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Panel Approves $10B Cut in Health Care
By KEVIN FREKING, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 20 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A Republican-led effort to slow spending on health care programs for the poor, elderly and disabled survived a stern test in the Senate Tuesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051026/ap_on_go_co/senate_entitlement_cuts

That chamber's Finance Committee, voting along party lines, approved legislation that would trim overall spending on Medicare and Medicaid by about $10 billion over five years. The committee's 11 Republicans supported the legislation. The committee's nine Democrats opposed it.

In doing so, Democrats cited what they believed was inadequate assistance for victims of Hurricane Katrina. In particular, Democrats wanted to temporarily extend Medicaid coverage to thousands of people currently ineligible for the program even though they have lost their jobs and their home.

"Eight weeks ago yesterday, Katrina made landfall. Eight weeks ago today, the levees broke. And eight weeks later, I cannot in good conscience join in cutting health care, when Congress has left the health care needs of Katrina's victims unaddressed," said Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, the top Democrat on the Finance Committee.

Republicans said they weren't thrilled with the bill, either, mainly because they said it did not go far enough to overhaul Medicaid, the nation's health insurance program for the poor. But they rejected the notion that beneficiaries would get a reduced level of care as a result of the changes they approved.

"We are not cutting health care services to the beneficiaries," said Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa. "We have squeezed some fraud out. We have squeezed providers."

The legislation reflected the difficult balancing act facing the committee's chairman, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.

Grassley had to maintain support from all 11 committee Republican to ensure the measure's passage. But some wanted more significant reductions in Medicaid than others were willing to accept.

In the end, the legislation the panel approved Tuesday would reduce Medicare spending by about $5.8 billion over five years and Medicaid by about $4.3 billion during that time.

Even with those reductions, however, the Congressional Budget Office projects that financing of the two programs would grow substantially over the coming five years.

The CBO predicts Medicaid spending will increase from about $192 billion in 2006 to about $260 billion in 2010. Medicare spending will increase from about $385 billion in the coming year to about $525 billion in 2010. The increases reflect growing health care costs and a growing number of people becoming eligible for the programs.

This week, several committees in both chambers are considering legislation that would reduce spending on programs over which they have jurisdiction. Their contribution will be made part of an overall bill that would reflect a congressional budget blueprint passed in April.

The blueprint called for $35 billion in spending cuts and $70 billion in tax cuts, a point that Sen. Kent Conrad (news, bio, voting record), D-N.D., emphasized when he said that legislation billed as reducing the deficit would actually increase it.

"It's almost as if words have lost their meaning," said Conrad, another Finance Committee member.

But Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, said he viewed the legislation as not cutting taxes, but as preventing tax increases that would occur if Congress does not act.

Lawmakers filed 131 amendments to the legislation, but all of the amendments that came up for a vote Tuesday were defeated.

The House Energy and Commerce Committee is expected to take up legislation Thursday that would reduce Medicaid spending by about $11 billion over five years.

Meanwhile, Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, proposed a change in the broader budget bill that would curb spending for student loans by about $14-15 billion over five years, mostly by cutting subsidies to lenders, but also by changing the interest rate structure for students.

"We're squeezing the lenders pretty good," said Boehner, chairman of the House Education and Workforce Committee.

The Boehner plan also would raise about $6 billion through overhauling the federal pension insurance system. The bill would immediately increase per-employee pension premiums paid to the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. from $19 to $30. It also would charge a total of $3,750 in exit fees for companies emerging from bankruptcy that shed their pension responsibilities while in bankruptcy.

Separately, House Agriculture Committee Chairman Robert Goodlatte, R-Va., has drafted a plan to cut the food stamp program by $1.1 billion over five years. It would tighten eligibility requirements, leading to a drop of perhaps 300,000 working families from food stamp rolls. It also would make legal immigrants wait 10 years instead of five to be eligible for the program and limit benefits for able-bodied beneficiaries without children.

The plan also would cut $3.1 billion from farm programs and would not extend a hotly contested program that provides income payments to dairy farmers.
 
whew!!! Glad I got my college degrees.

Republicans Cut Several Programs in Budget By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
28 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - House Republicans voted to cut student loan subsidies, child support enforcement :ugh: and aid to firms hurt by unfair trade practices as various committees scrambled to piece together $50 billion in budget cuts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051026/ap_on_go_co/congress_budget_cuts

More politically difficult votes — to cut Medicaid, food stamps and farm subsidies — are on tap Thursday as more panels weigh in on the bill. It was originally intended to cut $35 billion in spending over five years, but after pressure from conservatives, GOP leaders directed committees to cut another $15 billion to help pay the cost of hurricane recovery. :ugh:

President Bush met with House and Senate GOP leaders and said he was pleased with the progress. He also appeared to endorse a plan by House Speaker Dennis Hastert's plan for an across-the-board cut in agency budgets, perhaps including the Pentagon, by the end of the year.

