Teen gets 20 years for gang rape of woman, son

The 16 years old agreed with the 20 years sentence and willing to testify against the other teenagers..

Even if they get lesser sentence it doesn't solve what they did to this poor family, they forced their way into the woman's apartment raped her, force her to perform oral sex on her son, making him have sex with his mother in front of them, tortured and brutally beaten them both and they also poured household cleaning liquids into son's eyes, I can not understand how a teenager this young would commit such a horrible crime but sadly some people will only begin to "think" when it happens to them or their loved ones....I know they're kids who made a terrible mistake but they are old enough to know what is right and wrong but they choose to commit such a horrible crime that will effect the rest of their lives...


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I have to agree with you on this one Angel. I am usually very lenient toward juvenile offenders,a s I strongly believe that they are a product of their environment and need to be given the skills necesary to live without criminal activity. Many offenders have been abused themselves, and they need treatment to overcome these problems. If we give our juvenile offenders the treatment they need they will not become adult offenders.

However, this crime is especially horrific and brutal. These offenders have crossed a line that puts them intot he same category as adult offenders in my mind. The sheer brutality of their actions makes these young men dangerous, indeed.
 
Only problem is - he will always be listed as a sexual predator - he will never be able to be around children again, let alone have them.

And I agree with the sentence, at 16 they know good and damn well what they did was wrong, sick, and absolutely degrading.

Im quite sure that he thinks he feels remorseful now - wait til he sees in the inside of a prison and gets a taste of their justice system - he will feel plenty remorseful then for sure! Among criminals - there is a certain code - you do not ever prey on a child, ever.
 
I prefer for him to be in the prison for 20 years. He will be 36 years old when he will come out of the prison. It's because he knows the difference between right and wrong. It is a common sense for two rules for do and don't.

He admitted that he crossed the line because he broke the common sense rule.

It is more likely that he would be out of the prison when he would be about 27 years old for a good behavior. His name will never be removed on his criminal record after he is out of the prison.

Liebling:))) is right. It won't solve anything. Most prisoners teach new prisoners to learn bad things and repeat their crimes when they are freed.
 
The 16 years old agreed with the 20 years sentence and willing to testify against the other teenagers..

Even if they get lesser sentence it doesn't solve what they did to this poor family, they forced their way into the woman's apartment raped her, force her to perform oral sex on her son, making him have sex with his mother in front of them, tortured and brutally beaten them both and they also poured household cleaning liquids into son's eyes, I can not understand how a teenager this young would commit such a horrible crime but sadly some people will only begin to "think" when it happens to them or their loved ones....I know they're kids who made a terrible mistake but they are old enough to know what is right and wrong but they choose to commit such a horrible crime that will effect the rest of their lives...


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Exactly.

My sympathy is for the mom and son, not the rapists.

I'm more concerned about how long the son will suffer than how long the perps will be incarcerated.
 
What world do you live in? Prisons are breeding grounds for both recidivism and mental illness.

what you want for this kid to do?

You want him to not serve time in prison.
Because he is too young to go to prison...
he can go back on the street and think he can get away with it again because he is still young.

You think he will go seek counseling... what if he show up
at counseling office and just don't talk and then decide
to not show up again at counseling office.
 
When the "remorseful" teenager gets out of prison (36 years old), the boy will be 32. Do you honestly think he'll go to sleep at night thinking that the rapist will be reformed?

The mother and her son will have to live with this for all of their life.

It's only fair that all 10 rapists go through the same.

Prison is supposed to be a place for rehabilitation while "time served". It is common for prisoners to have so difficult a life outside of prison that they usually return. The tattle-taler and the other three teens will begin to live that cycle.

Just like the mother and her son . . . who'll live within an emotionally, mentally, and spiritually abusive cycle.

Day after day, night after night, week by week, month by month and year after year - the offenders and the victims will remember again and again.

So sad.
 
