Todd Akin medival concept

[caz12]

I afraid i do not know how to do a link or if doing new thread properly so bair with me....
Todd Akin one of American senitor for missouri has stated it impossable for a woman to get pregnant if she has been raped,he is going on a 13th centuary law passed in england by men at the time believing a womans body closed down when raped and she could not get pregnant,if on the other hand she got pregnant then the thinking was she enjoyed it enjoyed and punishment dished out to her.
Now America got republican running for goverment who believes this awful crap,not unlike fudementalist in moslem counties....men like him make me want to vomit,surely people in america do something about this idiot

 

[runawayjett13]

Here is a link to an article about it: 'Legitimate rape' comment by GOP's Todd Akin shakes up Missouri Senate race - CSMonitor.com

Unfortunate that there are still people this ignorant being voted into office.

 

[caz12]

it do worry you when people like this have such strong imput in world affairs...not knowing american political systems i assume all the presidents have been senators at one time and one day an idiot like him could run for office..What just as bad thousands must think this aswel..he totally laughable but so sad such badly educated man has views like this....i know this site no like political things but i dont look at it that way,i think every one in world should shout about people like him,nip it in bud

 

[Reba]

it do worry you when people like this have such strong imput in world affairs...not knowing american political systems i assume all the presidents have been senators at one time and one day an idiot like him could run for office....

American presidents do not have to be senators first. They don't even have to hold any political office prior to becoming President. For example, Dwight D. Eisenhower never held a political office prior to becoming President.

Dwight D. Eisenhower Biography - Birthday, Photos - Who2.com

A Century of U. S. Presidents: Qualifications: Education, Experience and Background Events Compared | Suite101.com

 

[soulchill]

American presidents do not have to be senators first. They don't even have to hold any political office prior to becoming President. For example, Dwight D. Eisenhower never held a political office prior to becoming President.

Dwight D. Eisenhower Biography - Birthday, Photos - Who2.com

A Century of U. S. Presidents: Qualifications: Education, Experience and Background Events Compared | Suite101.com

cheat sheet - only 16 Presidents were Senators before...
U.S. Senate: Art & History Home > People > Senators > Senators Who Became President

 

[ambrosia]

I just can't get past the term' legitimate' rape. He obviously must fall into that category of people who think the woman was asking for it. grrrrr and to actually believe that a woman's reproductive system has it's own brain apparently and knows where the sperm came from is just mind boggling stupid. I was literally flabbergasted when I saw stuff about thin on Fb last night. This btw, this is the same man that wants to halt federal funding for his state's lunch program that feeds like 650,000 kids.

He's not just republican, he's a Tea Party backed repub, that pretty much says it all fro me. Know what's hysterical he serves on the House's Science Space and Technology Committee.....pretty scarey huh....science doesn't seem to be his strong suit.

 

[TXgolfer]

A) The guy was not a Senator yet, he was running for McCaskill's seat

B) He didn't say "impossible"

C) What he said was stupid and he admitted it was stupid.

D) He was called out by people in his own party

E) I thought these threads were no longer allowed

 

[ambrosia]

A) The guy was not a Senator yet, he was running for McCaskill's seat

B) He didn't say "impossible"

C) What he said was stupid and he admitted it was stupid.

D) He was called out by people in his own party

E) I thought these threads were no longer allowed

No, he's Congressman. I don't really think of this in terms of political.....just a person saying and believing extremely stupid things, especially in this day and age. It's shocking that anyone would say or believe such misogynistic drivel.

I was talking to my sister about this, she said she doesn't think he believes it. But that he's looking for votes and hoping that this is the kind of stupid thing that he believes his voters believe and that it will appeal to them. She may not be far off lol

 

[saywhatkid]

E) I thought these threads were no longer allowed

No doubt it is political and the thread gets locked. That didn't stop someone from starting a political thread on the Kerry Kennedy's driving accident, after the political section was closed.

It does hurt more when they come after your side, no?

And yes, I do not blame the GOP for the narrow mindedness of one member. There are idiots in all walks of life.

 

[TXgolfer]

No doubt it is political and the thread gets locked. That didn't stop someone from starting a political thread on the Kerry Kennedy's driving accident, after the political section was closed.

It does hurt more when they come after your side, no?

And yes, I do not blame the GOP for the narrow mindedness of one member. There are idiots in all walks of life.

Actually, it doesn't hurt at all. What the guy said was stupid. I am glad many members of the party are wilingl to risk the McCaskill seat to do the right thing. Its unlikely they can win the MO election with another candidate on this short of notice.

 

[TXgolfer]

No, he's Congressman. I don't really think of this in terms of political.....just a person saying and believing extremely stupid things, especially in this day and age. It's shocking that anyone would say or believe such misogynistic drivel.

