bilateral CI kid

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I just wanted to warn you people - do not let your ego get in the way
of what's
important.


here we have an example of the CI child who was encountered by a Deaf person.
the question is - what would be the best approach in such situation?

Miss Ash did what she thought was right, and kudos to her for what she did.
Thank you Miss Ash, for letting this little boy knowing there is deaf, Deaf and ASL :ty:

Now, from my perspective I believe what she did was super great,
but I suspect once the boy goes home it will be back to same old -
practice speech etc.
That's why I believe it is important to make an impression on the parents, most of all.

Instead of stroking your ego, bickering, think of what's REALLY is the best
for these children. It's not about your having the last word, for Pete's sake.

Fuzzy
 
jillio said:
You seem to be so quick to accuse others of insulting when your very presence here is an insult to the deaf.:cool2: You need to worry more about yourself and less about anyone else.

But keep going. If anyone had any doubt that you are a nasty little troll, they won't now.
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Not trolling... Answering your questions. Replying to your accusations. Trying to ignore your insults.. Rectifying your conclusions. Addressing your insinuations..
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I am afraid this thread, predictably, is heading toward being closed.


I just wanted to warn you people - do not let your ego get in the way
of what's
important.


here we have an example of the CI child who was encountered by a Deaf person.
the question is - what would be the best approach in such situation?

Miss Ash did what she thought was right, and kudos to her for what she did.
Thank you Miss Ash, for letting this little boy knowing there is deaf, Deaf and ASL :ty:

Now, from my perspective I believe what she did was super great,
but I suspect once the boy goes home it will be back to same old -
practice speech etc.
That's why I believe it is important to make an impression on the parents, most of all.

Instead of stroking your ego, bickering, think of what's REALLY is the best
for these children. It's not about your having the last word, for Pete's sake.

Fuzzy
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Many of us have tried to educate parents like the father of the boy about the Deaf community here on AD but if their minds are set against ASL and the Deaf community, it is like hitting a brick wall. It is the medical community that is the problem with them feeding a lot of bullcrap about how being deaf is so horrible and how a CI would make their children normal and all that. Same kind of talk with hearing aides decades ago.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I am afraid this thread, predictably, is heading toward being closed.


I just wanted to warn you people - do not let your ego get in the way
of what's
important.


here we have an example of the CI child who was encountered by a Deaf person.
the question is - what would be the best approach in such situation?

Miss Ash did what she thought was right, and kudos to her for what she did.
Thank you Miss Ash, for letting this little boy knowing there is deaf, Deaf and ASL :ty:

Now, from my perspective I believe what she did was super great,
but I suspect once the boy goes home it will be back to same old -
practice speech etc.
That's why I believe it is important to make an impression on the parents, most of all.

Instead of stroking your ego, bickering, think of what's REALLY is the best
for these children. It's not about your having the last word, for Pete's sake.

Fuzzy
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Our bickering was exactly about this - the importance of deaf children meeting Deaf people and exposure to deaf culture and language. You didn't notice?

And we're trying to educate a parent as you strongly insist should be the way, which is Cloggy, on the importance of this.

What you say we should be doing, we are. Just read the past several pages.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I am afraid this thread, predictably, is heading toward being closed.


I just wanted to warn you people - do not let your ego get in the way
of what's
important.


here we have an example of the CI child who was encountered by a Deaf person.
the question is - what would be the best approach in such situation?

Miss Ash did what she thought was right, and kudos to her for what she did.
Thank you Miss Ash, for letting this little boy knowing there is deaf, Deaf and ASL :ty:

Now, from my perspective I believe what she did was super great,
but I suspect once the boy goes home it will be back to same old -
practice speech etc.
That's why I believe it is important to make an impression on the parents, most of all.

Instead of stroking your ego, bickering, think of what's REALLY is the best
for these children. It's not about your having the last word, for Pete's sake.

Fuzzy
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Actually, the only people asking questions are the audists, which means that really, there are no quesitons at all. Until the audist perspective came into it,everyone understood exactly what was going on in the encounter, and was very supportive and happy this child had been given the opportunity to see someone "Deaf Like Me."
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I am afraid this thread, predictably, is heading toward being closed.


I just wanted to warn you people - do not let your ego get in the way
of what's
important.


here we have an example of the CI child who was encountered by a Deaf person.
the question is - what would be the best approach in such situation?

