Hillary or Obama?

How about Obama?

What's his position on taxes, the economy, border security, illegal aliens, terrorism, etc.?

Do you think he's qualified to be the military's Commander in Chief?

What is his management experience?
 
i try my best....tee-hee

Is there any other reason to elect her (Hillary)?
cuz she is woman and high profile because of her dirty hubby

What is her plan for the national economy?
more tax, more cry for me and my family

What is her plan for border security?
void the wall, let more illegal come

What is her plan for illegal aliens?
become legal citizen by get drive license to get job

What is her plan for dealing with terrorists?
want to ignore

What is her plan for the war in Iraq?
withdraw most soldiers back to home

What is her management experience?
whine

Do you think she is qualified to be the military's Commander in Chief?
make a peace, not war, unless she would change mind

Does she know how to appear strong to foreign leaders without crying or whining?
worst, when she is on PMS> oh lord...

Or is she just a one-trick pony?
she know how to make pony turn left.
 
Do you want to face huge surgery bill?

I rather to pay $250 per month for family health insurance with fully coverage over face a huge surgery bill.

Everybody should get a free health care for all ages, not just children. France has one, and Saudi Arabia has one, too. U.S. is the worst of all even thought that the Gov't says that U.S. is number one. Surely, we are all brainwashed.
 
Is there any other reason to elect her?
She has a lot of political experiences.


What is her plan for the national economy?
I can't follow up this one because we do not know until she become the president. She will tell us the exact plan after reading Bush's documents to see if there is any default payment. Who knows.


What is her plan for border security?
Dunno.


What is her plan for illegal aliens?
I think that she wants them to get legal documents otherwise they will be thrown out of U.S. because some of them have criminal records that we don't want them to live in our country, especially they invade our American jobs. She wants them to register to become a legal citizen and then get a drive license so that they are required to pay their taxes.


What is her plan for dealing with terrorists?
Dunno. She will drunk with them at a night bar so that they would realize how friendly she is. There would be no more attacks forever.


What is her plan for the war in Iraq?
She wants our soldiers to come back home and protect our true country.


Do you think she is qualified to be the military's Commander in Chief?
Well, I think that she will have to deal with that.


Does she know how to appear strong to foreign leaders without crying or whining? She will have affairs with the male foreign leaders to help us because George messed up our country.


Or is she just a one-trick pony?
She probably turns left...
 
Her first plan failed. That's her background. She can't be trusted. That's her background. But for some reason you think she has changed?

You don't even know her new "plan", so how can you support it? How can you support something that you don't even know about? She hasn't even submitted the plan yet, so no one knows the details yet.

Her first plan was failed because she realized that Republicans had more seats than Democrats at the House of Representatives which wasn't work that way for her. I personally think that both of Republicans and Democrats acted like spoiled kids to against each party. They made a big fool themselves because they are supposed to be serious and help our people in the country. They all care about money than anything else - they will not change their heart for you.

I would say that she does not want others to copy her idea in case if she didn't win the election.
 
Being forced to pay, even though we can't pay, we have to pay. That scare me.



But who pays for the health insurance?

The link answers better.

Hillary's American Health Choices Plan covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality. It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs.

It puts the consumer in the driver's seat by offering more choices and lowering costs. If you're one of the tens of million Americans without coverage or if you don't like the coverage you have, you will have a choice of plans to pick from and that coverage will be affordable. Of course, if you like the plan you have, you can keep it.

Affordable: Unlike the current health system where insurance premiums send people into bankruptcy, the plan provides tax credits for working families to help them cover their costs. The tax credits will ensure that working families never have to pay more than a limited percentage of their income for health care.

Available: No discrimination. The insurance companies can't deny you coverage if you have a pre-existing condition.

Reliable: It's portable. If you change or lose your job, you keep your health care.

IT´S YOUR CHOICE
If you have a plan you like, you keep it. If you want to change plans or aren't currently covered, you can choose from dozens of the same plans available to members of Congress, or you can opt into a public plan option like Medicare. And working families will get tax credits to help pay their premiums.

GOOD FOR SMALL BUSINESSES:

Small businesses are the engine of new job growth in the U.S. economy but face bigger challenges when it comes to providing health care for their employees. Hillary would give tax credits to small businesses that provide health care to their workers to help defray their coverage costs. This will make small businesses more competitive and help create good jobs with health benefits that will stay here in the US.

