Charlie the gator (and girl friend) have to move

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Not exactly a "pet" but Charlie is beloved like one to some people. :)

Monster gator to leave comfort zone, temporarily
Published on 11/04/10
BY BO PETERSEN
bpetersen@postandcourier.com

HANAHAN — Charlie is the stuff of legend — a huge, old, "tame" alligator with a belly like a whale and an appetite like an ogre. He's been fed for decades with mess hall scraps, roadkill, chicken wings, submarine sandwiches and anything else tossed over the retention-pond fence behind the gate at the Joint Base Charleston Weapons Station.

Now, somebody has to move him.

Every time there's a heavy rain, the field around the overgrown pond floods deep enough to float a canoe. The pond has to be cleared and cut deeper to keep the water off the weapons station roads, not to mention nearby Remount Road.

So Charlie and a girthy female companion have to be hauled to a nearby pond to wait out the renovation work.

Good luck with that.

"I'll tell you, I want to see who jumps on him," said base Patrolman Robert Clark with a tight grin as he watched the beady-eyed behemoth hunker down on the bank behind a 7-foot-high fence, waiting for his next handout.

Who, as it turns out, will be commercial trapper Ron Russell of Gator Getter Consultants. Russell already has had one go-round getting to know Charlie, who lunged at him when he got too close to the pond.

"Tame" doesn't describe an ambush-predator reptile who can sink out of sight, then pop up its toothy snout right in front of a person on the bank.

The relo is set to take place in the next few weeks. And, oh yeah, Russell is ready. He plans to use rope snares at both ends.

Charlie has the head of a steer and a tail as thick as an off-road tire is wide. He is reputed to be 900 pounds and as long as 14 feet — but that just makes Russell shake his head.

The heftiest gator Russell has weighed came in at 700 pounds, and that one was bigger and thicker than Charlie. Russell guesses Charlie is 400 pounds.

"He's 11 feet. He might go 11 1/2," the trapper said. "We'll find out."

Charlie's size is just one of the tales told on him. Nobody really knows how he got in the pond to begin with. It's been said that he was pulled from a commander's pool.

There's supposedly a letter on file from two sailors admitting they caught him on the roadside in 1951 and placed him there. But a lot of sailors and soldiers have come forward to confess that they put Charlie in the pond, said Terrence Larimer, the joint base natural resources manager.

What really happened "is sort of lost in the mists of the past," Larimer said. As best as anyone can guess, the alligator showed up sometime in the early 1970s. Based on studies Russell has seen, he guessed Charlie to be about 40 years old, maybe 50.

It's not unheard of for an alligator in captivity to live to be 60 to 80 years old. As for an animal in his own private love den with room service, "I might make it to 80 if I'm taken care of like that," Russell said.

Maybe the best story told about Charlie concerned a grass cutter. A hired hand on a riding mower was ordered to cut the lawn around the pond, and, um, evidently was not told about Charlie.

When the mower got too near the pond, the monster reptile lunged, knocked it over and sent the worker screaming down Remount Road. Word is, he never even came back for the check, Larimer said.

It shows just how legendary Charlie is that Russell, too, has heard this story, except that he heard the alligator grabbed the mower and dragged it into the pond.

"Once again," he said, "when they drain that pond, we'll find out."
Sorry, Charlie

We've seen Charlie there since we moved to this area in 1978.

I'm sorry this doesn't have captions but you can see what Charlie looks like:

Monster gator to leave comfort zone, temporarily | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

The comments after the story give more personal stories from people who remember seeing and feeding Charlie over the decades.
 
Interesting. He looks like he is so fat , his legs almost won't support him on land.
 
stick him in a nyc sewer. he will grow 5 feet in 5 years guaranteed
 
Why do I have the feeling that this gator is going to be on Fatal Animal Attractions in the future? If you don't get the Animal channel, it's a tv show about people who are killed by their "pet" wildlife.
 
Interesting. He looks like he is so fat , his legs almost won't support him on land.
People feed him too much junk food. :lol:

He does have a girl friend. ;) I guess she doesn't mind his love handles.
 
Update:

Toothy 'legend' relocated after a bit of wrestling
By Bo Petersen

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Charlie went along peaceably enough.

