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I found something interesting but try not think that has do with Obama...

This is a great example that ADA and everyone have to see this and our happening that we have to face everyday. I am not speaking about pity or ask for sorry on us. We, who, people desire to success...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpXy-UI-o4w]YouTube - You neutral?[/ame]
 
wow.... just wow..... THANKS FOR SHARING, zerodog. I did suffer in ALL scenarios in this clip. It was very discouraging.
 
I sometimes feel like Amy (not "deaf enough" and not "hearing enough").

I try to talk with some hearing people, but they don't fully understand the concept of communicating face to face and talking clearly.

I try to socialize with some deaf people, but they reject me because I'm not "deaf enough".


I also agree with Micheala about the education system. That's how it was done in my high school. A lot of deaf students had their grades modified and were not challenged enough to improve. So, they ended up graduating with education levels as low as 7th grade for Math and 3rd grade for English.

I was constantly challenged by my teachers and my parents. I even flunked a semester of English in high school, but made up for it by taking summer school. That failure taught me to take things more seriously. I did better after that. :)
 
That was a powerful video. I do feel somewhat like everyone in it.:(
 
Can someone explain to my why the girl from the deaf institute seem to be perplexed about her "A" grade? Yeah...that one kinda went over my head.:|
 
society's_child said:
Can someone explain to my why the girl from the deaf institute seem to be perplexed about her "A" grade? Yeah...that one kinda went over my head.:|
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No criticism and she knew it was not deserving of its grade.
 
society's_child said:
Can someone explain to my why the girl from the deaf institute seem to be perplexed about her "A" grade? Yeah...that one kinda went over my head.:|
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the hearing student was perplexed with deaf's paper because her paper was hard to understand - probably in ASL language.
 
Right---

Sometime, I wonder... why they choose to become teacher...
 
WOW I do felt like Amy to try to communications. I am in middle of the road. And as for grade, I always get fake grades throughout my high school. It's sucks. I hope new president will fix the problem.
 
Very interesting video. I could relate to just about all of it, except "Amy" ... After she came out of the bar she said "not fair" ... The problem I have with this particular situation is that she could not interact with the deaf using sign because she didn't know sign herself, and she had a hard time interacting with the hearing couple because she couldn't lipread everything. Well, I do get the difficulty with interacting with hearing people if they can't be lipread (I am a very good lipreader so it's rare that this is a problem for me,) but if she thinks it is not fair that she can't interact with the deaf using sign, then she DOES have an option to change that. It is not an equal-rights/ADA violation that the other deaf using sign chose not to include her in a conversation once they realized any further effort would have been painstaking. It took "Amy" and that woman a couple minutes just to get the message across that her name was Amy. So I can't feel sorry for Amy from that specific standpoint at this time. Just my 2 cents.
 
It's just why I (along with other ASL supporters) stress those people to learn ASL early so they wouldn't be left out in the teen and adult deaf community. Those do have eyes available so why didn't they learn ASL in the first place? Also we need to remember that the hearing community often doesn't give you damn if you could lipread and speak well... this video is an excellent & classic sample of such an ugly reality out there.

I do feel for them, too and hope those people start to realize that the ASL is the way to go even no matter if they end up hoh or whatever! Shel90 and others who you and I knew are the good samples hey decided to learn ASL and involve with the deaf community more ease.

Maybe those mainstream schools need to teach ASL early, too so it could be more helpful as well. (BiBi)

This video could be useful as a research tool... Send this video to the AGBAD! :lol:
 
AlleyCat said:
Very interesting video. I could relate to just about all of it, except "Amy" ... After she came out of the bar she said "not fair" ... The problem I have with this particular situation is that she could not interact with the deaf using sign because she didn't know sign herself, and she had a hard time interacting with the hearing couple because she couldn't lipread everything. Well, I do get the difficulty with interacting with hearing people if they can't be lipread (I am a very good lipreader so it's rare that this is a problem for me,) but if she thinks it is not fair that she can't interact with the deaf using sign, then she DOES have an option to change that. It is not an equal-rights/ADA violation that the other deaf using sign chose not to include her in a conversation once they realized any further effort would have been painstaking. It took "Amy" and that woman a couple minutes just to get the message across that her name was Amy. So I can't feel sorry for Amy from that specific standpoint at this time. Just my 2 cents.
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You should give 2 cents to the parents who put their child in door for long time until their parents' nest is empty. I do not understand why you feel that way because lot of people who I know who doesn't have oral or sign or none. They base on communicate is write, is that fair? As for example; she try to explore after get out the jail of parent house... My point; whoever put aside the block visual or communication on their child couldn't see that the "Deaf" who couldn't hear and still have ability to do as function as everyone else.

