Why we can't discuss Politics and Religion

Status
Not open for further replies.
Steinhauer

Steinhauer

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 16, 2009
Messages
12,071
Reaction score
136
20130407.gif
 
Now that's funny as hell right there...LMAO !
 
I see. so you're the 5%'er.
 
You both failed in your attempts to ban me


Muhahahahahahahaha :giggle:
 
If anyone is guilty it is Jiro who tries to bring his theocratic hocus-pocus into every discussion and spread his righteous bigotry. religious morality is a politically correct term for religious bigotry and exists to breed hate and oppression of everyone that does not follow, in this case, Jiro's beliefs!
 
I think that religious and politic discussions have been set aside so that people can focus on cars with turbocharged engine, cats clapping, and deaf ferrets using ASL.
 
dereksbicycles said:
I think that religious and politic discussions have been set aside so that people can focus on cars with turbocharged engine, cats clapping, and deaf ferrets using ASL.
Click to expand...

Did you see Dunkin Donut new ad on TV? Someone said ' Turbo'!
 
Now that is the problem both sides seeing the other side as being crazy assholes right from the start . There is no way in Hell there can be an intelligent discussion with that kind of attitude . No wonder we can't discuss politics and religion.
 
Very funny thread...and very true! :laugh2:

Laura
 
soutthpaw said:
If anyone is guilty it is Jiro who tries to bring his theocratic hocus-pocus into every discussion and spread his righteous bigotry. religious morality is a politically correct term for religious bigotry and exists to breed hate and oppression of everyone that does not follow, in this case, Jiro's beliefs!
Click to expand...
Can't we have a logical discussion without blaming others by name? This is the real reason threads get locked. The debates get personal instead of staying on topic. Name calling, disparaging the motivations, intelligence and ethics of others, etc. Not conducive to reasonable debate.
 
OP tried got me in trouble with false claim over situation with private messaging yesterday. I didn't make fun of forum members but it was my claim to general population (especially legislators) - not related to forum members.

I didn't want him to got long suspension from this forum but moderator/admin made decision for some reason with violation of forum rule. Now, it isn't case anymore after he tried to got me in trouble and I can't help him if he gets consequence. It is his problem and he is responsible for his behavior.

If he wants to conversation with me, sure but he needs to be settled from various situation. I don't want to hear any political discussion or anything related to government from him. I lost interest in those topic with him after endless argument and I had cut the communication off to stop the discussion. He revealed some of my PM to public forum without my permission - that's against forum rule. I don't have any respect for him and not pay attention to him. I know that he has different philosophy and I tried to have fair conversation with him, but it didn't work for him. I have few different conversation style based on philosophy. I usually use liberal conversation in public forum and my friends who share similar philosophy as mine.

It is Alex's decision about political and religious discussion are not allowed. There were numerous posts got reported that overwhelmed the moderator system. He did gave other chance but nobody improved their behavior so he closed until further notice. If you have chance to stop all political discussion and religious discussion, as our behavior and cooperation are improved, so he may have good chance to allow us to discuss with those topic.

Please respect Alex's decision and start follow the forum rule. :grouphug:
 
Reba said:
Can't we have a logical discussion without blaming others by name? This is the real reason threads get locked. The debates get personal instead of staying on topic. Name calling, disparaging the motivations, intelligence and ethics of others, etc. Not conducive to reasonable debate.
Click to expand...

Yes, I agree with you. :)
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Now that is the problem both sides seeing the other side as being crazy assholes right from the start . There is no way in Hell there can be an intelligent discussion with that kind of attitude . No wonder we can't discuss politics and religion.
Click to expand...
Actually on the religion front, only one side uses, reason, logic, facts, empirical evidence to support their arguments. of which none exist for the other side... we are also able to refrain from name calling which is the default response by theists when they cannot provide any logical and credible support for their POV. BTW when someone starts calling the other names and using insults, what that really means is you have won and they have lost the argument but they are too butthurt and cowardly to admit it! same applies to Political arguments. but at least those folks try to use factual support (until they too get butthurt and start quoting various poorly written works of fiction they think are factual)
Tick Tick Tick.. the clock is ticking on this thread! :naughty:
 
Reba said:
Can't we have a logical discussion without blaming others by name? This is the real reason threads get locked. The debates get personal instead of staying on topic. Name calling, disparaging the motivations, intelligence and ethics of others, etc. Not conducive to reasonable debate.
Click to expand...
No because it is impossible to have a logical discussion with a theist because
Faith by definition is: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. or
firm belief in something for which there is no proof
impossible to have a logical argument when one side not has no logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence to explain their point of view but also sticks their head in the sand when confronted with the said logic and such that challenges their fairytale belief in their imaginary friends!

Faith is Illogical and is based in fear, and threat of damnation plus the promise if eternal reward and feelings of belonging and superiority to those who do not hold your beliefs. Religion really is the first type of political structure and exists to control the masses. that has not change.
 
soutthpaw said:
No because it is impossible to have a logical discussion with a theist because
Faith by definition is: strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof. or
firm belief in something for which there is no proof
impossible to have a logical argument when one side not only denies logic, facts, reason, science and empirical evidence to explain their point of view but also sticks their head in the sand when confronted with the same that challenges their fairytale belief in their imaginary friends!
Click to expand...

Do you know that religious discussion isn't allowed?
 
Well, without naming names, isn't someone in this thread thinking they are targeted in another thread for someone saying they feel sorry for those with allergies? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, makes you wonder....
 
sonocativo said:
Well, without naming names, isn't someone in this thread thinking they are targeted in another thread for someone saying they feel sorry for those with allergies? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, makes you wonder....
Click to expand...

Your claim is no worse than someone say feel sorry for deafness.
 
soutthpaw said:
Actually on the religion front, only one side uses, reason, logic, facts, empirical evidence to support their arguments. of which none exist for the other side... we are also able to refrain from name calling which is the default response by theists when they cannot provide any logical and credible support for their POV….
Click to expand...
Again, attacking the other party on a personal level rather than keeping to the topic. This is the problem. Rather than sticking to a topic, accuse the other side of not being reasonable, and accusing the other side of default name calling before a topic is even brought up. Not a good way to enter in to a topical debate. Promoting stereotypes and generalizations aren't reasonable ways to begin a debate.

I'm a Christian, and I challenge you to ever find any name calling in my debate posts.

BTW, "on the religion front" the discussions are rarely limited to "one side" against another. There are usually multiple viewpoints.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top