Census shows whites lose US majority among babies

[Foxrac]

I heard about getting visa aka green card to enter US can be more difficult and more challenge to obtain, is it true?

 

[shel90]

I heard about getting visa aka green card to enter US can be more difficult and more challenge to obtain, is it true?

Yep, it is more difficult nowadays.

 

[shel90]

Mid-February of this year. I had an American boyfriend and flew down every 3 or 4 months to visit him. Passport is required but visa, no.

Now, it is passport. 10 years ago, it wasnt required. My friend from Canada came to visit us without a passport in 2001.

 

[Beach girl]

A visa is not the same as a green card, though. A visa is given for a specific purpose and often has a time limit attached to it. A green card gives permission to stay indefinitely. It is often the first step toward citizenship.

 

[Banjo]

Now, it is passport. 10 years ago, it wasnt required. My friend from Canada came to visit us without a passport in 2001.

That's right, they didn't start requiring passports or enhanced driver's licenses until 2009. Before that, we were required to show our driver's license and birth certificate, but they didn't ask for it every time. They didn't start making it a mandate to show your documents every time until a year or two before 2009. I was able to enter the USA on many occasions without even having to show any documents before that.

 

[Smithtr]

it is very risk on serious baby on reason lots gay marriage, if supposed
don't sense permission baby! it is very serious risk! I think so possible to father,

where missing mom! baby need to learn how pretty on father, no mamma, I am puzzed it

 

[Smithtr]

sorry doubt posts! bump!

 

[saywhatkid]

it is very risk on serious baby on reason lots gay marriage, if supposed
don't sense permission baby! it is very serious risk! I think so possible to father,

where missing mom! baby need to learn how pretty on father, no mamma, I am puzzed it

You appear to be singling out the men here. Remember that there are many children that are growing up in a one parent household. More than half are living with Mom. No Dad.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

The link you provided doesn't even come close to answering the question. What were you trying to tell me? I sincerely would like to know, because it starts with "Seventy-seven years ago, Josephine Puccio Zangara, a young girl from Gereci, Italy, stepped out of the shadow of the Statue of Liberty and passed into the imposing brick immigration station at Ellis Island." That seems to support my contention that she needed to have paperwork done in the immigration station in order to become legal.
Of course, I could be wrong. Am I, anyone?

"Illegal Immigration Debate Echoes At Ellis Island - Chicago Tribune
Nov 17, 1994 –[ While Proposition 187 applies only to immigrants who arrived here illegally-unlike the ones who passed through Ellis Island, ..."]
This said that immigrants that came here through Ellis Island where not illegal

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

I've never been to the Prairies but I've heard many stories that the Prairie provinces, to put it politely, is very conservative.

It's all of western Canada. Not just the Prairies. British Columbians like to say they're open-minded and accepting of all cultures, but that's really a thin veil. See, out here... it's jaded: it's akin to a white hippie female getting laid with a black person, then saying she's not racist because she slept with a black person.

First Nations folks are not too popular in western Canada either. I don't blame them; most people just see the drug addicts and drunks in their alleys instead of the people who really are contributing to society on their television sets.

 

[Banjo]

First Nations folks are not too popular in western Canada either. I don't blame them; most people just see the drug addicts and drunks in their alleys instead of the people who really are contributing to society on their television sets.

That's pretty unfortunate, I have to say. The treatment received by the government ain't pretty either.

 

[jillio]

You said.......White people are scared to death that they will loose all those advantages they have had for so many years based on nothing more than their skin color.

Does that not sound "racist" to you, Jillo? I'm, white, and I've worked damn hard all my life starting at a young age....I've paid my dues and paid my taxes.... My skin color had nothing to do with it!

It is not racist at all. It is a fact that white privilege exists and that white people take advantage of it on a daily basis without even realizing they are benefitting from it.

The fact that you even had the opportunity to work hard and achieve had much to do with your skin color.

 

[jillio]

I saw a documentary of Jane Elliot conducting her Brown Eyes/Blue Eyes workshop in Regina, Saskatchewan. That was very very illuminating for she shows how even white people who think they are not racist are racist. A couple of them even walked out after she treated them the same way natives are treated by talking down to them and treating them like they were stupid or unworthy. Anyone ever seen any films of her workshops?

Yep, I sure have.

And I have done my own informal research through observation of white priviledge. I am bi-racial. My son has a very ethnic appearance, as did my mother and my brother. In my early years, I did as well, with green eyes and dark red hair. I have vitiligo, however, so I have lost all of my skin pigmentation. (I posted pics some time back when we were having a discussion such as this). I appear to be Celtic. I know for a fact that there is a difference in the way people respond to me based on my appearance, and after they know that I am actually bi-racial, and the difference in the way people respond to my son (ethnic appearance) and my brother (ethnic appearance) and my mother (ethnic appearance). I have been placed in a situation where I kind of have an outsiders view from the inside, so to speak, because of nothing more than a autoimmune disorder that caused me to loose all my sking pigmentation.

For people to say that white priviledge does not exist is simply naive. Even history supports it.

 

[jillio]

Why can't we celebrate white culture as well? My daughter recently asked me that - there's African American month and Hispanic month...but no Caucasian month. Then she asked me if it was because that the Caucasian race doesn't have culture! Double standard!

Because every month is Caucasion month.

 

[jillio]

The truth is we promote racism by having double standards.

