Hillary or Obama?

Liebling:-))) said:
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Health insurance is a luxury to me to save people's risk life than anything including big and fancy car, etc because I rather to help with my insurances to everyone who deserves to remain alive and want to see everyone treat equal.

I would consider the people as greedy and selfish for complain for not want to pay "extra" health insurance coverage out of their pocket under Hillary's plan to save their people's risk life. Poor workers and employees who cannot afford to insure health insurance coverage when they desire to save their family life. :(

Explains at 2 links, I provided toward Reba.

I support Hillary's health insurance plan fully than worry about her past background.
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Yep you got that right. I also support Hilary's health plans. But hopefully she also make plan about US economy is also in trouble as well.
 
I already voted the primary election in this morning and picked Obama.

I wouldn't mind if Hillary win, though.

Reba, You seems have rough time with Hillary's plan, her plan is new to you and how are you know about her plan would be bad move? Don't call like that until you had been into her plan. I said wait and see about how her's plan would be working, just like example for NCLB ACT, I thought that law would help to improve the education for child but... nothing is happen, IMO.

Long time, I had seen that you made negative on president that who run for democrat, hate to say, I had disagree with some of your side.
 
Pacman said:
I already voted the primary election in this morning and picked Obama.

I wouldn't mind if Hillary win, though.

Reba, You seems have rough time with Hillary's plan, her plan is new to you and how are you know about her plan would be bad move? Don't call like that until you had been into her plan. I said wait and see about how her's plan would be working, just like example for NCLB ACT, I thought that law would help to improve the education for child but... nothing is happen, IMO.

Long time, I had seen that you made negative on president that who run for democrat, hate to say, I had disagree with some of your side.
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I have to agree with you all the way on this one. Wel posted!
 
Pacman said:
...Long time, I had seen that you made negative on president that who run for democrat, hate to say, I had disagree with some of your side.
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If it's any comfort to you, I'm very disappointed with the Republican candidates also. But this thread is "Hillary or Obama?" so that's what I'm posting here.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Forget to add one more... I noticed some people are against Hillary because of her husband's background - oval office, etc... :roll: Hillary is a present and Bill belongs past...
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Of course, past is past...

Both of Bill and Hillary aren't same, both of them are different preference.

That's so sad about people who against on Hillary because of her husband. :roll:
 
Reba said:
If it's any comfort to you, I'm very disappointed with the Republican candidates also. But this thread is "Hillary or Obama?" so that's what I'm posting here.
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Oh, got it about thread topic.

None of Republican candidates are your type? I was previously to support Kucinich but he don't get enough support then I was ended up to support both of Obama and Hillary. :(
 
Pacman said:
Of course, past is past...

Both of Bill and Hillary aren't same, both of them are different preference.

That's so sad about people who against on Hillary because of her husband. :roll:
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Yep that is true, people still keep thinking of the past what Bill Clinton done. But the people should moved on from the past and forget that mistake. It done and over with it. I am sure she knew people would go against her because of what her husband done. The past should be forgiven and let it go.
 
Just because Hillary wants her healthcare plan doesn't mean she is going to get it.

Remember, you have to go through Congress.....
 
Byrdie714 said:
Just because Hillary wants her healthcare plan doesn't mean she is going to get it.

Remember, you have to go through Congress.....
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That is correct, she have to go through the congress first to get the bill passed first and see what happens. The congress people have the power to say yes and no to her plans what she want to do. :)
 
Byrdie714 said:
Just because Hillary wants her healthcare plan doesn't mean she is going to get it.

Remember, you have to go through Congress.....
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And I wouldn't want to be a dissenting member of congress if she is elected. Remember, alot of people who go against the Clintons end up committing "suicide". It must be very stressful to work for them.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Why?
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Being forced to pay, even though we can't pay, we have to pay. That scare me.

You will still get health coverage under Hillary's plan when you are out of work. You do not need to pay anything extra for yourself when you are worker/employee.
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But who pays for the health insurance?
 