Only problem is - he will always be listed as a sexual predator - he will never be able to be around children again, let alone have them.

And I agree with the sentence, at 16 they know good and damn well what they did was wrong, sick, and absolutely degrading.

Im quite sure that he thinks he feels remorseful now - wait til he sees in the inside of a prison and gets a taste of their justice system - he will feel plenty remorseful then for sure! Among criminals - there is a certain code - you do not ever prey on a child, ever.

And my question is, is he remorseful for his horrendous acts, or is he remorseful over getting caught? Two quite different situations!
 
what you want for this kid to do?

You want him to not serve time in prison.
Because he is too young to go to prison...
he can go back on the street and think he can get away with it again because he is still young.

You think he will go seek counseling... what if he show up
at counseling office and just don't talk and then decide
to not show up again at counseling office.

Of course not. I was simply addressing your previous comment regarding recidivism and mental illness in prisons. You stated that these things were not the result of our current jsutice system, and I say they are. Numerous studies have been done on the issue.

Please read my post #21 for my views regarding the punishment I believe this young man should receive.
 
what you want for this kid to do?

You want him to not serve time in prison.
Because he is too young to go to prison...
he can go back on the street and think he can get away with it again because he is still young.

You think he will go seek counseling... what if he show up
at counseling office and just don't talk and then decide
to not show up again at counseling office.

Actually today lots of teenagers can still be try for adult crimes nowdays to go prison. But remember rapist always get short jail terms and still walk scott free. How often do we hear a rapist say in jail for 20 years. They can still get out on good behavior and still do the same crime again. They can't be trusted anyway.
 
The 16 years old agreed with the 20 years sentence and willing to testify against the other teenagers..

Even if they get lesser sentence it doesn't solve what they did to this poor family, they forced their way into the woman's apartment raped her, force her to perform oral sex on her son, making him have sex with his mother in front of them, tortured and brutally beaten them both and they also poured household cleaning liquids into son's eyes, I can not understand how a teenager this young would commit such a horrible crime but sadly some people will only begin to "think" when it happens to them or their loved ones....I know they're kids who made a terrible mistake but they are old enough to know what is right and wrong but they choose to commit such a horrible crime that will effect the rest of their lives...]

I agreed this is much of a horrific crime yet the mother and son huddled together, battered and beaten, in the bathroom because they simply refused to do oral or sex onto each others, they walked a mile to the hospital because they had no phone to call for help, can you imagine that?

You think those teenagers shouldn't get 20 years in prison? That's crazy Liebling and PuyoPiyo

I have no sympathy for those teenagers who committed the crime, If I was the judge I'll slap them with a life sentence those sick freaks.
 
I'm sorry but I agree with the sentence, what those teenager boys did was horrible and forcing the mother to perform oral sex on her 12 years old son, that is just sick, I'm just glad that they got what they deserved...

i agree with angel and it very sick crime thing they did to the mother and the son
 
I agreed this is much of a horrific crime yet the mother and son huddled together, battered and beaten, in the bathroom because they simply refused to do oral or sex onto each others, they walked a mile to the hospital because they had no phone to call for help, can you imagine that?

You think those teenagers shouldn't get 20 years in prison? That's crazy Liebling and PuyoPiyocommitted.

I have no sympathy for those teenagers who committed the crime, If I was the judge I'll slap them with a life sentence those sick freaks.

I probably would have done the extact same thing how I felt about those teenagers that committed the crime, I would slap them so hard that make their head spin to send them a life time of prison with no parpole. :whip:
 
I probably would have done the extact same thing how I felt about those teenagers that committed the crime, I would slap them so hard that make their head spin to send them a life time of prison with no parpole. :whip:

Yes!! I'm a mother of two boys and if anyone ever tells me to perform oral sex on my sons I rather be dead! That's the most disgusted thing anyone would even dare to do or say.
 