REINS IN INSURANCE COMPANIES:

Insurance companies won't be able to deny you coverage or drop you because their computer model says you're not worth it. They will have to offer and renew coverage to anyone who applies and pays their premium. And like other things that you buy, they will have to compete for your business based on quality and price. Families will have the security of knowing that if they become ill or lose their jobs, they won't lose their coverage.

HILLARY CAN GET IT DONE

Nobody has worked harder or longer to improve health care than Hillary Clinton. From her time in Arkansas when she improved rural health care to her successful effort to create the SCHIP Children's Health Insurance program which now covers six million children, Hillary has the strength and experience to ensure that every man, woman and child in America has quality, affordable health care.

HillaryClinton.com - American's Health Choices Plan

Hillary Clinton unveiled the third part of her plan to ensure that all Americans have affordable, quality health insurance. Building on her proposals to rein in costs and to insist on value and quality, her American Health Choices Plan will secure, simplify and ensure choice in health coverage for all Americans. This Plan covers every American - finally addressing the needs of the 47 million uninsured and the tens of millions of workers with coverage who fear they could be one pink slip away from losing their health coverage - with no overall increase in health spending or taxes. For those with health insurance, the plan builds on the current system to give businesses and their employees greater choice of health plans - including keeping the one they have - while lowering cost and improving quality. Specifically, the American Health Choices Plan will:


1. OFFER NEW COVERAGES CHOICE FOR THE INSURED AND UNINSURED
The American Health Choices Plan gives Americans the choice to preserve their existing coverage, while offering new choices to those with insurance, to the 47 million people in the United States without insurance, and the tens of millions more at risk of losing coverage.


The Same Choice of Health Plan Options that Members of Congress Receive: Americans can keep their existing coverage or access the same menu of quality private insurance options that their Members of Congress receive through a new Health Choices Menu, established without any new bureaucracy as part of the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program (FEHBP). In addition to the broad array of private options that Americans can choose from, they will be offered the choice of a public plan option similar to Medicare.

A Guarantee of Quality Coverage: The new array of choices offered in the Menu will provide benefits at least as good as the typical plan offered to Members of Congress, which includes mental health parity and usually dental coverage.

2. LOWER PREMIUMS AND INCREASE SECURITY
Americans who are satisfied with the coverage they have today can keep it, while benefiting from lower premiums and higher quality.

Reducing Costs: By removing hidden taxes, stressing prevention and a focus on efficiency and modernization, the plan will improve quality and lower costs.

Strengthening Security:
The plan ensures that job loss or family illnesses will never lead to a loss of coverage or exorbitant costs.

End to Unfair Health Insurance Discrimination: By creating a level-playing field of insurance rules across states and markets, the plan ensures that no American is denied coverage, refused renewal, unfairly priced out of the market, or forced to pay excessive insurance company premiums.

3. PROMOTE AND SHARE RESPONSIBITY

Relying on consumers or the government alone to fix the system has unintended consequences, like scaled-back coverage or limited choices. This plan ensures that all who benefit from the system share in the responsibility to fix its shortcomings.

Insurance and Drug Companies: insurance companies will end discrimination based on pre-existing conditions or expectations of illness and ensure high value for every premium dollar; while drug companies will offer fair prices and accurate information.

Individuals: will be required to get and keep insurance in a system where insurance is affordable and accessible.

Providers: will work collaboratively with patients and businesses to deliver high-quality, affordable care.

Employers: will help financing the system; large employers will be expected to provide health insurance or contribute to the cost of coverage: small businesses will receive a tax credit to continue or begin to offer coverage.

Government: will ensure that health insurance is always affordable and never a crushing burden on any family and will implement reforms to improve quality and lower cost.

4. ENSURE AFFORDABLE HEALTH COVERAGE FOR ALL

Senator Clinton’s plan will:

Provide Tax Relief to Ensure Affordability: Working families will receive a refundable tax credit to help them afford high-quality health coverage.

Limit Premium Payments to a Percentage of Income:
The refundable tax credit will be designed to prevent premiums from exceeding a percentage of family income, while maintaining consumer price consciousness in choosing health plans.