Very tight race. It is hard to decide which one because both are great candiate.
 
fredfam1 said:
While I don't like to see any one get drunk, at least they didn't carry on their behavior in the oval office while their daddy was on the phone discussing troop deployments like Clinton did. I guess if Hillary is elected and she needs to have a blow job while discussing troop deployments, at least she'll probably have the "blower" commit "suicide" later so they don't save an item of her clothing with any evidence on it.

See the following list:
Whitewater Body Count
All the President's Men
Actually, many of these people had no connection to Whitewater, but are tied in to other Clinton scandals. Some may really have been suicides.
Dead:
Vince Foster
His 20 July 1993 death was initially ruled a suicide, but is under investigation by Special Prosecutor Starr. There are still a lot of unanswered questions concerning Foster's death.
Luther "Jerry" Parks
In Little Rock on 26 September 1993, Jerry Parks, whose company provided security for Clinton's presidential campaign and transition headquarters, was ambushed and killed by at least three bullets fired at close range from a 9mm semi-automatic pistol as he was driving home.

Now the dead man's son, Gary Parks, charges that his father, who ran American Contract Services Inc., was killed "to save Bill Clinton's political career."

Interviewed in the London Telegraph, the younger Parks said "my dad was working on Clinton's infidelities for about six years, starting in the campaign around 1983," and had compiled two name-and-photo-filled files on Mr. Clinton that he kept hidden in his bedroom.

Shortly before he was killed, Mr. Parks Little Rock home was broken into. Not only were the phone lines severed and security system dismantled, but Jane Parks, Mr. Parks' widow, says the pair of Clinton files turned up missing and "must have been stolen."

(25 March 1994 Washington Times)

Kathy Ferguson and Bill Shelton
Kathy Ferguson, former wife of the Arkansas state trooper that is being sued along with President Clinton for sexual harrasment by Paula Jones died from a gunshot wound to the right temple early Thursday, 12 May 1994. It is currently being investigated as an apparent suicide. She was apparently moving out of her boyfirend's home, as her bags were packed. (AP) Though Kathy was already divorced at the time of the 1991 sexual harrasment incident, she may have been aware of details of her husband's activities at that time, or she may have known of other earlier incidents.

Arkansas police officer Bill Shelton was found dead on the grave of Mrs. Ferguson on 12 June 1994 wiht a suicide note next to the body. A bullet had entered behind his right ear. (The Economist)

Suzanne Coleman
Suzanne had an affair with Clinton when he was Attorney General in Arkansas. On 15 February 1977, she "committed suicide" with a gunshot to the back of the head. No autopsy was performed, and she was seven-and-a-half months pregnant with Clinton's child.

Herschel Firday
On 1 March 1994, he died in a small plane crash. Mr Firday was a member of Clinton's campaign finance committee and head of a large Arkansas law firm. He was landing in a drizzle at dusk at his own airfield.
Dr. Ronald Rogers
On 3 March 1994, Dentist Ronald Rogers, who was about to meet with a British journalist, died in another small plane crash as he flew from Dallas to Denver. The plane reported electrical problems at 22:30 near the Texas-Oklahoma border. It crashed in clear weather 40 miles south of where it dropped off radar.
Jon Walker
On 15 August 1993, Jon Walker died when he fell from the top of the Lincoln Towers building in Arlington, VA. He had been an investigator for the Resolution Trust Corporation (RTC). In that capacity in March of 1992, he had contacted the Kansas RTC regional office for information concerning ties between Whitewater, Madison Guaranty, and the Clintons. (The Economist)
Stanley Huggins
On 23 June 1994, he was found dead in Delaware, reportedly from viral pneumonia. He had headed a 1987 examination into Madison Guaranty's loan practices and produced a large report which has not been released. (The Economist)
C. Victor Riser III
The national finance co-chairman of the Clinton for President campaign, C. Victor Riser III, was killed in a plane crash in July 1992.
Paul Tully
The Democratic National Committee policial director, Paul Tully, died from unknown causes in his hotel room in Little Rock in September 1992. No autopsy was performed.
Florence Martin
Ms. Martin was shot three times in the head on Monday, 31 October 1994. All I have about this is from a news post.
Danny Casolaro
Correction: Danny Casolaro was investigating the Justice Department's stealing of PROMIS from INSLA W when he was murdered on 9 August 1991. Apparently some of the more extreme conspiracy theories have the two connected through BCCI and the Contras. [Can anyone tell me why I was told that he was "investigating drug and gun running in Arkansas" and died in July 1992?]