Miss Ash did what she thought was right, and kudos to her for what she did.
Thank you Miss Ash, for letting this little boy knowing there is deaf, Deaf and ASL :ty:

Now, from my perspective I believe what she did was super great,
but I suspect once the boy goes home it will be back to same old -
practice speech etc.
That's why I believe it is important to make an impression on the parents, most of all.

Instead of stroking your ego, bickering, think of what's REALLY is the best
for these children. It's not about your having the last word, for Pete's sake.

Fuzzy
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You're probably right.

The child had a great experience communication with sign language and wanted to play more. The father should have been more secure, and let the kid go along..
Whatever the environment the kid is submerged in, it will go with the flow. In a Deaf environment with Deaf rolemodels, he will get rid of the Ci and grow up Deaf. In a hearing environment he will learn to hear and listen and rely on his CI. Ideally he will in time be able to make the two environments overlap and get the best of both environments..

Until that time, the parents will have to act in the best interest of the child. And sure, guidance for the parents from Deaf society might be great..
 
Deaf children with CIs CAN be involved in both worlds. Usually it is just the hearing world only. That is what's wrong with the picture.
 
I think Cloggy is actually disliking the OP and he wants this locked and is doing this with intent.
 
jillio said:
At least Ash is doing something other than following the hearing around so closely that she has a brown smudge on her nose. Here's your tissue.

And Ash is doing something that will have a positive impact on future generations of deaf kids. When you can claim the same you will have a right to criticize her approach.
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And I beside that want to talk to his father, his parents,
explain how it was hard for me to grew up mainstream and how the lack of SL
and the ties with Deaf community deeply affected me,
and how the lack of ASL still affect me even today.

How important it is for every hearing impaired child to be as fluent in ASL
and to have support of the Deaf communities as of the hearing.
maybe even more so.
And that eventually the child will chose for themselves where they want
to be.

And you Jillio, do you hurry so to be banned again for your filthy mouth,
looks like?
We are all courteous to you even if you don't deserve that,

One more of those white trash remark of yours to anybody,
and I am clicking on that triangle on the left.

Fuzzy
 
shel90 said:
Deaf children with CIs CAN be involved in both worlds. Usually it is just the hearing world only. That is what's wrong with the picture.
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They can... It's just that often there's not much "Deaf world" around in everyday life. They and their parents are surrounded by "Hearing world"...
 
posts from hell said:
I think Cloggy is actually disliking the OP and he wants this locked and is doing this with intent.
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sigh here we go...
.. and I just said "" let's not get our egos get in the way"...


No, not Cloggy. everybody has a share.

You, too, only bicker, bait and troll: "specific what?"" - hello?

Fuzzy
 
Cloggy said:
They can... It's just that often there's not much "Deaf world" around in everyday life. They and their parents are surrounded by "Hearing world"...
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my parents reconigzed that... guess what they did? they made sure I had been surrounded by the deaf growing up.

I thank them to this day...

I see deaf people EVERY...SINGLE...DAY....

Not the same person either.

Earlier today I saw a future roomie that is deaf, and an AllDeafer is coming here to meet me here to celebrate the holidays with. That along with a few other IPP (Interpreting prep program) students. Maybe 2-3 other deafies are coming too. We'll see.

That is just an example of my life. I am surrounded by signers Every...Single...Day....

I wouldn't ask for it any other way.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
sigh here we go...
.. and I just said "" let's not get our egos get in the way"...


No, not Cloggy. everybody has a share.

You, too, only bicker, bait and troll: "specific what?"" - hello?

Fuzzy
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This is a thread about CI kid, not me. Not Cloggy. Do you have anything to contribute?
 
DeafCaroline said:
Our bickering was exactly about this - the importance of deaf children meeting Deaf people and exposure to deaf culture and language. You didn't notice?

And we're trying to educate a parent as you strongly insist should be the way, which is Cloggy, on the importance of this.

What you say we should be doing, we are. Just read the past several pages.
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No, sorry, I really don't - I notice certain person insulting others in most despicable way
for having a different opinion,
talking about anything but the topic subject, etc.

hardly a sentence or two is said in polite, honest way and on the matter.


That's why I wanted to remind you what matters is the boy, and how to
ensure his parents understand.

Fuzzy
 
posts from hell said:
This is a thread about CI kid, not me. Not Cloggy. Do you have anything to contribute?
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I thought I did?
I am getting a Carpal Tunnel syndrome from repeating ad nauseam
"the boy and his father, a parent education, etc"
and now I added the latest personal bit...?

Fuzzy
 
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