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I copied and pasted from Deaf Tag. 
You are more than welcome to post pictures, stories, etc.
*** NO BASHING or ANYTHING NEGATIVES on this thread! Or I will report you to moderator!!!***
A view of the bow of the Titanic from a camera mounted
on the outside of the Mir I submersible.
Titanic sank 95 years ago on April 15th. Did she carry the deaf passengers? Nobody really knows. There were over a thousands of people riding on that ship. 1,523 victims out of 2,228 passengers died in the frigid sea. It sank 350 miles somewhere off Newfoundland. The ship was never found until 1985. Fookem and Bug were searching for the information about the deaf passengers however there is no evidence of any Deaf person riding on that ship. Maybe there was one or more. If you know anything, please email or leave your comment in here, thank you.
We the Fookem and Bug were at the “deep sea” and found some rare details you might never see before. They used the words such as “deaf”, “deafmute”, etc. Enjoy reading.
*THE MAIN THING
John Lee Clark
On Getting Published IV
As a publisher, I come across all sorts of writers and manuscripts. I
often encounter the notion that avoiding writing about signing community
life is the best way to go. Many writers, especially younger ones,
believe that Deaf content doesn’t sell, and so they pour their creative
juices into writing about hearing subjects.
Doing that as a matter of policy is a mistake. Think about it for a
minute. There are countless hearing writers. Publishing in the
mainstream is very competitive, and very few writers succeed. Why?
Because only a few of them have the most valuable gift a writer can
have: stories not already told.
Now, our writers are in almost automatic possession of this blessing,
sometimes called “outsiderhood.” Our literature is largely uncharted,
ripe for the picking. And the mainstream is always hungry for new food
for thought.
Let me illustrate a bit. Not long ago I received a short story
submission. It was about a hearing couple on the fated ship Titanic;
they are separated at the end when the husband must stay on board while
the wife is rowed away on a lifeboat. The writing was lovely and the
research made it all realistic. But I couldn’t publish it because that
story has been done to death. Now, what if the writer, who was Deaf, had
the couple be Deaf? The story would immediately become different from
all those thousands of Titanic stories.
I know of some writers who don’t want to write about Deaf issues. They
just want to tell stories. So they go in the opposite direction and
write about hearing people. This is not the solution, and in fact
presents more problems. One such problem is that the Deaf writer is
treading on almost foreign ground when they write about hearing
“culture.” Don’t get me wrong, some Deaf writers can pull it off and to
spectacular effect, but they are invariably experienced writers and wise
enough to choose stories they are sure will hold their own against
millions of voices out there.
So I recommend that writers, as a general guideline, write what they
know, drawing from their real life experiences. Signers are human
beings, too, and life in the signing community is also Life, so when one
writes about them, with or without the politics, one will still be
writing about the human condition.- John Lee Clark, a DeafBlind Minnesotan, is the publisher of The Tactile Mind Press and an award-winning rhetor and poet.
(http://www.thetactilemind.com/weekly/archives/ttmw38.txt)
Fookem & Bug found this beautiful poem. E.J. Pratt wrote about Titanic. We picked the interesting lines out of poem, saying that deaf, blind, and dumb would see it. He wrote:
And, was there not the Californian?
Many had seen her smoke just over there,
But two hours past - it seemed a harbour span -
So big, so close, she could be hailed, they said;
She must have heard the signals, seen the flare
Of those white stars and changed at once her course.
There under the Titanic’s foremast head,
A lamp from the look-out cage was flashing Morse.
No ship afloat, unless deaf, blind and dumb
To those three sets of signals but would come.
And when the whiz of a rocket bade men turn
Their faces to each other in concern
At shattering facts upon the deck, they found
Their hearts take reassurance with the sound
Of the violins from the gymnasium, where
The bandsmen in their blithe insouciance
Discharged the sudden tension of the air
With the fox-trot’s sublime irrelevance.
(Note: If you wish to read his long poem, please go to E.J. Pratt, Poems )
This entry was posted on Sunday, April 15th, 2007 at 3:01 am and is filed under Deaf History. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
6 Responses to “Deaf passengers on Titanic ?”
1. Alison Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Would a Deaf person have got through immigration in respective countries? Thought you had to be “healthy”, hence I question it.
2. fookemandbug Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Good question. I doubt because many Deaf people came to America in 1800’s. Laurent Clerc was one of them.
3. Shannon Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Very interesting. Beautiful research. Don’t give up.
4. john Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
My great grandfather was deaf. He was on titanic. I don’t know if he was deaf in that time. I don’t know if he became deaf later in his life. I will find out. You wrote many interesting articles.
5. sk Says:
April 17th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Very good
6. antonella » Blog Archive » Deaf passengers on Titanic ? Says:
April 17th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
[…] Ben Witherington wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptTitanic sank 95 years ago on April 15th. Did she carry the deaf passenagers? Nobody really knows. There were over a thousands of people riding on that ship. 1523 victims out of 2228 passenagers died in the frigid sea. …
You are more than welcome to post pictures, stories, etc.*** NO BASHING or ANYTHING NEGATIVES on this thread! Or I will report you to moderator!!!***
A view of the bow of the Titanic from a camera mounted
on the outside of the Mir I submersible.