Create a New Small Business Tax Credit: To make it easier-not harder-for small businesses to create new jobs with health coverage, a new health care tax credit for small businesses will provide an incentive for job-based coverage.

Strengthen Medicaid and CHIP: The Plan will fix the holes in the safety net to ensure that the most vulnerable populations receive affordable, quality care.

Launch a Retiree Health Legacy Initiative:
A new tax credit for qualifying private and public retiree health plans will offset a significant portion of catastrophic expenditures, so long as savings are dedicated to workers and competitiveness.

5. A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE PLAN THAT HONORS OUR PRIORITIES

Most Savings Come Through Lowering Spending Due to Quality and Modernization: Over half the savings come from the public savings generated from Senator Clinton’s broader agenda to modernize the heath systems and reduce wasteful health spending.

A Net Tax Cut for American Taxpayers: The plan offers tens of millions of Americans a new tax credit to make premiums affordable-which more than offsets the increased revenues from the Plan’s provisions to limit the employer tax exclusion for health care and discontinue portions of the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000. Thus, the plan provides a net tax cut for American taxpayers.

Making the Employer Tax Exclusion for Health Care Fairer: The plan protects the current exclusion from taxes of employer-provided health premiums, but limits the exclusion for the high-end portion of very generous plans for those making over $250,000.

HillaryClinton.com - American's Health Choices Plan
 
Everybody should get a free health care for all ages, not just children. France has one, and Saudi Arabia has one, too. U.S. is the worst of all even thought that the Gov't says that U.S. is number one. Surely, we are all brainwashed.

Exactly, everyone deserve to be treat equal, no matter what, not just children. Here in Europe countries we get treatment equal, no matter either you are worker or out of work.
 
So far, all I see are posts about Hillary's health care plan.

Is that all a president is for?

What about national security? Does Hillary have the experience to be Command in Chief of the armed forces?
 
Any posts about how Obama would lead the country, other than what color he is?
 
How about Obama?
He rocks because he is black and respect

What's his position on taxes, the economy, border security, illegal aliens, terrorism, etc.?
no idea, but he is black, he gonna give cheap tax for low class.

The economy is far idea from Franklin Roosevlt but it's unclear what he would plan for.

border security - he want black walls with perfect dark material enough to fool alien and got them hit their own face. He lmao!

illegal aliens still should get driver license to get job but cannot give citizen to support

No blame to muslim, blame to idiot who are really terrorism


Do you think he's qualified to be the military's Commander in Chief?
since he think video game is bad, then he would be probably chicken thoughtful but protect is probably he care.

What is his management experience?
he is 5th african-american senator. Make him proud. That's all I know he running around in Illionis and support awesome Chicago Bear which actual SUCKS. haha, he probably lost bet.
 
I think I like two leaders - Hillary and Obama. That's the problem. But, it would be more nice if Hillary would be the president, and Obama would be the vice-president. That would be cool!
 
I think I like two leaders - Hillary and Obama. That's the problem. But, it would be more nice if Hillary would be the president, and Obama would be the vice-president. That would be cool!

Doubtful, they are different views and plans.
 
I think I like two leaders - Hillary and Obama. That's the problem. But, it would be more nice if Hillary would be the president, and Obama would be the vice-president. That would be cool!

Yes I agree!!!

I learn to know more about them for few weeks and like both. I can´t say anything against both because they both are good. I watched on TV few hours ago saying that Hillary have more voters than Obama.
 
The only thing that we fear is Medicaid's policy. This policy stated that it takes away your house when you (owner of the house) die if you have a Medicaid. That's really bad policy. I don't think that any leader talks about that.

It does not matter if you do not have a Medicaid because in one day, you lose your job and difficult to find a job. You do not have much choice to apply for it. I learned that many deaf people are not alone are having very difficult finding a job. Many hearing people do NOT have a patient to listen to a relay agent. Video Relay services have been improved, but nothing is perfect yet. I thought that it was not a big deal, but I was wrong. Maybe, we could submit a letter to a new president to see if she/he could help us out a better way and especially change the Medicaid policy.
 
This joke came to me in my email from my cousin.

Chealsea Clinton was visiting a soldier in Afghanistan. She asked him what is he most afraid of.

He said 3 things.

1. Osama

2. Obama

And......

3. YOUR MOMMA!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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