History teachers drop Holocaust & Crusades

[jillio]

Wow, you're clearly not at all racist. As we all know, a topic about incompetent history teachers is clearly an excuse to insult all Muslims. What is so insane about praying? What about being a dedicated religious person, even in the face of sickness/death, is so offensive to you?

I'm one of those "loonies." I'm a college educated competent and intelligent person from the middle east who also happens to be Muslim. I am one of the BILLION peaceful and nonviolent Muslims on this earth. How DARE you make judgements about me and my religon based on the actions of a few who chose to pervert it? How DARE you? Who on -earth- are you to say that I do not belong in your country?

It's people who think like you do who create hate. You attach stigma to an entire population and act surprised when, hey, that stigmatized population turns to the only thing they have left in a world that largely rejects them- faith. That is the breeding ground for radicals, sir. Not some lonely man in a Masjid trying to convince Muslim children that such and such never happened.

I believe in nonviolence. Maybe it's time you learned something from me and offered that to the world?

 

[Tousi]

No, I don't think you're one of those "loonies". Like you said, it's the actions of a few extremists that pervert an otherwise noble religion. The same can be said for a lot of religions. But pressuring the government to change or omit facts of history from the school curriculum in order to avoid offending a certain group of people because of religious intolerance is a serious thing. The competence of the teachers is not the issue.

I am all for religion. Prayer and dedication to one's religion is a great thing. Using one's religion to impose an agenda on other people through violence and destruction is NOT a great thing. The radical extremists who do this are a menace to society. Unfortunately, we seem to be seeing more of them lately and public opinion of Muslims are influenced by these actions.

I believe in non-violence too. I believe we can all get along and learn something from each other. Let's start with the idea that no ONE group of people should impose their will on ALL of society. Agreed?

Only fair to produce his/her reply. In fact, I think it should have been posted first. Oh, well....

 

[callisto]

First of all it's clear that this su*ks...

But second...
Tell me.... how many of you actually did learn about II.WW?
I've no idea how it is where you went to school but here it's often that we start learning stuff from 14th century but when school is out you didn't reach the years like 1900.
(god, my english is so bad.. not sure if you guys know what i actually mean..)

 

[Buffalo]

First of all it's clear that this su*ks...

But second...
Tell me.... how many of you actually did learn about II.WW?
I've no idea how it is where you went to school but here it's often that we start learning stuff from 14th century but when school is out you didn't reach the years like 1900.
(god, my english is so bad.. not sure if you guys know what i actually mean..)

If you didn't learned WW II in the school, then how did you learned of WW I and WW II???

 

[Reba]

Update:

PATRIOTISM 'SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT'


Friday February 1, 2008

Children should not be taught to be patriotic at school, researchers said.

The Government has called for history lessons to help children develop a sense of their British identity and a love of their country.

But academics at the Institute of Education in the University of London warned that pupils should not be encouraged to love Britain for its "morally ambiguous" history.

The report, by Michael Hand and Jo Pearce, said patriotism should be taught - but as "a controversial issue".

Dr Hand said: "Gordon Brown and (Tory leader) David Cameron have both called for a history curriculum that fosters attachment and loyalty to Britain.

"But the case for promoting patriotism in schools is weak. Patriotism is love of one's country, but are countries really appropriate objects of love?

"Loving things can be bad for us, for example when the things we love are morally corrupt.

"Since all national histories are at best morally ambiguous, it's an open question whether citizens should love their countries."

The researchers questioned more than 300 teachers in London secondary schools and pupils aged 13-14.

Three-quarters of the teachers felt they had an obligation to alert their pupils to the dangers of patriotic sentiments. Only 9% of teachers thought schools should actively promote patriotism.

Daily Express: The World's Greatest Newspaper :: News / Showbiz :: Patriotism 'should not be taught'

 

[shel90]

Update:


Daily Express: The World's Greatest Newspaper :: News / Showbiz :: Patriotism 'should not be taught'

The wording of the first sentence is important...it states that children should not be taught to be patriotic at school. I agree with that somewhat but instead, I would rather have the teachers teach the children the meaning of patriotism rather than teaching them to be patriotic. That way the children will learn from the meaning and decide how to apply it for themselves as they get older. I dont think it should be ommitted from the lessons. It is a valuable lesson for them to learn about pride whether it is for one's country or one's family.

Also, I think it is critical to include the corruption that occurrs everywhere so children can develop an understanding of all the issues that occurs politically. I think schools dont really do a good job teaching children political issues.

I hope this makes sense.