Why we can't discuss Politics and Religion

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Reba said:
soutthpaw said:
If anyone is guilty it is Jiro who tries to bring his theocratic hocus-pocus into every discussion and spread his righteous bigotry. religious morality is a politically correct term for religious bigotry and exists to breed hate and oppression of everyone that does not follow, in this case, Jiro's beliefs!
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Can't we have a logical discussion without blaming others by name? This is the real reason threads get locked. The debates get personal instead of staying on topic. Name calling, disparaging the motivations, intelligence and ethics of others, etc. Not conducive to reasonable debate.
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Listen to Reba!
 
soutthpaw said:
No because it is impossible to have a logical discussion with a theist because
Faith by definition is: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. or
firm belief in something for which there is no proof
impossible to have a logical argument when one side not has no logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence to explain their point of view but also sticks their head in the sand when confronted with the said logic and such that challenges their fairytale belief in their imaginary friends!
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It's impossible to have a logical discussion with people who have made up their minds based on preconceived stereotypes, are closed to any other viewpoints, and not wiling to have conversations that don't include insults.

Those who are secure in their position should welcome reasonable discussion of ideas.

Faith is Illogical and is based in fear, and threat of damnation plus the promise if eternal reward and feelings of belonging and superiority to those who do not hold your beliefs.
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That's your viewpoint. That's not the viewpoint of everyone.

Religion really is the first type of political structure and exists to control the masses. that has not change.
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In your opinion. Of course, we're not allowed to debate that. Too bad.
 
Reba said:
Again, attacking the other party on a personal level rather than keeping to the topic. This is the problem. Rather than sticking to a topic, accuse the other side of not being reasonable, and accusing the other side of default name calling before a topic is even brought up. Not a good way to enter in to a topical debate. Promoting stereotypes and generalizations aren't reasonable ways to begin a debate.

I'm a Christian, and I challenge you to ever find any name calling in my debate posts.

BTW, "on the religion front" the discussions are rarely limited to "one side" against another. There are usually multiple viewpoints.
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Sorry but where did you see name calling in my thread if you are referring to me.. I did not and never do intentionally name call anyone esp an individual in a discussion.. I believe the first namecalling was done by another in this thread "crazy assholes" I believe was the term used

It is pretty common for people to read into a statement words that are not there...
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Did you see Dunkin Donut new ad on TV? Someone said ' Turbo'!
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It's everywhere. On rare occasion I fix myself up, do my hair, etc. Yesterday, when I reached for my blowdrier, I noticed that on the box it says "turbo dryer".
 
soutthpaw said:
Sorry but where did you see name calling in my thread if you are referring to me.. I did not and never do intentionally name call anyone esp an individual in a discussion.. I believe the first namecalling was done by another in this thread "crazy assholes" I believe was the term used

It is pretty common for people to read into a statement words that are not there...
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You don't think referring to people as "...one side not [sic] has no logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence to explain their point of view but also sticks their head in the sand when confronted with the said logic and such that challenges their fairytale belief in their imaginary friends!" is derogatory?

Disparaging remarks about other members is name calling.
 
amylynne said:
It's everywhere. On rare occasion I fix myself up, do my hair, etc. Yesterday, when I reached for my blowdrier, I noticed that on the box it says "turbo dryer".
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Now that is an idea. I like that!! Turbo hair dryer!!!
 
Discussing "religion or politics" is hardly an absract activity. Each of us does have "some opinion" on these matters.

Why/what is the "purpose of our life"?

Obliviously much discussed since the beginning ot time!

Not to be overtly philosophical.
 
you can't do control on complain to increase think negative. it is prevent thread. because people tried. if suppose boring to waste of times thread!!

Honest I don't want to see mess thread mixing to up. it is screw up. I think so very havoc is on cause on thread. they want quiet to make sure peace. I dont' want to hear negative. I dont want to hear off topic. I avoid on off topic. I respect to policy of rules.. if people have break of against to rule of policy...(doesn't listen to follow rule policy) they are careful avoid on the reason.
I know research on another sites. many situation have problem worst increase will high.
 
