Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter

"DALLAS - If the man wounded by Dick Cheney dies, the vice president could — in theory at least — face criminal charges, even though the shooting was an accident."
told you so!

"The charge carries up to two years behind bars, but with no previous felonies Cheney would be eligible for probation, the former prosecutor said."
only two years...? he didn't just kill a man, he also vilocated (sp?) the rules that he should've bought a hunting license and a stamp with him before he goes out hunting but did he have any of those with him, obvioulsy no. either that he forgot or that he just went there to shoot someone on purose.

"In the only other case of someone being shot by a vice president, Aaron Burr was indicted on murder charges in New York and New Jersey for killing Alexander Hamilton in a duel in 1804, but he was never tried and finished out his term in office."

pathetic.
 
Steel X said:
"DALLAS - If the man wounded by Dick Cheney dies, the vice president could — in theory at least — face criminal charges, even though the shooting was an accident."
told you so!

"The charge carries up to two years behind bars, but with no previous felonies Cheney would be eligible for probation, the former prosecutor said."
only two years...? he didn't just kill a man, he also vilocated (sp?) the rules that he should've bought a hunting license and a stamp with him before he goes out hunting but did he have any of those with him, obvioulsy no. either that he forgot or that he just went there to shoot someone on purose.

"In the only other case of someone being shot by a vice president, Aaron Burr was indicted on murder charges in New York and New Jersey for killing Alexander Hamilton in a duel in 1804, but he was never tried and finished out his term in office."

pathetic.
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Read carefully. It says IF the man wounded by Dick Cheney dies.....

It means that he is not dead but if he dies then Cheney may be charged.
 
Taylor said:
Well, we can leave that for another thread, but in the case of Cheney shooting this guy, I have heard from several democrats (including folks here at AD) that Cheney intentionally shot the guy and that he died and that Cheney was guilty of murder. Who would vote for a murderer? Thats why its done. Perhaps things are different in your town, but where I am, it is the Republicans who speak the truth and the Democrats who will pull stuff out of their arse (even as so far as saying that Republicans are racists and hate black people...its the Dems that say that).
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Next somebody will say cheney shot him with a machine gun and threatened the police with death if he didn't report it as an accident. :roll:
 
You know, I'd hate to see this become important enough a story to distract us from what we should be paying attention to - King George. It's a pretty minor story, really. Bringing up Chappaquiddick and Kennedy to compare it to is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard of lately - I mean c'mon, that was a thousand years ago, and Kennedy is NOT the second in command in the country.

But...the more important story is Cheney's role in the CIA leak. Hey, let's start a consipracy theory! Cheney shot that guy on purpose to divert the attention of the press!
 
Lol, Nuty, you might have something there.
Personally, I am still waiting for Cheney to sell that AWESOME 28-guage on Ebay so I can retire mine. Let's see...it is designed to enter a bird about in inch or so from 20 yards, give or take a few. Yet from 30 yards, his puny 28-guage shotgun tore through Whittington's hunting vest, his clothes underneath, through his chest cavity and lodged into a heart muscle.
Talk about a shotgun on steroids.
:Angel:
 
Nuty said:
... Bringing up Chappaquiddick and Kennedy to compare it to is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard of lately - I mean c'mon, that was a thousand years ago, and Kennedy is NOT the second in command in the country. ..
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There is no statute of limitations on murder; and poor Mary Jo is still dead.
:(

It might seem like "a thousand years ago" to you but for some of us it is a constant sore spot. If she was your daughter, would you just "forget" about it?
 
Nope!!! I'd smoke that motherf*cker in less than a second if that was my daugher.

Men know better than to mess with somebody's daughter in the wrong way !!!!!

They should change the laws to make it more commonsense then the crime would go way down and people will think twice before touching somebody's daughter !!!!
 
I personally know some people who were involved in a hunting accident. The young boy almost died. The shooter was extremely distraught and upset for a long time. Neither the boy nor his father was angry at the shooter. All the people involved stayed friends. They wept together, suffered together, and prayed together. When the boy recovered, they all celebrated together. The boy (who is now a man) still enjoys hunting.

There were no criminal or civil charges, no arrests made. Accidents do happen.

Hubby's uncle (and namesake) was accidentally shot and killed by another hunter. His uncle had survived four years of fighting in the Pacific during World War II but he was killed in the Michigan woods during deer season. His family held no hatred for the shooter. They knew that accidents happen.
 
Reba said:
I personally know some people who were involved in a hunting accident. The young boy almost died. The shooter was extremely distraught and upset for a long time. Neither the boy nor his father was angry at the shooter. All the people involved stayed friends. They wept together, suffered together, and prayed together. When the boy recovered, they all celebrated together. The boy (who is now a man) still enjoys hunting.