Calvin Walraven
The informant who testified against former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elder's son in a cocaine trafficking trial died of a shotgun wound to the head 10 days after the trial. It was ruled a suicide.
Injured:
L. J. Davis
The reporter who wrote an April 4 article for the New Republic concerning Whitewater was attacked in Arkansas on 14 February 1994, but survived head injuries, though some of his papers concerning his investigation into Whitewater were stolen, including a "list of contacts," and a "critical document." Based on a mysterious phone call he received before the beating, he suspects that his modem transmission of his story was intercepted (ie. that his phone was tapped).

Davis is a contributing editor for Harper's magazine and does free-lance writing for many publications. A transcript of an interview with him was posted to the net.

The article, "The Name of Rose," which provides an excellent overview of politics and corruption in Arkansas is available from the Electronic Newsstand.
Murdoch
A New York Post reporter who was assaulted in Little Rock while he was there collecting information on a story he wrote about Whitewater.
Gary Johnson
Gary Johnson is a lawyer who lived next door to Gennifer Flowers in the Quapaw Towers appartment building. On 26 June 1992, he was severly beaten to the point that his splean had to be removed. (The Economist)
Dennis Patrick
After having tens of millions of dollars that he did not own traded through his account at Lasater & Co., he has survived three attempts on his life. He has now spoken to FBI agents and Fiske's taskforce.
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What it has to do with Hillary Clinton? I am sure President Bush do have some dark secret that we do not know about. He controlled media and fool us many time.
 
fredfam1 said:
And when my first husband was unfaithful to me, I hung his butt out to dry! Then I married a decent man who could keep his vows!
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I am sorry it happened to u but Hillary is not you. Another thing how do u know your husband is faithful and loyality to u 100 percent?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Cultural behavior like habit way of person type who was brought up in different cultural background where their family come from.

Some people said that Obama act like white, not black. I can see their point and try to say in previous post that Obama has a white mother who raised him in her own habit way.

I know some Muslims who acts like German because their parents are Muslim and German because they prefer to like be German, not Muslim. I know the difference mentality between Muslim and German and know straight way that it's German way, not Muslim way. It does the same with UK and German children as well. Their mentality are too different due cultural background/behavior where they grew up.

All what I said is: Obama is Obama, period.

I personally find Obama is a nice and friendly man and like his personality.
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He has white mother? How do I miss that. In that case he is not black or white, he is biracial.
 
Okay, I have a reason to upset how people judge me when I was bombed with media about how many black people voted for Obama, how many white people voted for Clinton, How many Asian people vote for Obama or Clinton, and so on and on. It was on TV all night last night and this morning. They feed me with those quotes about color of skins. No wonder our conutry is all about race, size of classes, ages, sex, intellange (mispelling) and locations. Everyone has to think about it, oh we have black people here, oh we have latinos people here, oh we have this and that. What is this?
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Being forced to pay, even though we can't pay, we have to pay. That scare me.



But who pays for the health insurance?
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Would you want live under uninsured? If you don't have job then you would get other system, even better extending than existing medicaid/medicare, who knows?

I think Hillary plan would be pay by government + companies (if possible) + you, even would be paid by subtract on payroll, it's not very big and would make more Americans to offers health center without any worrying, some of surgeries aren't covered by government, such as medicare/medicaid.

I said too earlier to make negative against her, just wait and see about how would work.
 
OK, I got that everyone thinks Hillary's health insurance plan is wonderful.

Is there any other reason to elect her?

What is her plan for the national economy?

What is her plan for border security?

What is her plan for illegal aliens?

What is her plan for dealing with terrorists?

What is her plan for the war in Iraq?

What is her management experience?

Do you think she is qualified to be the military's Commander in Chief?

Does she know how to appear strong to foreign leaders without crying or whining?

Or is she just a one-trick pony?
 
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