Reba said:
You don't think referring to people as "...one side not [sic] has no logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence to explain their point of view but also sticks their head in the sand when confronted with the said logic and such that challenges their fairytale belief in their imaginary friends!" is derogatory?

Disparaging remarks about other members is name calling.
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There is only three(sometimes four) people who revert to name calling and personal attacks. Those people, instead of being banned themselves, have banned whole topics instead. If you don't want topics banned, only engage those members with the report button. That's the problem, members need to let the mods handle it.

The above statement, while not tactful, is not attacking any one member. It is a generalization of one side of a topic. Any member can give an argument against it.
 
soutthpaw said:
If anyone is guilty it is Jiro who tries to bring his theocratic hocus-pocus into every discussion and spread his righteous bigotry. religious morality is a politically correct term for religious bigotry and exists to breed hate and oppression of everyone that does not follow, in this case, Jiro's beliefs!
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that sounds quite very hateful.... oh the irony.
 
Reba said:
You don't think referring to people as "...one side not [sic] has no logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence to explain their point of view but also sticks their head in the sand when confronted with the said logic and such that challenges their fairytale belief in their imaginary friends!" is derogatory?

Disparaging remarks about other members is name calling.
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No I am just merely stating the truth and i did not attack anyone personally unlike many other who have posted on this forum... But your are more than welcome to prove the theist argument if you have any logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence.
Feel free to explain why so many use a work of fiction which contains more hate, murder and bigotry that any other work that was ever written I am all ears.. err make that eyes. your argument will fall on Deaf ears:laugh2::laugh2:
 
soutthpaw said:
Does the truth hurt Jiro?:naughty:
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the essence of truth is lost when a hypocrisy is involved.

oh btw - incorrect. you're just upset that my "theist argument" > their theist argument. ujelly?

h3F7F14F5
 
Smithtr said:
you can't do control on complain to increase think negative. it is prevent thread. because people tried. if suppose boring to waste of times thread!!

Honest I don't want to see mess thread mixing to up. it is screw up. I think so very havoc is on cause on thread. they want quiet to make sure peace. I dont' want to hear negative. I dont want to hear off topic. I avoid on off topic. I respect to policy of rules.. if people have break of against to rule of policy...(doesn't listen to follow rule policy) they are careful avoid on the reason.
I know research on another sites. many situation have problem worst increase will high.
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So why even click on the topic. that was intentionally started in violation of the rules probably know full well what would happen with it. it was quite obvious where it was going to go... :hmm::cool2:
 
Jiro said:
the essence of truth is lost when a hypocrisy is involved.

oh btw - incorrect. you're just upset that my "theist argument" > their theist argument. ujelly?

h3F7F14F5
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Well I guess we agree on something. your picture is very true.. If you, Sir follow any organized western religion then you are probably and expert on Hypocrisy... other than that what you wrote makes no sense to me... Have you been taking lessons from DrPhil???:naughty::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: Ohhh the "quotes" just can't "take it" anymore! what the hell is a "ujelly" anyway?
 
Foxrac said:
Your claim is no worse than someone say feel sorry for deafness.
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And what is your point?
You poor sorrowful soul for thinking it targets you when it has absolutely nothing to do with you. Sad you are so defensive for something not relating to you specifically, hmmmm.
But you sure did jump on that didn't ya !
 
soutthpaw said:
Well I guess we agree on something. your picture is very true.. If you, Sir follow any organized western religion then you are probably and expert on Hypocrisy... other than that what you wrote makes no sense to me... Have you been taking lessons from DrPhil???:naughty::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: Ohhh the "quotes" just can't "take it" anymore!
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I'm a Buddhist aka Vulcan. logic is all we know. live long and prosper, soutthpaw!
 
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