Of course not. I was simply addressing your previous comment regarding recidivism and mental illness in prisons. You stated that these things were not the result of our current jsutice system, and I say they are. Numerous studies have been done on the issue.

Please read my post #21 for my views regarding the punishment I believe this young man should receive.


What about the rape victims.... mother and son, they will be so scare for the rest of their life. Won't trust anyone. Will have mental breakdown.
And also will have nightmare every night.

They won't live a normal life.
 
Actually today lots of teenagers can still be try for adult crimes nowdays to go prison. But remember rapist always get short jail terms and still walk scott free. How often do we hear a rapist say in jail for 20 years. They can still get out on good behavior and still do the same crime again. They can't be trusted anyway.


Maybe because lack of evidence or DNA proof....
 
Maybe because lack of evidence or DNA proof....

More likely they're released due to overcrowding in the prison system.

But women victims rarely get the justice they deserve from the legal system. In a way, women from everywhere are still second-class citizens.

However, I agree with the majority of the posters on this sentence. They deserve it plus more. I just hope they won't be paroled anytime before 20 years is up.

There was a recent case in Sydney where there were a group of teenage rapists (about 10 or so) who gangraped a young girl (aged 14 or so). Most of them were sent to prison for 15-20 years. Hefty sentence, indeed, but it sends out a message to the community, one can hope.
 
Ya know what's sad to me is, that in this case we are more worried about what type of punishment these boys will recieve, than we are about the victims themselves.

I see where in the article it does prove where at least one boy has DNA links to this rape, So therefore it proves to me that this time there is guilt without a shadow of a doubt. These boys deserve what they get. I wont argue that.


But in all reality my concern is the victims. Does our services for the victims really help them? They dont make recieving counseling mandatory, instead it is voluntarily, and many victims do NOT use the counseling services.

My questions are in concern of the victims here.

How long is counseling made available to them?
How many sessions with a counselor is allowed for them?
What kind of support systems are made available to the victims after the perps have been tried?
Are they available for any drug assistance? *This means for prescriptions of anti depressents and stuff they may need?*
What about transportation assistance? Not only to and from court but also to and from counseling?
Is there support for them to be able to move out of a home or apartment that they most likely no longer feel comfortable and safe in?

I dont know much about victims assistance. But I do believe instead of focusing on these kids that did the crime, we need to focus on making sure that this family recieves as much help and counseling as we can give them.
 
Gang Rape Suspects Linked by DNA

Nov 2, 2007

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Three teenagers charged in the gang rape and beating of a woman and her son have been linked to the crime by DNA, authorities said.

DNA from suspects Tommy Lee Poindexter and Nathan Walker Jr. was found on the woman's dress, according to an analysis by the Palm Beach County Crime Laboratory, released in documents Thursday. DNA from Avion Lawson also was found on a condom left at the scene, according to the documents.

Poindexter, 18, Walker, 17, and Lawson, 14, face charges including sexual battery, kidnapping and burglary. A fourth suspect, Jakaris Taylor, 16, has been previously linked to the crime through fingerprints, police said.

All face life sentences if convicted.

The woman told police that as many as 10 masked teens accosted her and her 12-year-old son in their apartment on June 18. The teens are accused of raping and sodomizing the mother, forcing mother and son to have sex with each other and beating both of them.

The suspects then doused them with cleaning solutions in an attempt to destroy evidence, police said.

Attorneys for Lawson, Walker and Taylor declined to comment on Friday. Poindexter's attorney did not immediately respond to a telephone message and e-mail.



The Associated Press: Gang Rape Suspects Linked by DNA


Teen pleads in gang rape, beating

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- A teenager charged in the horrifying gang rape and beating of a woman and her son agreed to a plea deal Monday that will send him to prison for 20 years. Jakaris Taylor, 16, pleaded guilty to sexual battery and burglary and will testify against three other teens charged in the June attack, the state attorney's office said.


