Affluenza Defense keep Kid out jail for killing 4 people

ambrosia said:
I haven't read it but wasn't he one of the kids riding in the truck with him? As far as I'm concerned he is just he shouldn't get anything. The driver wasn't drinking by himself, all those kids were partying, nobody made the other kid drink and ride in his truck.....if he was the one with truck he would have been driving and the driver could have been in the back and paralyzed. They should get nothing. IMO the only victims were those on the side of the road, not anybody in the vehicle that killed them.
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It doesn't matter. It's the law that the insurer is responsible for passengers' medical bills. It's called LIABILITY whether they were drunk or not.
 
CrazyPaul said:
It doesn't matter. It's the law that the insurer is responsible for passengers' medical bills. It's called LIABILITY whether they were drunk or not.
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His medical bills are 20 million dollars? Hmmmmmm
 
ambrosia said:
His medical bills are 20 million dollars? Hmmmmmm
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It might include pain and suffering, lifetime care, and loss of potential income. Pain and suffering is calculated as a multiple of the actual medical expenses. Medical expenses include doctors, meds, therapy, home health worker, home nursing, equipment and transportation.

It can add up.
 
ambrosia said:
I haven't read it but wasn't he one of the kids riding in the truck with him? As far as I'm concerned he is just he shouldn't get anything. The driver wasn't drinking by himself, all those kids were partying, nobody made the other kid drink and ride in his truck.....if he was the one with truck he would have been driving and the driver could have been in the back and paralyzed. They should get nothing. IMO the only victims were those on the side of the road, not anybody in the vehicle that killed them.
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Who know maybe the judge got paid off by the rich kid's dad.
 
Reba said:
It might include pain and suffering, lifetime care, and loss of potential income. Pain and suffering is calculated as a multiple of the actual medical expenses. Medical expenses include doctors, meds, therapy, home health worker, home nursing, equipment and transportation.

It can add up.
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His pain and suffering his own fault though. This kid wasn't one of the people on the side of the road, he was partying with the driver, and got in the truck of his own accord. Yeah the drivers insurance should cover his medical bills, although there are caps for that. As far as I'm concerned he is not a victim if this kid, he is the victim of his own bad choices.
 
ambrosia said:
His pain and suffering his own fault though. This kid wasn't one of the people on the side of the road, he was partying with the driver, and got in the truck of his own accord. Yeah the drivers insurance should cover his medical bills, although there are caps for that. As far as I'm concerned he is not a victim if this kid, he is the victim of his own bad choices.
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It's probably because of the insurance cap that they're suing deeper pockets.

The law makes the driver liable in most cases. I don't know if the defense attorney can try to mitigate the amount of damages by using your points of victim contribution.

Moral responsibility and legal liability are not always the same thing.
 
Reba said:
It's probably because of the insurance cap that they're suing deeper pockets.

The law makes the driver liable in most cases. I don't know if the defense attorney can try to mitigate the amount of damages by using your points of victim contribution.

Moral responsibility and legal liability are not always the same thing.
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Too true. Unfortunately
 
ambrosia said:
His medical bills are 20 million dollars? Hmmmmmm
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Sergio’s family estimates that they have accrued more than $1million in medical bills over the past six months,
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VERY expensive!

By looking at the picture of him, he will never go back to normal while the driver is fine. Tsk, tsk.
 
CrazyPaul said:
VERY expensive!

By looking at the picture of him, he will never go back to normal while the driver is fine. Tsk, tsk.
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You realize he could have just as easily been the one driving right?
 
ambrosia said:
You realize he could have just as easily been the one driving right?
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If if if question... can you predict that if he drove, he would kill people like the actual driver did or get everybody home safely? Accidents = unpredictable.
 
CrazyPaul said:
It doesn't matter. It's the law that the insurer is responsible for passengers' medical bills. It's called LIABILITY whether they were drunk or not.
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There is cap on liability insurance, for example, the insurance could pay about $100,000 maximum so if after $100,000 so victim's families could sue this teen or his parent in civil court, or could be restitution from criminal court.
 
