Catholics VS Christianity

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By NICOLE WINFIELD
Associated Press Writer

LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy (AP) -- Pope Benedict XVI reasserted the primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says other Christian communities are either defective or not true churches and Catholicism provides the only true path to salvation.

The statement brought swift criticism from Protestant leaders. "It makes us question whether we are indeed praying together for Christian unity," said the World Alliance of Reformed Churches, a fellowship of 75 million Protestants in more than 100 countries.

"It makes us question the seriousness with which the Roman Catholic Church takes its dialogues with the reformed family and other families of the church," the group said in a letter charging that the document took ecumenical dialogue back to the era before the Second Vatican Council.

It was the second time in a week that Benedict has corrected what he says are erroneous interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-1965 meetings that modernized the church. On Saturday, Benedict revived the old Latin Mass - a move cheered by Catholic traditionalists but criticized by more liberal ones as a step backward from Vatican II.

Among the council's key developments were its ecumenical outreach and the development of the New Mass in the vernacular, which essentially replaced the old Latin Mass.

Benedict, who attended Vatican II as a young theologian, has long complained about what he considers its erroneous interpretation by liberals, saying it was not a break from the past but rather a renewal of church tradition.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which Benedict headed before becoming pope, said it was issuing the new document Tuesday because some contemporary theological interpretations of Vatican II's ecumenical intent had been "erroneous or ambiguous" and had prompted confusion and doubt.

The new document - formulated as five questions and answers - restates key sections of a 2000 text the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, "Dominus Iesus," which riled Protestant and other Christian denominations because it said they were not true churches but merely ecclesial communities and therefore did not have the "means of salvation."

The commentary repeated church teaching that says the Catholic Church "has the fullness of the means of salvation."

"Christ 'established here on earth' only one church," said the document released as the pope vacations at a villa in Lorenzago di Cadore, in Italy's Dolomite mountains.

The other communities "cannot be called 'churches' in the proper sense" because they do not have apostolic succession - the ability to trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles - and therefore their priestly ordinations are not valid, it said.

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[jazzy]

Yeah I have read this other day. Sad.

 

[pek1]

I've never considered the Catholic church to be Christian at all, due to their doctrinal beliefs. Neither do I believe the people who attend their local one are Christians, just sadly misled.

 

[Maria]

I don't trust " ecumenical " thing. I don't believe in Catholicism, their doctrines are false. I never considered that the Catholicism is the only true path to salvation.

 

[Dixie]

Yup this will be the hot topic this week at Sunday School.

Ya know - my personal belief if you believe that Jesus paid for your sins on the cross, and you accept it fully, and embrace it then you've got salvation. Just because the Catholic church can trace their clergy back to the first church that Paul started in Rome, doesnt mean they are legit or not. We as humans were all chosen to spread the word and become 'disciples of Christ' when we first believe. That simple.

I used to have a great deal of respect for the Vatican but the more crap that Pope Benny spouts out the more I disregard them. I know he is only one man out of many. He's human just like you and me and he can make mistakes just like any other human. The pope himself is not Gods chosen one, Jesus was Gods chosen one plain and simple.

 

[KarissaMann05]

I don't trust " ecumenical " thing. I don't believe in Catholicism, their doctrines are false. I never considered that the Catholicism is the only true path to salvation.

Yeah.. I agreed, too.
I only find myself is problem: Christianity has a major bad role in my own view.. also, I'm trying to show them (non-christians) a good role christian, too bad, they oftenly just looked down on me as a phony person. Because they thought I will push them in the christianity which was not true, and I will have a harder time when I am a strongly Creationist - just because of Christianity sucks in their own view and in their thought. :/

PS- I think we (all of us in this thread) should not talk about the R.. :shrugs slowly:

 

[sara1981]

i dont believe in catholic!

my step-family do trust in catholic but i dont trust in catholic!

but my family always trust in christian and baptist both because im raise baptist in my lifes!

 

[pek1]

Yeah.. I agreed, too.
I only find myself is problem: Christianity has a major bad role in my own view.. also, I'm trying to show them (non-christians) a good role christian, too bad, they oftenly just looked down on me as a phony person. Because they thought I will push them in the christianity which was not true, and I will have a harder time when I am a strongly Creationist - just because of Christianity sucks in their own view and in their thought. :/

PS- I think we (all of us in this thread) should not talk about the R.. :shrugs slowly:

If you're hinting on your last line (the "R"), possibly meaning "religion," we're not discussing religion. Jesus is way, way more than a religion. In fact, He's not a religion. He's a relationship that I, Maria and others have with Him. Above Him there's no other . . . Jesus is the way Andrae Crouch - Jesus Is The Answer Lyrics - Jesus Is The Answer - Lyrics On Demand

 

[Maria]

If you're hinting on your last line (the "R"), possibly meaning "religion," we're not discussing religion. Jesus is way, way more than a religion. In fact, He's not a religion. He's a relationship that I, Maria and others have with Him. Above Him there's no other . . . Jesus is the way Andrae Crouch - Jesus Is The Answer Lyrics - Jesus Is The Answer - Lyrics On Demand

Mann_K05 is right about " R " that we are not supposed to talk about in this AD. Jesus was plucked out of this AD. Maybe, you could set up your own website somewhere where I can join ? Lol

 

[Maria]

Yeah.. I agreed, too.
I only find myself is problem: Christianity has a major bad role in my own view.. also, I'm trying to show them (non-christians) a good role christian, too bad, they oftenly just looked down on me as a phony person. Because they thought I will push them in the christianity which was not true, and I will have a harder time when I am a strongly Creationist - just because of Christianity sucks in their own view and in their thought. :/

PS- I think we (all of us in this thread) should not talk about the R.. :shrugs slowly:

Right. We are not supposed to talk about it, otherwise we will be banned for breakin' Alex' rule.

 

[KarissaMann05]

Right. We are not supposed to talk about it, otherwise we will be banned for breakin' Alex' rule.

Mann_K05 is right about " R " that we are not supposed to talk about in this AD. Jesus was plucked out of this AD. Maybe, you could set up your own website somewhere where I can join ? Lol

Correct. I dont want to be banned... EEK!
Oh, yeah! I love to join a "R" website! It's very enjoy to discuss with!

Well, let's drop it off for now.

If you're hinting on your last line (the "R"), possibly meaning "religion," we're not discussing religion. Jesus is way, way more than a religion. In fact, He's not a religion. He's a relationship that I, Maria and others have with Him. Above Him there's no other . . . Jesus is the way Andrae Crouch - Jesus Is The Answer Lyrics - Jesus Is The Answer - Lyrics On Demand

I'd like to chat about that but... let's not talk about Jesus and the religion. -_-

 

[Hwy99]

Alot of my families is Catholic, and I don't believe in it... Not much really...

 

[Jolie77]

Mod's Note:

The thread is closed. As per rules, Religion is not to be discussed here in AllDeaf.