf deadbeat dads out there and they live on SSI and can't find jobs and therefore, they can't afford CS. So, would you please tell me how can they find jobs per your easy word?

~DV

 

[Cheri]

Once the mother WANTS to keep the children, it is by her choice not HIS. Thus, it makes HIM a financial victim! The children needs to be in a wholesome family environment where both father and mother can give unlimited attention to them. Where? In the adoption family homes or re-marry to a new step-father who adopts them.

Again, You are letting the father having a free ride. Enough said. You support the deadbeat dads out there.

I met many single moms who were hard, unpleasant, overworked, lonely, etc trying to raise kids. I do have the sympathy hearts to go out for those single moms as they tried all of their best to raise kids. Being "alone" is not always good when raising kids. What's worse, many of the kids eventually ended up in jails of various crimes because of no fatherly displines around them.

That is bull crap! My boys are very good kids, and plus my son who has A's and B's on his report cards, Never got in trouble in school. It is not true what you stated. If the children lives in a home where there are abuse, violence behavior lead the possibility of children in their future in life where they will break laws. My home with my boys is a good stable home with a lot of love. My boys love me more than they love their own father, You know why? They know I've support them, They know I been there for them. We are very close happy family and Your post is not true about all single mothers, and about various crimes. Look it up. Good grief.

Deadbeat dads are the ones who can afford CS while many others don't. There are many deaf deadbeat dads out there and they live on SSI and can't find jobs and therefore, they can't afford CS. So, would you please tell me how can they find jobs per your easy word?

I have a job, I pay for daycare for my children, I have a home for my children what the father's excuse not to have a job when he doesn't have no children at home, doesn't have to pay for a day care. What his freggin excuse? None!

 

[Cheri]

You have to focuses on the children not the non-custody father or non-custody mother. The children are the victims. "cost of raising a child" The amounts are based on the average amounts parents spend to raise a child, not one parent which the custody parent. Child support is the joint responsibility of both parents, not their new spouses, [which meaning step-father or step-mother]

Amen! ^Angel^, You said it perfectly.