I am sure out there parents are expecting, "do not use sign, read my lip" they are habit same pattern reading the lip because all lip have different thin, thick, and thickness.. Some tongue flip is out and in who want to see that. Some who can't barely to see yellow rotten tooth with rotten on it. Some can't stand with breathe is horrific to stand..

After she walk out and say "not fair..." because she never have chance to learn sign in past... who fault.. parents, educated and include US! why we? Example that woman is not nice and say "what your name... what your name" I will yank her hair until she is bald, I will say.. is that wig? is that wig??
 
web730 said:
It's just why I (along with other ASL supporters) stress those people to learn ASL early so they wouldn't be left out in the teen and adult deaf community. Those do have eyes available so why didn't they learn ASL in the first place? Also we need to remember that the hearing community often doesn't give you damn if you could lipread and speak well... this video is an excellent & classic sample of such an ugly reality out there.

I do feel for them, too and hope those people start to realize that the ASL is the way to go even no matter if they end up hoh or whatever! Shel90 and others who you and I knew are the good samples hey decided to learn ASL and involve with the deaf community more ease.

Maybe those mainstream schools need to teach ASL early, too so it could be more helpful as well. (BiBi)

This video could be useful as a research tool... Send this video to the AGBAD! :lol:
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How can you point AGBAD? Make story.. I am curious... heh.. I know about their history.. it would be same idea and interest opposite hearing to hearing, can't.. do hearing to deaf only.. even hearing doesn't know communication and left their relationship in spot.. because.... it the point of issue we are face...
 
zerodog said:
You should give 2 cents to the parents who put their child in door for long time until their parents' nest is empty. I do not understand why you feel that way because lot of people who I know who doesn't have oral or sign or none. They base on communicate is write, is that fair? As for example; she try to explore after get out the jail of parent house... My point; whoever put aside the block visual or communication on their child couldn't see that the "Deaf" who couldn't hear and still have ability to do as function as everyone else.

I am sure out there parents are expecting, "do not use sign, read my lip" they are habit same pattern reading the lip because all lip have different thin, thick, and thickness.. Some tongue flip is out and in who want to see that. Some who can't barely to see yellow rotten tooth with rotten on it. Some can't stand with breathe is horrific to stand..

After she walk out and say "not fair..." because she never have chance to learn sign in past... who fault.. parents, educated and include US! why we? Example that woman is not nice and say "what your name... what your name" I will yank her hair until she is bald, I will say.. is that wig? is that wig??
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As my original post said, she DOES have an option to change that. If she never had a chance to learn sign growing up, she is an adult now. What's stopping her from taking sign language classes? Even ONE class gets her up to speed with fingerspelling and some basic signs. She could barely get out her own name "Amy." It is not our fault she, as an adult, does not take the time to improve her own situation regardless of how she was raised.
 
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VamPyroX said:
I sometimes feel like Amy (not "deaf enough" and not "hearing enough").

I try to talk with some hearing people, but they don't fully understand the concept of communicating face to face and talking clearly.

I try to socialize with some deaf people, but they reject me because I'm not "deaf enough."

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Shoot! I can name that tune and, while I'm at it, both sides of the fence criticize me for having a hearing dog with me! I think the hearies are more accepting, as the deafs in my area stick to themselves and won't talk with me because, like you VamPyroX, I speak very well.

On the other hand, Amy didn't do a very good job at reading into the conversations of the different people. I'm very tuned in on body language and the couple at the bar did a very good job communicating with her, she just needs to give it a chance.
 
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