One of the four teenagers charged with the gang rape of a mother and the assault on her young son at the Dunbar Village public housing complex agreed to a plea deal with prosecutors Monday morning.

In exchange for pleading guilty to two counts of sexual battery by multiple perpetrators with a firearm while wearing a mask and burglary with assault or battery with a firearm, Jakaris Taylor will serve 20 years in prison with credit for the 130 days he's been in jail.

The state attorney's office released the details of the agreement, and sentencing is set for next November.

Taylor, who will be designated a sexual predator, must also testify in court against any or all co-defendants, or risk voiding the deal, according to the agreement.

Also charged in the June 18 attack on the 35-year-old mother and her 12-year-old son were: Avion Lawson, 14; Tommy Lee Poindexter, 18; and Nathan Walker 17. They face life in prison if convicted.

Taylor had denied any involvement in the June 18 attack on a 35-year-old mother and her 12-year-old son in the troubled public housing complex on West Palm Beach's Division Avenue.

Taylor, one of at least four suspects in the attack, once thought he'd be out of jail on house arrest.

"They ain't got nothing on me but a latent fingerprint," Taylor wrote to his girlfriend from the Palm Beach County Jail. "But for the other three, they got DNA, fingerprints and the lady positively identified them."

Taylor, who described himself as a father-to-be, wrote from the Palm Beach County Jail to his girlfriend that his fingerprint was found on an item he gave to one of the other suspects that was dropped in the row house.

After the hours-long ordeal, the woman told police that as many as 10 males beat, raped and sodomized her at gunpoint. She was also sexually assaulted with a gun, a bottle and a bar of soap, according to an indictment.

The attackers then beat her son, smashed a plate over his head and poured household chemicals into his eyes. They managed to force the woman to perform oral sex on her son before dousing her with household chemicals in an attempt to destroy physical evidence


But a fingerprint and a used condom found in the woman's house led police to Taylor, Lawson and Walker, authorities said.

It was Lawson who first indicated a willingness to make a deal with prosecutors, according to case documents released at the beginning of the month.

According to a letter Lawson wrote to prosecutor Lanna Belohlavek, he said the teens were looking for jewelry and said six people attacked the mother and son.

He also blamed the attack on Poindexter
 
Ya know what's sad to me is, that in this case we are more worried about what type of punishment these boys will recieve, than we are about the victims themselves.

I see where in the article it does prove where at least one boy has DNA links to this rape, So therefore it proves to me that this time there is guilt without a shadow of a doubt. These boys deserve what they get. I wont argue that.


But in all reality my concern is the victims. Does our services for the victims really help them? They dont make recieving counseling mandatory, instead it is voluntarily, and many victims do NOT use the counseling services.

My questions are in concern of the victims here.

How long is counseling made available to them?
How many sessions with a counselor is allowed for them?
What kind of support systems are made available to the victims after the perps have been tried?
Are they available for any drug assistance? *This means for prescriptions of anti depressents and stuff they may need?*
What about transportation assistance? Not only to and from court but also to and from counseling?
Is there support for them to be able to move out of a home or apartment that they most likely no longer feel comfortable and safe in?

I dont know much about victims assistance. But I do believe instead of focusing on these kids that did the crime, we need to focus on making sure that this family recieves as much help and counseling as we can give them.


Bear,


I understand competely how you feel but this is what I've read so far is that mother and son are seeking counseling, also state that the mother is still unable to go to work, is constantly going to doctors for treatment of injuries from the attacked, but I'm not sure about her son yet. she also said she is little relief about Taylor's plea because the others attackers are still free on the street....Also prosecutors often accept plea deals to prevent victims from facing their abusers again in court and sparing them for further trauma which I agreed..


What upset me the most is what I'm hearing from some of her neighbors, and why no one came to help them or called the police....Read the part where her neighbor Paticiea Matlock says about this...At Fla. housing project, rape just another crime - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com It does sadness me to see that some of their neighbors do not care what this mother and her son went through...
 
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