"I encourage Congress to push the envelope when it comes to cutting spending," Bush said.

Dozens of issues are at play as Republicans in both the House and Senate cobble together the sprawling budget bill. The measure is the first in eight years to take aim at the automatic growth of federal spending programs such as Medicaid and Medicare.

In the Senate, the Budget Committee voted along party lines to bundle together the work of eight legislative committees into a bill that will be debated next week by the full Senate. The Congressional Budget Office said the Senate measure would save $39 billion over five years — $4 billion more than the budget passed last spring.

Pressed to produce more savings than the Senate, House committees took more political chances in drafting the $50 billion House plan, which has become a rallying point for the GOP's conservative wing and its anxiety about hurricane relief worsening the deficit.

The House Education and the Workforce panel, for example, was told to generate $18 billion in savings over five years. On Wednesday it approved squeezing lenders in the student loan program and raising premiums to employers for government insurance of their employees' and retirees' pension benefits.

It also imposes new fees on students who default on loans or consolidate them and higher fees on parents who borrow on behalf of their college-age children. California Rep. George Miller, the senior Democrat on the panel, called the package a "raid on student aid."

The Ways and Means Committee approved on a party-line vote a plan by its chairman, Rep. Bill Thomas, R-Calif., with so many difficult-to-swallow provisions that lawmakers and aides whispered about whether the intent was to make it hard for GOP leaders to win its passage in the full House.

It includes $3.8 billion in cuts to child support enforcement. Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., charged that Republicans were appealing to the "constituency of deadbeat dads." :ugh:

The bill also would tighten eligibility standards for foster care assistance in nine states and delay some lump-sum payments to very poor and elderly beneficiaries of Social Security's Supplemental Security Income program.

"It was abundantly clear that Thomas didn't want to do this stuff," said an aide to a Ways and Means Republican who spoke on condition of anonymity but cited meetings that occurred behind the scenes. House GOP leaders this month directed Thomas to produce $8 billion in savings, eight times the original target he was assigned.

The Ways and Means plan also would eliminate payments to industries harmed by unfair foreign trade practices. Those payments come from the proceeds of duties on foreign goods "dumped" into the U.S. market.

The House Resources Committee approved a controversial plan to raise $2.4 billion in lease revenues by permitting oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. :Ohno:

Minority Democrats opposed virtually everything that was done, saying Wednesday's actions are part of a broader GOP budget blueprint that also calls for $106 billion in new tax cuts over the next five years.

"They are targeting programs for poor people to pay for tax cuts for rich people," said Rep. David Obey , D-Wis. Once those tax cuts are passed, Obey added, deficits will be increasing again. :deal:
 
i heard about it and my disability organization is fighting to get medicaid to increase budgets.
 
How about we PULL our troops out of Iraq and then make HUGE cuts to the military and stuff like NASA? Cutting funding for bombs and billion dollar toilets would work much better!
 
well rich people know that they need us poor people to buy their products.

So we need to boycott... and tell rich people that we ain't buying
their stuff anymore.

I ain't going to no more movies, I ain't going to read anymore books,
will buy store brand foods, no more SUVs, no more music CDs, and
everything else to make rich people richer...

Since they don't care about us poor people.
 
deafdyke said:
How about we PULL our troops out of Iraq and then make HUGE cuts to the military and stuff like NASA? Cutting funding for bombs and billion dollar toilets would work much better!

and if terrorists attack us again, we should use only Swat team to
track down bad people who responsible for this in the USA
and not go oversea looking for terrorists.

And make it tough for immigrants to come here.

Yeah, we don't need to study Mars, that is stupid.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
well rich people know that they need us poor people to buy their products.

So we need to boycott... and tell rich people that we ain't buying
their stuff anymore.

I ain't going to no more movies, I ain't going to read anymore books,
will buy store brand foods, no more SUVs, no more music CDs, and
everything else to make rich people richer...

Since they don't care about us poor people.
REMEMBER TO THINK POSITIVE!
 
and if terrorists attack us again, we should use only Swat team to
track down bad people who responsible for this in the USA
and not go oversea looking for terrorists.
FYI, most terrorism (90%) is DOMESTIC terrorism. A fedral building/fedral employee has more risk of terrorism from Christian Idenity or the Patriot Movement then it does from scawy foriegn terrorists!
And make it tough for immigrants to come here
What's wrong with immgrants? YOUR family immigrated here....so did almost everyone else's family. Without immigration this country wouldn't exist!
 
deafdyke said:
FYI, most terrorism (90%) is DOMESTIC terrorism. A fedral building/fedral employee has more risk of terrorism from Christian Idenity or the Patriot Movement then it does from scawy foriegn terrorists!
Do you have some facts to back up your statement? Where did you get that 90% figure? Government statistics? Intelligence reports? Wacko website? Thin air?

What's wrong with immgrants? YOUR family immigrated here....so did almost everyone else's family. Without immigration this country wouldn't exist!
There is nothing "wrong" with immigrants who want to come to our country to live free and work hard. Illegal immigration is the problem. We don't need people illegally crossing our borders to commit crimes.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
well rich people know that they need us poor people to buy their products.

So we need to boycott... and tell rich people that we ain't buying
their stuff anymore.

I ain't going to no more movies, I ain't going to read anymore books,
will buy store brand foods, no more SUVs, no more music CDs, and
everything else to make rich people richer...

Since they don't care about us poor people.
I think you have it backwards. Rich people provide jobs for "poor" people. Rich people buy the products that "poor" people make. Rich people pay the big taxes that pay for the social programs that support "poor" people.
 
Rich people pay the big taxes that pay for the social programs that support "poor" people.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! No, they DON"T.....Ever hear of tax cuts and trickle down theory?
Oh, and I did not come up with those stats myself. I'm gonna have to do a bit of research to cite it, but one of the organizations formed to study terrorism by the govt did research and found out that 90% of terrorism incidents are DOMESTIC rather then the result of a rabid Koran follower.
Oh, and the illgal immigrant thing....man that is such a non-issue I can't even begin to cricicize it...... most illegal immigrants are the ones who are so poor that they feel they have no other choice but to illgally immigrate.
 
deafdyke said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! No, they DON"T.....Ever hear of tax cuts and trickle down theory?
The top-earning 25 percent of taxpayers (AGI over $57,343) earned 64.9 percent of nation’s income, but they paid more than four out of every five dollars collected by the federal income tax (83.9 percent).

For the full breakdown, go to:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/250.html

Where are your statistics?


Oh, and I did not come up with those stats myself. I'm gonna have to do a bit of research to cite it...
I'm sure you will.


...but one of the organizations formed to study terrorism by the govt did research and found out that 90% of terrorism incidents are DOMESTIC rather then the result of a rabid Koran follower.
I have been doing my own searching for such statistics but I have not found any yet.


Oh, and the illgal immigrant thing....man that is such a non-issue I can't even begin to cricicize it...... most illegal immigrants are the ones who are so poor that they feel they have no other choice but to illgally immigrate.
It doesn't matter how the illegal "immigrants" "feel" about their choices; we need to protect our country. How many other countries allow illegal "immigrants" to swarm over their borders?

There have been many, many poor immigrants in the past, and they entered our country legally.

Why is it so awful to require immigrants to enter our country in an orderly, safe process?
 
Yup, we need to sew up the seive that is the state of our borders.
 
How many other countries allow illegal "immigrants" to swarm over their borders?
Probaly a lot..... you just don't hear about it b/c our media doesn't talk about it.
ANd there's nothing wrong with ensuring that people who want to immigrate here aren't serial killers or child molesters or whatever.....
but I mean.....when's the last time you heard about an illegal immigrant being a serial killer or a child molester? Most illegal immigrants are folks who are EXTREMELY severely poor....like they see working in a fish processing plant or a motel as a step up. And, I mean some of the illgal immigrants might have been smuggled here illegally or they are suffering human rights abuses in their native country so they feel they have to go illegal......it's not as simple as *OH NO! ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are all dirty unwashed people who are coming here to steal our jobs!*
 
Few days ago, I've read newspaper about people under medicare or medicaid getting viagra.... BIG SMH!
 
deafdyke said:
Probaly a lot..... you just don't hear about it b/c our media doesn't talk about it.
Do you ever back up your statements with facts?


ANd there's nothing wrong with ensuring that people who want to immigrate here aren't serial killers or child molesters or whatever.....
If you don't regulate the borders, HOW do you prevent "serial killers or child molestors"?

but I mean.....when's the last time you heard about an illegal immigrant being a serial killer or a child molester?
Often. Our prisons are full of illegal immigrants who have been convicted of these crimes. My local newspaper at least once a week a story about an illegal immigrant commiting a serious crime. Many of them don't get caught because they flee back over the border after they commit the crime.
 
INCARCERATION COSTS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS
State and local jurisdictions receive partial compensation under the federal State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAAP) established in 1994 to help defray the costs of incarceration of "undocumented," aliens who are serving time for a felony conviction or at least two misdemeanors.

The recent SCAAP amounts that have been disbursed in the program were:


FY’99—$573 million
FY’00—$569 million
FY’01—$535 million
FY’02—$543 million
FY’03—$240 million
FY’04—$282 million

The amount of SCAAP awards has been declining in both total distributions and even more as a share of the state’s expenses, which have been rising. In FY’99 the states and local jurisdictions received less than 39 percent of their itemized expenses. SCAAP data from FY’02 indicate that the level of compensation had fallen to less than 20 percent of expenses. This suggests that total outlays may be near $3 billion. However, the shortfall may be much more because, according to House Concurrent Resolution 95, which passed the U.S. Senate on March 26, 2003, the "costs associated with the incarceration of undocumented criminal aliens" cost state and local governments more than $13 billion in FY'02. Meanwhile, SCAAP data indicate that the amount of illegal alien detention increased between FY'99 and FY'02 by about 45 percent (from about 25.3 thousand prisoner years to about 36.6 thousand prisoner years, while compensation decreased by five percent, and it has decreased much more since then.


http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_research9605
 
MEDICAL COSTS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS
Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, hospitals with emergency rooms are required to treat and stabilize patients with emergency medical needs regardless whether or not they are in the country legally or whether they are able to pay for the treatment. Congress in 2003 enacted an appropriation of $250 million per year (for 4 years) to help offset some of the costs due to use of this service by illegal aliens. These costs under Medicaid and Medicare were estimated in 1997 by Dr. Huddle of Rice University at $3.2 billion (see The Cost of Immigration ). With the size of the illegal alien population more than doubled since that time and the increase in the cost of medical care, the costs today would be much higher.

Updated 2/05

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_research9605
 
New Brunswick

Convicted rapist and burglar Ricardo Cepates was sentenced to 139 years in prison Friday, marking the latest chapter in a story of multiple accusations dating from September 2001.

Cepates, a 33-year-old Honduran native, has been accused of multiple episodes of aggravated sexual assault and robbery from crimes.

He was sentenced Friday for crimes committed between September 2001 and December 2003. He had was prosecuted for those charges of kidnapping, aggravated sexual assault, armed robbery, burglary, endangering the welfare of a child, sexual assault, terrorist threats and possession of a weapon, said Middlesex County District Attorney Assistant Prosecutor Andrea Carter.

The two leading charges - kidnapping and aggravated sexual assault - amounted to 50 years alone, Carter said.

Cepates was arrested in a music store backroom where he was found attempting to rape another woman, Carter said. The attempted rape that resulted in Cepates' arrest and conviction was not included in the charges.

After his arrest, detectives linked five other sexual assaults that occurred between September 2001 and December 2003 to Cepates....

http://www.dailytargum.com/media/pa...ml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dailytargum.com

Cepates had been in the hands of police before.

In September, 1998, the 33-year-old Honduran national had been arrested in New Brunswick for grabbing a woman on the street and holding a knife to her throat.

Despite a previous deportation order, his continued status as an illegal immigrant and a judge’s specific instructions that he be forced to report to federal immigration authorities, Cepates was never detained by federal immigration authorities or deported.

Instead, he pleaded guilty in 1999 to weapons charges and was released on probation, setting the stage for a series of rapes prosecutors said began two years later and kept the city on edge for more than two years.

Cepates’ case is the latest in a string of high-profile incidents highlighting what has long been described as a dysfunctional relationship between local police departments and federal immigration agencies. The whereabouts of about 80,000 people who have been convicted of a crime and ordered deported are unknown to authorities, according to federal statistics....

http://www.amren.com/news/news04/03/25/brokensystem.html
 
Arrest made in Spotsylvania beating

By Minnie Roh
NBC12 News
Thursday, August 18, 2005

An illegal alien, Jose Ramirez, 28, has been arrested and charged with the brutal beating of a 15-year-old girl who allegedly ignored his whistles at a construction site in Spotsylvania County.

Police say the 15 year old girl suffered a broken nose, bone fracture to the right side of her face and received approximately 30 stitches to her face and back of her head.

Police say the 15 year old girl was walking by on a road, when Ramirez, who was working on a construction project at a nearby townhouse, whistled at her.

Witnesses told police the next thing they saw, Ramirez appeared enraged and took off running after the girl. He allegedly began to beat her on her face and head.

Ramirez then fled into a nearby wooded area. Short while later, authorities found Ramirez a few blocks away. Ramirez, an illegal alien from El Salvador, allegedly resisted arrest but was finally subdued.

Ramirez is facing aggravated malicious wounding charges as well as abduction with intent to defile. Both charges carry a possible life sentence.

http://www.nbc12.com/servlet/Satell...BT_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784522333
 
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