Foxrac said:
There is cap on liability insurance, for example, the insurance could pay about $100,000 maximum so if after $100,000 so victim's families could sue this teen or his parent in civil court, or could be restitution from criminal court.
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YES! But Amber said that the victim doesn't deserve it because he was drunk, too. WTF?
 
ambrosia said:
You realize he could have just as easily been the one driving right?
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The rich kid was driving the truck , , he admitted he was drunk and lost control of the truck. It's right in the link I posted. I just can't believe the judge when along with the 'affluenza defense. I feel horrible for the victims love ones.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
The rich kid was driving the truck , , he admitted he was drunk and lost control of the truck. It's right in the link I posted. I just can't believe the judge when along with the 'affluenza defense. I feel horrible for the victims love ones.
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I know, I read it. I've also read other articles about it, all the kids he were with were drunk. They'd stolen beer from Walmart and that kid was sitting in the bed if the truck. The kids he were with were not innocent bystanders. That kid just happened to be the one with truck, the same thing could have happened if any of them had been the driver if they had been the one with a vehicle. It'd be different if he was in a different vehicle and was hurt. But no, he was a party to this, he was a participant so no I'm not crying this kid a river, he was just a dumb as the guy driving.
 
ambrosia said:
I know, I read it. I've also read other articles about it, all the kids he were with were drunk. They'd stolen beer from Walmart and that kid was sitting in the bed if the truck. The kids he were with were not innocent bystanders. That kid just happened to be the one with truck, the same thing could have happened if any of them had been the driver if they had been the one with a vehicle. It'd be different if he was in a different vehicle and was hurt. But no, he was a party to this, he was a participant so no I'm not crying this kid a river, he was just a dumb as the guy driving.
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Do you have a car insurance? If so, please read your policy carefully since it will tell you differently.
 
You are not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's not going to get any money. A person could break into your house, trip on a loose floor board break their neck and sue you because you didn't have your house in proper repair. Your home owners ins would cover it. But that doesn't make it right now does it? I'm saying I disagree with the idea of suing because it's his own dumbass fault for getting drunk and getting into a vehicle that's going to be driven by someone he knows is drunk. I don't think he deserves it, I'm not saying the law won't allow it.
 
ambrosia said:
You are not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's not going to get any money. A person could break into your house, trip on a loose floor board break their neck and sue you because you didn't have your house in proper repair. Your home owners ins would cover it. But that doesn't make it right now does it?
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No, it doesn't cover a burglar's medical bills. :laugh2:

ambrosia said:
I'm saying I disagree with the idea of suing because it's his own dumbass fault for getting drunk and getting into a vehicle that's going to be driven by someone he knows is drunk. I don't think he deserves it, I'm not saying the law won't allow it.
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OK, that's your opinion. If they win the lawsuit, would you be shocked?
 
CrazyPaul said:
No, it doesn't cover a burglar's medical bills. :laugh2:

OK, that's your opinion. If they win the lawsuit, would you be shocked?
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Yes it would, yes home owners have been sued by people who broke into their homes, and won.

No I wouldn't be. You are not understanding. I have not said they can't sue, that they're not allowed to sue or even that they won't win. Me saying I don't think he should get anything is not the same as saying he won't. Get it?
 
ambrosia said:
Yes it would, yes home owners have been sued by people who broke into their homes, and won.
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Are you sure?

ambrosia said:
No I wouldn't be. You are not understanding. I have not said they can't sue, that they're not allowed to sue or even that they won't win. Me saying I don't think he should get anything is not the same as saying he won't. Get it?
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I get it that you have already decided that he doesn't deserve it but it doesn't matter because you are not a juror.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Are you sure?


I get it that you have already decided that he doesn't deserve it but it doesn't matter because you are not a juror.
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Yes Paul, it's called negligence and liability although most cases don't make it to trial because people settle. *just like this case probably will never make it it trial because they'll settle* When you are aware that something on your property requires maintenance and is a danger, say a roof, and you don't a) fix it or b) warn people about it then that is negligence. If someone is hurt, even a burglar which in civil cases is classed as a trespasser, because of your negligence than you are held liable. Yes, that's how it works. If the case does make it trial they might not win, just like if this case makes it to trial they might not win.

What's your point? Why are you arguing with me about my opinion about whether or not this kid is responsible for his own behavior?
 
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