I was talking to my sister about this, she said she doesn't think he believes it. But that he's looking for votes and hoping that this is the kind of stupid thing that he believes his voters believe and that it will appeal to them. She may not be far off lol

Kind of. What happens this time of year is that candidates are being filled with all kinds of tidbits from 100's of sources. When they go off script these tidbits come out. IF the tidbits are false or looney they are screwed. It's like when someone tells a joke that bombs but it sounded good in their head. This was very similar to Biden's "chains" gaffe. I'm sure that sounded better in his head than it ended up playing out.

 

[drphil]

Todd Akin has decided to remain the GOP senate candidate-Missouri. Source: CNN tonight

 

[Foxrac]

I afraid i do not know how to do a link or if doing new thread properly so bair with me....
Todd Akin one of American senitor for missouri has stated it impossable for a woman to get pregnant if she has been raped,he is going on a 13th centuary law passed in england by men at the time believing a womans body closed down when raped and she could not get pregnant,if on the other hand she got pregnant then the thinking was she enjoyed it enjoyed and punishment dished out to her.
Now America got republican running for goverment who believes this awful crap,not unlike fudementalist in moslem counties....men like him make me want to vomit,surely people in america do something about this idiot

You supposed not discuss about those because political discussion isn't allowed in this forum.

I already know that Todd Akin is just crazy politician and that why I refused to vote any right wing politicians.

 

[Steinhauer]

You supposed not discuss about those because political discussion isn't allowed in this forum.

I already know that Todd Akin is just crazy politician and that why I refused to vote any right wing politicians.

I didn't know you lived in Missouri now.

 

[Jiro]

I didn't know you lived in Missouri now.

he's not referring to Missouri politicians. He said "....any right wing politicians" as Todd Akin seems to be what overall GOP represents as.

"Legitimate Rape"? seriously?

 

[Steinhauer]

Todd Akin is correct, in incidences of forcible rape, pregnancy is rare. The current statistic, in the U.S. is 5% (like snow in Miami - according to one Federal Judge).

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/08/how-often-does-rape-lead-to-pregnancy/261307/

He has since apologized for his gaffe concerning how a woman's body can fight off rape by not getting pregnant.


Biden still has not apologized for his gaffe concerning slavery. If this topic is allowed, then it should be shown how all politician's are prone to gaffes, but not all are ready to apologize for them.

Politicians - regardless of political affiliation - will taste their own foot from time to time.

 

[Jiro]

Todd Akin is correct, in incidences of forcible rape, pregnancy is rare. The current statistic, in the U.S. is 5% (like snow in Miami - according to one Federal Judge).

How Often Does Rape Lead to Pregnancy? - James Hamblin - The Atlantic

He has since apologized for his gaffe concerning how a woman's body can fight off rape by not getting pregnant.

no.... That's not what he said.

Todd Akin said “It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”

seriously? what a lame-duck explanation.

Biden still has not apologized for his gaffe concerning slavery. If this topic is allowed, then it should be shown how all politician's are prone to gaffes, but not all are ready to apologize for them.

Politicians - regardless of political affiliation - will taste their own foot from time to time.

the difference is... Biden's gaffe regarding slavery is not a representative of his view on any legislation bill. Akin's comment clearly reveals that he is opposed to abortion and his belief that women somehow have an ability to "shut down" to prevent pregnancy in case of "legitimate rape".

 

[TXgolfer]

no.... That's not what he said.

Todd Akin said “It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”

seriously? what a lame-duck explanation.

Some studies do support his statement. Cal is planning to do a new study on this. The topic is still debatable. It was a stupid thing to say though.

 

[Jiro]

Some studies do support his statement. Cal is planning to do a new study on this. The topic is still debatable. It was a stupid thing to say though.

um...... no....

his statement was that the reason why pregnancy resulting from rape is rare is because the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down "if it’s a legitimate rape."

NO studies have supported his statement.
ALL doctors have disputed his statement.
ALL rape survivors disputed his statement.

 

[ambrosia]

forcible rape

Ahhh the term Ryan and Akin tried to put in a bill but got thrown out because such language is offensive. Rape is rape, try to wrap your head around that idea for a second. If your daughter was drugged or coerced, intimidated into capitulation....that's rape, then come and talk to me about "forcible rape". Whether or not it's rare or not has nothing to do with it. Do you know how hard it is to get pregnant period? There's only a few days window in a month where a woman can get pregnant at all. If she gets raped on day that's not one of those days (which is likely!!! there's 30ish days in a month they'd have to get really lucky to land on one of those 3ish fertile days)) she's not going to get pregnant. That's why the statistics would be low, not because he body would shut it down. That is so asinine. This isn't rocket science it's obvious why the statistics would be low for it.

rape1    [reyp] Show IPA noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
noun
1.
the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.

it's despicable to try to classify the degree of a woman's violation. This is where this thinking came from, this isn't new. Let's say a woman says no, her no is ignored but she is too scared of the guy to fight him off. Guess what, she was still raped. But according to this gibberish, if she got pregnant, well see her rape wasn't legit, since she was able to get pregnant that means she wanted it, was asking for it. The "no" was just for show.

going to go bash my head into something repeatedly now.......