Titanic sank 95 years ago on April 15th. Did she carry the deaf passengers? Nobody really knows. There were over a thousands of people riding on that ship. 1,523 victims out of 2,228 passengers died in the frigid sea. It sank 350 miles somewhere off Newfoundland. The ship was never found until 1985. Fookem and Bug were searching for the information about the deaf passengers however there is no evidence of any Deaf person riding on that ship. Maybe there was one or more. If you know anything, please email or leave your comment in here, thank you.
We the Fookem and Bug were at the “deep sea” and found some rare details you might never see before. They used the words such as “deaf”, “deafmute”, etc. Enjoy reading.
*THE MAIN THING
John Lee Clark
On Getting Published IV
As a publisher, I come across all sorts of writers and manuscripts. I
often encounter the notion that avoiding writing about signing community
life is the best way to go. Many writers, especially younger ones,
believe that Deaf content doesn’t sell, and so they pour their creative
juices into writing about hearing subjects.
Doing that as a matter of policy is a mistake. Think about it for a
minute. There are countless hearing writers. Publishing in the
mainstream is very competitive, and very few writers succeed. Why?
Because only a few of them have the most valuable gift a writer can
have: stories not already told.
Now, our writers are in almost automatic possession of this blessing,
sometimes called “outsiderhood.” Our literature is largely uncharted,
ripe for the picking. And the mainstream is always hungry for new food
for thought.
Let me illustrate a bit. Not long ago I received a short story
submission. It was about a hearing couple on the fated ship Titanic;
they are separated at the end when the husband must stay on board while
the wife is rowed away on a lifeboat. The writing was lovely and the
research made it all realistic. But I couldn’t publish it because that
story has been done to death. Now, what if the writer, who was Deaf, had
the couple be Deaf? The story would immediately become different from
all those thousands of Titanic stories.
I know of some writers who don’t want to write about Deaf issues. They
just want to tell stories. So they go in the opposite direction and
write about hearing people. This is not the solution, and in fact
presents more problems. One such problem is that the Deaf writer is
treading on almost foreign ground when they write about hearing
“culture.” Don’t get me wrong, some Deaf writers can pull it off and to
spectacular effect, but they are invariably experienced writers and wise
enough to choose stories they are sure will hold their own against
millions of voices out there.
So I recommend that writers, as a general guideline, write what they
know, drawing from their real life experiences. Signers are human
beings, too, and life in the signing community is also Life, so when one
writes about them, with or without the politics, one will still be
writing about the human condition.- John Lee Clark, a DeafBlind Minnesotan, is the publisher of The Tactile Mind Press and an award-winning rhetor and poet.
(http://www.thetactilemind.com/weekly/archives/ttmw38.txt)
Fookem & Bug found this beautiful poem. E.J. Pratt wrote about Titanic. We picked the interesting lines out of poem, saying that deaf, blind, and dumb would see it. He wrote:
And, was there not the Californian?
Many had seen her smoke just over there,
But two hours past - it seemed a harbour span -
So big, so close, she could be hailed, they said;
She must have heard the signals, seen the flare
Of those white stars and changed at once her course.
There under the Titanic’s foremast head,
A lamp from the look-out cage was flashing Morse.
No ship afloat, unless deaf, blind and dumb
To those three sets of signals but would come.
And when the whiz of a rocket bade men turn
Their faces to each other in concern
At shattering facts upon the deck, they found
Their hearts take reassurance with the sound
Of the violins from the gymnasium, where
The bandsmen in their blithe insouciance
Discharged the sudden tension of the air
With the fox-trot’s sublime irrelevance.
(Note: If you wish to read his long poem, please go to E.J. Pratt, Poems )
This entry was posted on Sunday, April 15th, 2007 at 3:01 am and is filed under Deaf History. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.
6 Responses to “Deaf passengers on Titanic ?”
1. Alison Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Would a Deaf person have got through immigration in respective countries? Thought you had to be “healthy”, hence I question it.
2. fookemandbug Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Good question. I doubt because many Deaf people came to America in 1800’s. Laurent Clerc was one of them.
3. Shannon Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Very interesting. Beautiful research. Don’t give up.
4. john Says:
April 15th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
My great grandfather was deaf. He was on titanic. I don’t know if he was deaf in that time. I don’t know if he became deaf later in his life. I will find out. You wrote many interesting articles.
5. sk Says:
April 17th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Very good
6. antonella » Blog Archive » Deaf passengers on Titanic ? Says:
April 17th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
[…] Ben Witherington wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptTitanic sank 95 years ago on April 15th. Did she carry the deaf passenagers? Nobody really knows. There were over a thousands of people riding on that ship. 1523 victims out of 2228 passenagers died in the frigid sea. …