Sure, the huge gator reared up in the water when he felt the snares, pulling against two full-grown men who strained at the leashes to keep him from submerging and taking them along on a "death roll."

And yeah, after they wrestled him ashore, he opened his gaping maw and bared his razor teeth, thrashing his slab of a tail like an angry cat.

But all in all, the legendary beast of the Joint Base Charleston Weapons Station handled his transfer on Wednesday as gracefully as could be expected -- just as soon as Ron Russell tied off his snout, covered his eyes with a towel and sat on his head, while two other men straddled his back. Charlie was enough of a gentleman that Russell, of Gator Getter Consultants, gave him an affectionate pat on the head.

Charlie is the huge, old, "tame" alligator with a belly like a whale and an appetite like an ogre who has lived for at least a few decades at the weapons station. He has become the beloved behemoth of the place, regaling admirers from a retention pond off Remount Road, where he's fed with mess hall scraps, roadkill, chicken wings, submarine sandwiches and anything else tossed over the pond fence.

Just rattling the chain links called him out of the pond and up to the fence for the latest snack. He was reputed to be 900 pounds and 14 feet long.

But he and a sizable girlfriend had to be moved temporarily to a nearby pond so the retention pond can be cleared and deepened. It took eight people to lift the board holding him onto the truck bed.

"It took four, five of us to get his butt on the (pond) bank," Russell said with grudging admiration. But a cool night had left him mostly lethargic. When the Gator Getter crew came through the gate to the pond, he was already lounging at the pond's edge, his long snout lying up on the bank.

The alligator measured out to 12 feet even. Russell "conservatively" estimated his weight at 500 pounds.

Charlie is the huge, old, "tame" alligator with a belly like a whale and an appetite like an ogre who has lived for at least a few decades at a retention pond at the Joint Base Charleston Weapons Station. He and a sizeable girlfriend had to be moved temporarily to a nearby pond so the retention pond can be cleared and deepened.

Charlie and his 7-foot-long friend have been moved to a large pen built in the holding pond. The pen is as secure as possible, Russell said, but he and others will keep an eye on the alligators. Charlie has already tested for "give" in his new fence. Alligators have an uncanny homing instinct and a reputation for not staying put.

A 6-foot alligator was trapped in a pond near Beaufort and released on Bears Island in Bull's Bay more than 30 miles and five river basins away. It was caught again in its home pond 14 years later -- as a 10-footer.

Nobody knows for sure how long Charlie has lived in the retention pond. The lore has grown along with the gator. There's supposedly a letter on file from two sailors admitting they caught him on the roadside in 1951 and placed him there. Among a host of people who contacted The Post and Courier after an earlier story, Lloyd Clayton, Hanahan Water Treatment Plant maintenance planner, remembered his grandfather taking him to see the alligator about 60 years ago.

Charlie was 8 feet long when Col. Charles Campbell was assigned to the base in 1965. There wasn't a fence around the pond then, Judy Campbell Parent, the colonel's daughter, said. The gator would eat anything except possum and pimiento cheese, she said. Parent remembered one female alligator that was placed in the pond in the 1960s as a companion; Charlie ate it.

"We went out of town for the weekend and when we came back the guard said, 'Glad you are back, Colonel. Charlie walked halfway to your house before we could turn him around,'" Parent said.

He's enough of an institution that truckers stopped on Remount Road and climbed up on their rigs to watch the capture.

"Aw, they caught Charlie," one called out.

"Man, he's beautiful," said trucker Pernell Brown.

Frank Watts of SAIC, a technological support contractor working at the base, pulled over to the roadside and strode on down the fence line to watch. He first saw Charlie in 1977 when he came to Charleston with the Navy, he said. Everybody knows about the gator. "He's a legend."
Toothy 'legend' relocated after a bit of wrestling | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment
 
There is a big old gator named Charlie in Daytona Beach too. Wonder if they are related. :hmm: :lol: This one was nicer (didn't eat his friends) and live on a golf course called Indigo Lakes.
 
There is a big old gator named Charlie in Daytona Beach too. Wonder if they are related. :hmm: :lol: This one was nicer (didn't eat his friends) and live on a golf course called Indigo Lakes.

:lol:
 
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