There were no criminal or civil charges, no arrests made. Accidents do happen.

Hubby's uncle (and namesake) was accidentally shot and killed by another hunter. His uncle had survived four years of fighting in the Pacific during World War II but he was killed in the Michigan woods during deer season. His family held no hatred for the shooter. They knew that accidents happen.
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True, accidents happen. But the way they tell it is just physically impossible. I have a feeling you know the limitations of a 28-guage shotgun, Reba, and I am tempted to allow you to fire one at me from 30 yards away just to prove a point. I DO believe that it was an accident, but not in the way they told it. Perhaps alcohol was involved? Why this ridiculous obsession with hiding the truth?
Oh well.
 
Beowulf said:
True, accidents happen. But the way they tell it is just physically impossible. I have a feeling you know the limitations of a 28-guage shotgun, Reba, and I am tempted to allow you to fire one at me from 30 yards away just to prove a point. I DO believe that it was an accident, but not in the way they told it. Perhaps alcohol was involved? Why this ridiculous obsession with hiding the truth?
Oh well.
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Beo--I'm betting that 20 guage is a three-inch magnum.
 
I hope you know I was just bantering with you, Tous!
Anyway, the shotgun was an 18-inch Remington 870 Marine Magnumn and it used #8 Birdshot.
And by the way, re-enactments show that Whittington was likely shot from 15 feet, not 90.
Weird, huh?
 
Man Shot by Cheney Leaving Hospital

CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - The lawyer shot by Vice President Dick Cheney during a hunting trip was being discharged from a hospital Friday and told reporters he was deeply sorry for all the trouble Cheney had faced over the past week.

Cheney, speaking to the Wyoming Legislature on Friday, also alluded to the shooting as he thanked lawmakers for their half-minute standing ovation, saying the warm greeting was especially welcome "when you've had a very long week."

"Thankfully, Harry Whittington is on the mend and doing well," Cheney said.

In Texas, Whittington wore a suit and tie as he gave his brief statement outside the hospital. His voice was a bit raspy, but strong, and he had what appeared to be a line of cuts on his upper right eyelid and scrapes on his neck.

"We all assume certain risks in what we do, in what activities we pursue," the 78-year-old Austin attorney said. "Accidents do and will happen."

Whittington was hit in the face, neck and chest with birdshot Saturday during a hunting trip at a South Texas ranch. He had been listed in stable condition in a Corpus Christi hospital since suffering a mild heart attack Tuesday after a shotgun pellet traveled to his heart.

Cheney took full blame for the shooting in an interview Wednesday with Fox News, his first public comments on what happened that day.

"I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend," Cheney said in the interview. He said it was "one of the worst days of my life."

Dr. David Blanchard, chief of emergency care at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial, said Whittington will go home Friday because of "his excellent health," but Blanchard added that "he is not 100 percent."

During his statement, Whittington said the past weekend involved "a cloud of misfortune and sadness that is not easy to explain, especially with those who are not familiar with the great sport of quail hunting."

He said he sent his love and respect to Cheney and his family.

"My family and I are deeply sorry for everything Vice President Cheney and his family have had to deal with," he said. "We hope that he will continue to come and seek the relaxation that he deserves."

The Kenedy County Sheriff's Department closed its investigation of the shooting on Thursday without filing any charges. The department released an incident report that supported accounts from the ranch owner and Cheney.

Cheney told an investigator that he did not see Whittington while aiming for a bird. Whittington "explained foremost there was no alcohol during the hunt and everyone was wearing the proper hunting attire of blaze orange," Chief Deputy Gilberto San Miguel Jr. wrote.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cheney_whittington
 
Beowulf said:
I hope you know I was just bantering with you, Tous!
Anyway, the shotgun was an 18-inch Remington 870 Marine Magnumn and it used #8 Birdshot.
And by the way, re-enactments show that Whittington was likely shot from 15 feet, not 90.
Weird, huh?
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Yeah, I'm curious about the distance as well. As I said earlier, I'm not a hunter and I don't know what these firearms can do from a specified distance (I have a general idea though).

I do know that firearms, bullets, and shot don't always act the way they are supposed to so its difficult to say anything about the damage in this hunting accident. I once handled a case where a guy was shot in the side of his forehead with a 9mm from about 10 feet away. The bullet entered, went under the skin but never penetrated the skull. The bullet moved under his skin, around the skull and came out in the back. Pretty lucky guy for taking a 9mm in the head and it only took a few stitches to fix him up. I have also seen people shot in the stomach with a gun and it exits out through an arm.

Bullets and shot don't always do what is predictable. In Whittington's case, the pellet that lodged in his heart may not be all that out of line. People have been killed with BB and pellet guns...sometimes they hit just the right way. That could have been the case with Whittington and it was an unlucky shot to go as far as it did into his body.
 
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