There's B.E.T - but if we wanted a White Entertainment Television, there would be riots all over the place. That's double standard. There are black frats but we cannot have white-only fraternity? Does this mean in 15-20 years, B.E.T will be considered racist and we will have...W.E.T?

How is that a double standard? There is one station devoted to black entertainment. How many hundred others are not devoted solely to black entertainment? Those are all "white" stations.

 

[jillio]

Ok, let's look at it another way. What if no black organizations exist whatsoever? What kind of society do you think we would be living in where blacks are not permitted to support themselves and protect their rights as equals? I do not believe there's a double standard to having black organizations.
I do believe it is unfortunate that we have to say the first black president, the first black woman to win an oscar for best acting. The fact that we never said that about whites proves just how racist we are. It's sad that blacks have been in America for over 300 years and it's only now there's finally a black president. or that the oscars have been around for a hundred years and it's only now that a black woman wins an award for best acting.

i look forward to the day that we don't need to point out their race when they are being recognized for the same things whites are because they're finally really equals and on par and the skin of their colour does not preface their accomplishments because it's not such an issue for whites anymore. Until we stop saying the first black anything, we're still a racist society.

What's double standards to me is white people so used to living the white way that when anyone dares to promote their own race and protect the rights of their race being equal to whites and as deserving and as entitled as to the same things as whites that they get slammed with the double standards labels.

We've already been there. There were laws passed in 1964 to help remedy that unfair and prjudicial form of culture.

Last paragraph: 100% agree.

 

[dogmom]

Caucasian people - or those perceived to be - have had default privilege and generational privilege for many, many years in this country - this country that is Native Indian Territory. Things like the GI Bill, farmer's aid programs, loan programs, voting rights and many other things have historically been blatantly and not-so-blatantly biased toward people perceived as white. These kinds of aid/services allow discrimination to progress generationally in nature because the benefits of such extend beyond the individual recipient through to their children and grand-children.

To say that one doesn't see color ignores a history of oppression and how that STILL plays out today, which in itself is a perpetuation of the same.

Racism is all about who overall has the power - economic, social and so on.
We've already had and still have "white-only fraternities" <think Klan as the most extreme example but there were and are many others> for hundreds and hundreds of years.

One's skin color still has VERY, very much to do with it and if one doesn't realize that, then there something to think about.

Discussing this is important to taking it apart. I've also been to many white privilege workshops and multi-cultural discussions. Some of them got very emotional/charged because white people didn't like to hear or know what had to be said.

 

[GrendelQ]

I saw a documentary of Jane Elliot conducting her Brown Eyes/Blue Eyes workshop in Regina, Saskatchewan. That was very very illuminating for she shows how even white people who think they are not racist are racist. A couple of them even walked out after she treated them the same way natives are treated by talking down to them and treating them like they were stupid or unworthy. Anyone ever seen any films of her workshops?

DC, I had never seen that before -- thank you so much for bringing this up. Just found a video on PBS Frontline. Couldn't find captions, but there's a corresponding transcript. The kids' responses were incredible. Amazing experiment!

• A Class Divided -- (the brown eyes/blue eyes experiment)
• The corresponding transcript

 

[Bebonang]

Caucasian people - or those perceived to be - have had default privilege and generational privilege for many, many years in this country - this country that is Native Indian Territory. Things like the GI Bill, farmer's aid programs, loan programs, voting rights and many other things have historically been blatantly and not-so-blatantly biased toward people perceived as white. These kinds of aid/services allow discrimination to progress generationally in nature because the benefits of such extend beyond the individual recipient through to their children and grand-children.

To say that one doesn't see color ignores a history of oppression and how that STILL plays out today, which in itself is a perpetuation of the same.

Racism is all about who overall has the power - economic, social and so on.
We've already had and still have "white-only fraternities" <think Klan as the most extreme example but there were and are many others> for hundreds and hundreds of years.

One's skin color still has VERY, very much to do with it and if one doesn't realize that, then there something to think about.

Discussing this is important to taking it apart. I've also been to many white privilege workshops and multi-cultural discussions. Some of them got very emotional/charged because white people didn't like to hear or know what had to be said.

That is what made all of us, Native Americans, both North America and South America, puzzled about their behaviors and their thinkings that they are more superior being white plus having blue eyes and blond hairs and want to look down on us as being different with brown eyes and their skins, brown or black.

They have the nerve to come to our countries because we help them survived in the wild forests and to help them grow native crops plus learning how to fish in our lakes. Here they want to overpower us by claiming to take the lands away from us so that they can live like owning the land as rightful place to live. Also they have the nerve to tried to rule us by the new government and the first new President, George Washinton. No white people never listen to us just because their customs and traditions are different from Europe and we have lived in our countries (North and South Americas) for many million years before the white people came, even the Vikings. :roll:

Racism is still alive no matter what. The white people like to be superior to any lower classes of brown or black cultures from different countries like Asia, Saudi Arabia, China, Australia (the Aboriginal people), India and Africa plus if there are more other countries being discriminated and abuse. They think they are better than we are of lower classes. Bah! Hogwash!!!!

As for wanting to have more white babies to inherit their white culture and their white tradition with their blue eyes and blond hairs, even brown hairs. It is just like the Germany where Hilter and the officers want to have pure white tradition and religion (Jesus instead of God). If they don't like to hear what we had to say to them, then they should go back where they came from like Europe. They have no right to overpower us just because we were savages to their eyes because they never get to know who we are as people. We are human just like the Whites but they don't care about that. They only care about themselves. Geeze! :roll: