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Michael Russnow: Political Correctness on TV Sometimes Goes Too Far: Is it Really Better to Be Deaf? - Entertainment on The Huffington Post

Political Correctness on TV Sometimes Goes Too Far: Is it Really Better to Be Deaf?
Posted April 17, 2008 | 07:30 PM (EST)


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I was at a Hallmark Hall of Fame reception the other night, where they presented Sweet Nothing in My Ear starring Jeff Daniels and Marlee Matlin. The story concerned the trials of a "mixed" marriage -- Daniels could hear and Matlin could not -- in which the main conflict was whether their deaf child should receive a cochlear implant.

I was baffled by the struggle, which struck me as a no-brainer. True, I can hear, but I don't feel I am prejudiced when I say that it is not better to be deaf as some of the characters in this film appear to say. I can understand where there might be fear as to whether the implant will build up the boy's hope or whether he will easily adapt to the hearing world with speech patterns that might not appear up to par without loads of practice.

I can also understand, as in the case of a recent Cold Case episode, the portrayal of resentful family members or friends who might be concerned that once the boy could hear he might look down on those in his circle. It doesn't excuse their bias, but from a human nature standpoint it's an imaginable possibility.

That said, and although there was an attempt to balance the two sides, I cannot for the life of me see how any reasoned person would not want to improve, dare I say fix, a young boy's life. As science has greatly improved the surgical techniques, which are apparently not available to all deaf candidates, when a subject is determined to benefit greatly from such an implant there is no way that anyone will convince me that the absence of sound will better that person's life.

Deafness is a handicap. It does not mean that a deaf person cannot have a constructive, meaningful and successful life. Deafness is not as limiting as, let's say, blindness or paralysis, in that the person is more easily able to function and get around without much assistance, in particular those who can use sign language, lip read and actually talk -- as does Matlin in real life.

And I certainly would urge everyone -- not just the deaf community -- to instill a positive self in those who cannot hear and promote a life fulfillment that encourages people to overcome their limitations by circumventing methods which strengthen the abilities they have, whether physical, creative or intellectual. In so doing, I would also use educational and communication means to tear down stereotypes so that discrimination is not pervasive.

But to bury one's head in the sand like an ostrich, to resent those who are eligible for implants and to deny the possibilities of a fuller, yes fuller, life to utilize all of our senses is extraordinary. The Daniels character said he wanted his son to experience all that nature intended, such as hearing music or to be able to be warned verbally if he were in danger. The Matlin character responded defensively that "nature" had made him deaf, as if this were a sign that deafness is normal, which it is not.

If someone were paralyzed, whether by birth or due to polio, such as Franklin Roosevelt, we should provide support and help him to achieve what he might, and, as in the case of Roosevelt, that was quite a lot. However, if a new surgical technique might rid the paralysis or at the least help greatly -- even if the aftermath was imperfect, such as the person could get out of his wheelchair but might walk with a limp -- is there much question which road would be chosen?

If someone were blind and a cure for glaucoma was discovered, would his blind friends say, "Don't do it," as in it's better to be the way we are?

And yet because the deaf community is not as "helpless" as the aforementioned types and have formed cultural alliances and other bonds to get them through their lives in a meaningful fashion there appears to be a backlash against those who are able to benefit from the scientific advances. A sort of "deaf is better," which is as ridiculous as those in our society who try to put folks in the deaf community down.

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Just more of a hearing perspective from a pathological viewpoint.

First of all, noone says it is "better to be deaf." What many of us do say, and what many prove through the way they live thier lives on a daily basis, is that it is not necessarily better to be hearing. It is not a question of one being better than the other. It is about both being equally acceptable, and "normal" depending upon the individual's circumstances. The fact that the writer of this article reduces it to terms of one hearing status being "better" than another is simply evidence of the pathological view they have taken.

I strongly object to the reference of deafness as a "handicap." It is perhaps a "handicap" in the autor's eyes, but then,the author has never lived with deafness, quite obviously has no contact with deaf individuals, and is locked into her own ethnocentric viewpoint of what it is to live without sound.

To refer to those that use a wheel chair, or those with visual impairments as helpless is just downright offensive.

Once again, we have someone who is sitting in their ivory tower, relishing in the "perfection" of their own existence, pronouncing judgement on something he has no experience with.
 
That's is my concern with the public's misinformed views on CIs that deaf people who dont get CIs will be disrespected right on the spot for "choosing" to remain deaf. Just like with my hubby's coworker's comment on why I wont get a CI to improve myself.

I pay taxes, own a house, have a job, have two wonderful children, and dont break any laws but yet, I need an "attitude" adjustment about my deafness?

This is my answer to those people with those kinds of views...:fu:
 
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I strongly object to the reference of deafness as a "handicap." It is perhaps a "handicap" in the autor's eyes, but then,the author has never lived with deafness, quite obviously has no contact with deaf individuals, and is locked into her own ethnocentric viewpoint of what it is to live without sound.
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On the other hand, some of us who have "experienced it" still call a spade a spade. No sweat off my back. I KNOW what I'm missing. It bothers me not a wit that I would be considered "handicap". Does it mean I'm incomplete? No, it just means there are some things I can't do like the prevailing majority. There is not a level playing field as some would like to believe exists. I simply have to adapt to my circumstances whatever they may be. That is true contentment. Who is to tell me otherwise?

I can agree they who have it and not experience the lack thereof really don't understand the difficulties and challenges and possibly the contentment (gasp!) of being in that state.
 
On the other hand, some of us who have "experienced it" still call a spade a spade. No sweat off my back. I KNOW what I'm missing. It bothers me not a wit that I would be considered "handicap". Does it mean I'm incomplete? No, it just means there are some things I can't do like the prevailing majority. There is not a level playing field as some would like to believe exists. I simply have to adapt to my circumstances whatever they may be. That is true contentment. Who is to tell me otherwise?

I can agree they who have it and not experience the lack thereof really don't understand the difficulties and challenges and possibly the contentment (gasp!) of being in that state.

Agreed. I would suggest, too, that your definition of "handicap" is probably different from the majority of society. I would say, from what you have said, that you would view handicap and disability and pretty much the same construct. Unfortunately, the hearing population quite often sees "handicapped" as being incapapble.
 
That's is my concern with the public's misinformed views on CIs that deaf people who dont get CIs will be disrespected right on the spot for "choosing" to remain deaf. Just like with my hubby's coworker's comment on why I wont get a CI to improve myself.

I pay taxes, own a house, have a job, have two wonderful children, and dont break any laws but yet, I need an "attitude" adjustment about my deafness?

This is my answer to those people with those kinds of views...:fu:

Good answer!
 
On the other hand, some of us who have "experienced it" still call a spade a spade. No sweat off my back. I KNOW what I'm missing. It bothers me not a wit that I would be considered "handicap". Does it mean I'm incomplete? No, it just means there are some things I can't do like the prevailing majority. There is not a level playing field as some would like to believe exists. I simply have to adapt to my circumstances whatever they may be. That is true contentment. Who is to tell me otherwise?

I can agree they who have it and not experience the lack thereof really don't understand the difficulties and challenges and possibly the contentment (gasp!) of being in that state.

That's your decision and I respect that..however, if u and I were to apply for the same job posiition with the same company, who would get hired? That's what I am concerned with if people out there will view deaf people with implants as more capable than those without. Just wondering out loud here....
 
.. Unfortunately, the hearing population quite often sees "handicapped" as being incapapble.

Good point!

Shrugs...It really doesn't matter and not worth getting all upset about it. I mean it all comes down to one's world (meaning who your friends are...heck that is even true for the hearing :D ) I learned a long, long time ago in a galaxy far away (er...couldn't resist) that there is always somebody who doesn't understand you...
 
That's your decision and I respect that..however, if u and I were to apply for the same job posiition with the same company, who would get hired? That's what I am concerned with if people out there will view deaf people with implants as more capable than those without. Just wondering out loud here....

Unfortunately, I can tell you most of the time it would be the person who utilizes a CI very well.
 
Unfortunately, I can tell you most of the time it would be the person who utilizes a CI very well.

Right...that's why the hearing society is a burden on us because we have to adapt to meet their needs. Even growing up oral, despite mastering excellent oral and lipreading skills, I was still discriminated or not good enough so if I get a CI and dont benefit from it, I will be discriminated. There are demands made by the parents of deaf students to have a hearing teacher who can sign and use spoken language instead of a teacher who is deaf so even in the deaf ed field, teachers who are deaf are starting to get discriminated against. Maybe I will lose my teaching job because I am deaf even though the job itself is working with teaching deaf students.

Makes me wonder if the Deaf community should see implants as a neccessary evil?
 
Michael Russnow: Political Correctness on TV Sometimes Goes Too Far: Is it Really Better to Be Deaf? - Entertainment on The Huffington Post

Political Correctness on TV Sometimes Goes Too Far: Is it Really Better to Be Deaf?
Posted April 17, 2008 | 07:30 PM (EST)



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I was at a Hallmark Hall of Fame reception the other night, where they presented Sweet Nothing in My Ear starring Jeff Daniels and Marlee Matlin. The story concerned the trials of a "mixed" marriage -- Daniels could hear and Matlin could not -- in which the main conflict was whether their deaf child should receive a cochlear implant.

I was baffled by the struggle, which struck me as a no-brainer. True, I can hear, but I don't feel I am prejudiced when I say that it is not better to be deaf as some of the characters in this film appear to say. I can understand where there might be fear as to whether the implant will build up the boy's hope or whether he will easily adapt to the hearing world with speech patterns that might not appear up to par without loads of practice.

I can also understand, as in the case of a recent Cold Case episode, the portrayal of resentful family members or friends who might be concerned that once the boy could hear he might look down on those in his circle. It doesn't excuse their bias, but from a human nature standpoint it's an imaginable possibility.

That said, and although there was an attempt to balance the two sides, I cannot for the life of me see how any reasoned person would not want to improve, dare I say fix, a young boy's life. As science has greatly improved the surgical techniques, which are apparently not available to all deaf candidates, when a subject is determined to benefit greatly from such an implant there is no way that anyone will convince me that the absence of sound will better that person's life.

Deafness is a handicap. It does not mean that a deaf person cannot have a constructive, meaningful and successful life. Deafness is not as limiting as, let's say, blindness or paralysis, in that the person is more easily able to function and get around without much assistance, in particular those who can use sign language, lip read and actually talk -- as does Matlin in real life.

And I certainly would urge everyone -- not just the deaf community -- to instill a positive self in those who cannot hear and promote a life fulfillment that encourages people to overcome their limitations by circumventing methods which strengthen the abilities they have, whether physical, creative or intellectual. In so doing, I would also use educational and communication means to tear down stereotypes so that discrimination is not pervasive.

But to bury one's head in the sand like an ostrich, to resent those who are eligible for implants and to deny the possibilities of a fuller, yes fuller, life to utilize all of our senses is extraordinary. The Daniels character said he wanted his son to experience all that nature intended, such as hearing music or to be able to be warned verbally if he were in danger. The Matlin character responded defensively that "nature" had made him deaf, as if this were a sign that deafness is normal, which it is not.

If someone were paralyzed, whether by birth or due to polio, such as Franklin Roosevelt, we should provide support and help him to achieve what he might, and, as in the case of Roosevelt, that was quite a lot. However, if a new surgical technique might rid the paralysis or at the least help greatly -- even if the aftermath was imperfect, such as the person could get out of his wheelchair but might walk with a limp -- is there much question which road would be chosen?

If someone were blind and a cure for glaucoma was discovered, would his blind friends say, "Don't do it," as in it's better to be the way we are?

And yet because the deaf community is not as "helpless" as the aforementioned types and have formed cultural alliances and other bonds to get them through their lives in a meaningful fashion there appears to be a backlash against those who are able to benefit from the scientific advances. A sort of "deaf is better," which is as ridiculous as those in our society who try to put folks in the deaf community down.

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Shel90, thanks for posting this, Forgive me, but once again I gots to say what I think.... I could be wrong, but here it is....

This subject is very important to me...*especially* implanting babies. I did a 23 page report on it a research paper. I am all for *informed* adults making their own decision, but I just can't justify risking a babies life or long term emotional happiness by making the choice for them...

The FDA website concerning implants will tell you that there is only one real benefit to the CI,,, The hope that you will recieve artificial sound. They work on abou 24 channels, and the human ear has 30 thousand receptors that bring a range of sound that a CI can never reproduce, (at least with the technology available today)

On the other hand, the same FDA website lists about thirty possible RISKS to the CI,, even death... and the real scary part is that no one really knows what the long term effect will be of shooting electric impulses into someone's head will over a lifetime. There is no data,, long term! When they speak of people who have had fairly successful implant experiences, they usually say Some people,,,, not Most people experience a big change in their ability to hear false sounds. Many people see very little change, and lots see no change at all. It is a pretty expensive and painful operation to undergo, and the benefits are not even guaranteed. But, regardless of if they work or not, the CI people get richer, and the medical professionals do to.

Please, if considering a CI, go to the FDA site, (who by the way have been very heavily lobbyed by the CI industry and the oralist activists) and really read between the lines of what they are saying. Then you might read "Cochlear War" also on the Web. I may be missing something, but i don't think that Deaf people should be expected to undergo this type of invasive head surgery just to be accepted in the hearing community. Also, it seems that kids who have CIs and are mainstreamed will sometimes change to a Deaf school. According to some of the Deaf schools, the implanted children are well behind the kids who are tied from birth to the Deaf community and Deaf schools. Apparently they are extremely behind in literary skills in particular. I really don't know that I would risk my childs health to try to make him seem hearing. I think I would rather love him just as he is, and let him love himself just as he is. To a hearing parent, CIs will help them eliminate the problems of finding a Deaf school, or learning ASL etc.Or so they think it will. I think the long term problems may turn out to be pretty serious, but there is not really any data yet to know.

If my kid did have an implant, I would still ensure that he was primarily educated in a Deaf school and I would get as involved in the Deaf community as much as possible. I would make my family learn sign, and if anyone tried to take sign away from him, I would walk away from them. If an implant is disconnected or doesn't produce much sound, or if it needs to be removed due an infection or ringing in the ears or headaches or any number of reasons, the child is still Deaf. CIs also kill the nerve and that kills any residual hearing that a person has, plus it would keep them from being a candidate to some of the new technologies that are being explored, like stem cell nerve repairs. It just seems like a really big commitment to make, cuz you can take of the aids, but you can't just take out an implant.
 
Statistics

By the way, they do not track the deaths due to implants unless you die on the table or from menengitis. If you die from a post-surgical complication, like a brain clot or stroke, or anesthesiology, or any other infection like staph or flesh eating diseases that are floating around the hospital, then it is not linked to the original implant surgery,,,, even though the the person would have never died if he hadn't had the head surgery! Forgive me, but I think that the implant industry is very rich and powerful and they can't be trusted to tell the whole truth. Just be careful.
 
I'm not surprised that something like this is being published. LIke Jillo said, it is an issue of the writer's pathological view.
 
Right...that's why the hearing society is a burden on us because we have to adapt to meet their needs. Even growing up oral, despite mastering excellent oral and lipreading skills, I was still discriminated or not good enough so if I get a CI and dont benefit from it, I will be discriminated. There are demands made by the parents of deaf students to have a hearing teacher who can sign and use spoken language instead of a teacher who is deaf so even in the deaf ed field, teachers who are deaf are starting to get discriminated against. Maybe I will lose my teaching job because I am deaf even though the job itself is working with teaching deaf students.

Makes me wonder if the Deaf community should see implants as a neccessary evil?

Are there any laws about discremination in the work place yet? I should write my teacher, who is a department head working to protect the rights of the disabled. I mean people of color can sue if they lose their jobs because of discrimination. Can't you do the same? If there isn't a law now, then we need to get the petitions together, and take it to congress. Maybe the presidential candidates could answer that question about what they would do about that kind of discrimination. I just need to figure out how to get the questio to them. I have a friend, kind of a friend, who is a state representative in Oregon. Maybe I will ask her.
 
Are there any laws about discremination in the work place yet? I should write my teacher, who is a department head working to protect the rights of the disabled. I mean people of color can sue if they lose their jobs because of discrimination. Can't you do the same? If there isn't a law now, then we need to get the petitions together, and take it to congress. Maybe the presidential candidates could answer that question about what they would do about that kind of discrimination. I just need to figure out how to get the questio to them. I have a friend, kind of a friend, who is a state representative in Oregon. Maybe I will ask her.

The problem is that the companies are too smart and can lie their way around it by saying, "We are sorry but we found someone more qualified for the position you applied for. Thank you for your interst." I have gotten that letter/call and so has many of my deaf friends. It makes us wonder if that is really true or just a cover up to cover their asses from getting sued?
 
Are there any laws about discremination in the work place yet? I should write my teacher, who is a department head working to protect the rights of the disabled. I mean people of color can sue if they lose their jobs because of discrimination. Can't you do the same? If there isn't a law now, then we need to get the petitions together, and take it to congress. Maybe the presidential candidates could answer that question about what they would do about that kind of discrimination. I just need to figure out how to get the questio to them. I have a friend, kind of a friend, who is a state representative in Oregon. Maybe I will ask her.

Laws are there...the question is - who is reinforcing the laws? Is it being reinforced?

Many companies see deaf people as too costly because of hiring interpreters for meetings, etc. and for making necessary accommodations such as TTYs (which they should already have the accommodations in place).
 
Laws are there...the question is - who is reinforcing the laws? Is it being reinforced?

Many companies see deaf people as too costly because of hiring interpreters for meetings, etc. and for making necessary accommodations such as TTYs (which they should already have the accommodations in place).

I understand that employers avoid hiring Deaf employees because of the hassle and potential cost. That is one of the reasons that I want to go into advocacy. I was wondering exactly what you spoke about. Who is enforcing the laws, and how do you prove if you lost a job, or were denied a job just because of your deafness? I could be wrong, but I have read that sometimes NAD is not real adamant about persuing these issues, and sometimes they back down a little. I am really curious to find our exactly how the grievance process works.

One way that a job can get rid of you is to lay you off and not fire you, claiming budget cuts and the elimination of a position. Then they turn around and hire somebody else to do what you do, but they give them a different title so they don't get in trouble. that reall blows!
 
I'm sick to death of people looking and thinking from pathological view when they are really thinking about trying to perfect the defects.

This world is increasingly becoming more and more obessed about attaining perfection in whatever ways they can get away with, while looking down on people like us and pitying us because we didn't opt for 'miracle ear', and won't pretend to be hearing.

Dreamchaser, I applied for this job once and they responded back and said I matched their criteria, however there's a BUT! *sigh*
 
I'm sick to death of people looking and thinking from pathological view when they are really thinking about trying to perfect the defects.

This world is increasingly becoming more and more obessed about attaining perfection in whatever ways they can get away with, while looking down on people like us and pitying us because we didn't opt for 'miracle ear', and won't pretend to be hearing.

Dreamchaser, I applied for this job once and they responded back and said I matched their criteria, however there's a BUT! *sigh*



That was there loss!!!!! And they don't deserve you!!!!!

I just need to take this opportunity to apologize to you for all of the crap that hearies put on you guys. Don't they realize that it would only take one accident or illness to take their hearing away. How $%^&*** DARE they! Sometimes I am very ashamed to have working ears because I hate being associated to those ignorant $%^&*. I am so sorry that you have deal with this crap every day. And that aint pity for you because you are Deaf, it is pity because you are so misunderstood and stuck in a world wear ignorant people can control your schools and your opportunity in the job market. Something really needs to be done. This is the 21st century for heavens sake. It feels like the dark ages are returning. I am thinking that it is time for another "Deaf President Now Revolt" but not just for Gallaudet's president, but for the president of the USA... I would have no problem believing that an intelligent Deaf person could run this country better than it has been run lately. IF a black man, and a woman can be candidates, then why not a Deafie? There is a black governor of New York city now, and he is legally blind too. Your time is coming. Don't quit dreamin, and don't quit fighting,,, but never let yourself fall into hatred, because then you will be just as bad as them... Believe me,, there are a lot people out here that are on your side, and we are doing what we can to get the ball rolling. You just wait till I get my degree and I can sign well enough to really represent the Deaf community... WAtch out world,, cuz this little ole granny is pissed!

You hang in there,,, cuz I am believing that things can change if we can educate millions of hearies, the ones that aren't calloused jerks,,, then things will begin to change. And there really are a lot of hearies who have no idea of the unfairness and oppression that the Deaf community has suffered, and If you got enough hearies to understand that things aren't going ok for you, then you could teach them what you need and you would have the power to change some stuff. If it weren't for the backing of the hearing community at Gallaudet, and if the news media had not gotten involved,,, there would have never been a Deaf president there. Deafies didn't have the power,,,, UNTIL the average people realized that there was a problem. Then they all started to write there senators, and they donated money to keep the rallies going and to fix the damages at the school. And they got the students interviewed on national TV shows etc... Part of it is up to you to want to gently teach hearies about your stories. Honestly, most of them have no clue about the problems you face. They think that you have laws to protect you and that you are doing just fine. I know this because I have spoken to about a thousand hearies in the last few years that honestly had no idea that you faced oppression still!!! One other thing to remember,,, Lots of people see Deaf people and they see them signing and stuff so they realize that they are Deaf. They can't just walk up to you and start a conversation because they are afraid that you will reject them. They feel stupid cuz they don't understand ASL. They would feel even dumber writing you a note, cuz maybe you are not interested in talking to them. Hearing people can sit on a crowded bus and say absolutely nothing to anyone for hours. They are afraid of being rejected by each other. So,,, you be willing to make a hearie aware that you would like to communicate with him, even if you have to write notes, and you will touch a heart, and you will probably make a friend. So many people say they have never met a Deaf person. They never say that they don't want to know a Deaf person. They just don't know how to enter your world or if they would even be welcome there. I am working on fixing some of the misconceptions that hearies have by educating them about the Deaf. So please,, pray for me. I hope that I can make a big change, but at the least, I can plant the seeds and hope that someone else will come along to water them... see ya later,, sorry for talking so much:)
 
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