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:fu2: That's complete corporate greed, we're losing jobs because more and more corporations are bringing jobs overseas, recently we just read news about a relay services jobs overseas. Microsoft wants to take the cap off, so they can hire more and more jobs overseas.




Microsoft Wants End To Limits On Overseas Hiring

April 28, 2005

By KOMO Staff & News Services

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates has urged the Bush administration and lawmakers to abolish immigration limits on foreign engineers who can be hired by U.S. companies, a sensitive subject among American technology workers watching their own jobs increasingly move overseas.

During an infrequent visit to lobby personally for changes in federal policy, the world's richest executive said Wednesday the government should eliminate the limit of 65,000 for overseas workers who can be hired each year by American firms under specialty "H1-B" visas aimed at drawing engineers, scientists, architects and doctors to the United States.

"The whole idea of the H1-B visa thing is, don't let too many smart people come into the country," Gates said during an invitation-only panel discussion at the Library of Congress. "The thing basically doesn't make sense."

Responding to a question about policy changes Gates would make if he were king, Gates said he "probably will get myself in trouble on this one." He endorsed more intensive study of nuclear power, improvements to U.S. schools and higher research spending by government.

"I'd certainly get rid of the H1-B visa cap," Gates added. "That's one of the easiest decisions."

Gates and other leading technology executives have pressed Congress aggressively to let them hire more foreign employees by raising visa limits, but Gates hasn't previously campaigned to abolish the immigration law entirely. Technology executives have argued they are unable to find qualified American workers, a contention disputed by U.S. labor groups and unemployed computer engineers.

"Anybody who's got good computer science training, they are not out there unemployed," Gates said. "We're just not seeing an available labor pool."

The Commerce Department undersecretary for technology, Phil Bond, cautioned Gates during his talk that unemployment among U.S. computer engineers regularly exceeds unemployment in other industries. "The politics of that are real," Bond said. Government figures showed 5.7 percent of information technology employees were out of work last year versus 5.5 percent of all workers.

The debate over U.S. technology companies hiring more foreigners occurs in the wake of the 2001 terrorism crackdown on immigration and amid increasing concerns about the theft of U.S. corporate secrets. The Bush administration has set up a counterintelligence office and published a first-ever strategy for preventing espionage against U.S. companies and the government.

"We still have to focus on border security," Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif., told Gates at his talk. "We can't be so naive as to believe there is not a very serious border security problem with which we have to contend."

Some labor groups criticized Gates' remarks.

"It's increasingly difficult for U.S.-based programmers to find work," said Marcus Courtney, organizer of the Seattle-based Washington Alliance of Technology Workers. "There is no support in the American public for completely abolishing the H1-B visa program and allowing companies to import foreign labor for these high-paying jobs."
 
It has nuthin to do with government!

Its more of MONEY issue... We all wanted everything CHEAP. Who wants to pay more for something? Same principle, here labor rate is something like ten dollars an hour verses people overseas willing to get a dollar an hour job,. Corporation ultimate goal is what? MAKE MONEY! That is it! So, paying american at high dollars HURT their earning, therefore hiring someobdy overseas do the same thing for fraction of the cost, viola more money in pocket.

As of right now, we are having problem with WTO (World Trade Organization), they are now fine US government for jack up tariffs on imported goods (Mainly steel at this time). That is where the problem we are facing... WTO actually applausing china for aggressive effort for global exporting!!! Do we have control over WTO? Not really!

I really don't have solid or good answer to our crisis. One possible is deflation, and that CAN hurt all of us. Other possible solution is customer unions, where we all can boycott products and this is the most effective way. But NO American wants to get involved. That is really sad. Increasing tax isn't going to work.


jazzy said:
I wonder if they have something to hide from our government?
 
Welcome to Capitalism world.

diehardbiker65, blame WTO? Ok, I think I have seen everything but seem that I don't. There is a good solution to this issue. Alter the Free Trade Policy to stop the oversea jobs.

Allow me to explain what I mean... In Peru, they paid one worker $0.07 per a shirt while they are selling a shirt for $14.99 in America. It is not even about so-called 'making money'.... It is about huge profits. It cannot be called, "job". "Slavery" is a perfect term for these sweat labors.

Edited: Correction (customer to worker)

Second Edited: Recommend anyone to pick this wonderful book: The Corporation by Joel Bakan. That's where I got the information about Peru. There is much, much more about these Capitalism Corporations in this book. Pick it up and read.

sequoias said:
That's complete corporate greed
I completely agree with you.
 
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