Executive fired for bullying Chik-Fil-A employee

[Foxrac]

My "opinions" as you call them are actually factual. Look at the statistics, Foxrac. Look at the number of children that are coming from unplanned pregnancies that are a result of sexual encounters that shouldn't have taken place! This is precisely why I said that abstinence will prevent unwanted babies to be born! You said people are tempted to have sex, but that does NOT mean they should go out and have sex. This comes down to controlling your mind and saying, "NO!" Obviously, the word "no" isn't in your vocabulary.

You claimed nothing is factual? Everything I stated is factual as you need to open your eyes and look around you! You can see my claim of people having sex at a younger and younger age is sound and valid!

I feel sorry for you because one day, you'll find out you are wrong. That's all I shall say.

I'm saying your view is still opinion, not directly at statistic.

I disagree with you about abstinence and it is my choice to have sex whatever I want. It is my responsibility to understand about safe sex.

Use condom is effective to protect against unwanted pregnancy, also there are birth control pills too.

No, I'm confident that my statement is correct and no doubt about you will be regret about anti-gay statement eventually.

 

[Foxrac]

Exactly! This is where true love comes in. If one has true love for his/her child then he/she will teach them on what is right and wrong in order for them to make the right choices in life.

It doesn't work when they turns to be gay, lesbian or bisexual.

Sex orientation isn't choice.

 

[Foxrac]

Let me make something clear since you opened a can of worms! My point here is that if one claims to be religious then they must follow their religious book to a T. So for a Christian (I am only stating this because you brought it up), they adhere to the teachings of the Bible. The Bible teaches that homosexuality is wrong. Now, if one supports homosexuality then logic dictates this person is not a Christian. That's all I will say.

I disagree with you and it is up to Christians to support gay rights, whatever they want and they will be still Christians if they support gay rights. There are a lot of gay churches.

At overall, that's your opinion.

 

[Reba]

...Obviously, the word "no" isn't in your vocabulary.

It's not necessary to make personal comments.

 

[respectyoda]

I'm saying your view is still opinion, not directly at statistic.

I disagree with you about abstinence and it is my choice to have sex whatever I want. It is my responsibility to understand about safe sex.

Use condom is effective to protect against unwanted pregnancy, also there are birth control pills too.

No, I'm confident that my statement is correct and no doubt about you will be regret about anti-gay statement eventually.

Your ignorance still shows, Foxrac. Condoms DO NOT prevent unwanted pregnancies. Condoms can break at any given time. Hence, abstinence is 100% effective. Birth control pills can be ineffective. Let me share you anecdote.

A friend of mine many years ago was on birth control for several years while she was with her boyfriend. They regularly had sex and one day, she found out she was pregnant!!! The doctor told her that the effects of the birth control wore off as the body got used to it!

It is not your confidence that makes you say that as it is your pride.

I disagree with you and it is up to Christians to support gay rights, whatever they want and they will be still Christians if they support gay rights. There are a lot of gay churches.

At overall, that's your opinion.

Let me make something clear here. You can't pick what you want to follow and what you don't want to follow. Either you follow the entire book or you don't. It is the same with a citizen of a certain country, you cannot pick what laws you want to follow and what laws you don't want to follow!

For example, if one is an American citizen and decides he wants to follow all, but one amendment. The First Amendment is what he doesn't want to follow. Does this make it okay for him to yell fire in a movie theater when there isn't one?

 

[Foxrac]

It's not necessary to make personal comments.

Thanks, Reba.

 

[respectyoda]

It's not necessary to make personal comments.

It was not a personal comment. It was made to illustrate a certain point.

 

[Foxrac]

Your ignorance still shows, Foxrac. Condoms DO NOT prevent unwanted pregnancies. Condoms can break at any given time. Hence, abstinence is 100% effective. Birth control pills can be ineffective. Let me share you anecdote.

A friend of mine many years ago was on birth control for several years while she was with her boyfriend. They regularly had sex and one day, she found out she was pregnant!!! The doctor told her that the effects of the birth control wore off as the body got used to it!

It is not your confidence that makes you say that as it is your pride.

Let me make something clear here. You can't pick what you want to follow and what you don't want to follow. Either you follow the entire book or you don't. It is the same with a citizen of a certain country, you cannot pick what laws you want to follow and what laws you don't want to follow!

For example, if one is an American citizen and decides he wants to follow all, but one amendment. The First Amendment is what he doesn't want to follow. Does this make it okay for him to yell fire in a movie theater when there isn't one?

I'm not saying about 100% effective, the condom is 99% effective and 1% isn't effective. That's best than nothing and birth control pills are very effective, however there is no guaranteed about never get pregnant. There are some women who forgot to take it or not follow doctor's direction so they will face pregnancy risk. The condom needed to be inspected before use it.

Your statement on abstinence is 100% effective against unwanted pregnancy is TRUE but... it isn't work for everyone so use safe sex is other option if they want to have sex. Everybody have choice: abstinence or safe sex.

I'm not ignorant but just disagree with you about EVERYONE must be abstinence since if they want sex so they can use safe sex.

I'm free to make choice with my lifestyle, long as I follow federal/state law.

 

[Foxrac]

It was not a personal comment. It was made to illustrate a certain point.

I felt it was personal comment.

I do say "no" in some cases when I don't want or not agree.

 

[ambrosia]

Exactly! This is where true love comes in. If one has true love for his/her child then he/she will teach them on what is right and wrong in order for them to make the right choices in life.

No, if they have true, as in unconditional love, they will not feel the need to change their child.

You're still preaching. Clearly you do not have respect for other people's beliefs, you only have respect for yoda hmmmmm?

 

[Jolie77]

There is transcript in link.
Adam Smith, Chick-Fil-A Drive-Through Bully, Hassles Fast Food Employee And Gets Fired (VIDEO)

Thanks for the link, Foxrac.


Anyway, Bullying is one thing and it's funny how adults are still bullying when we preach our children not to do the bullying. Yep, double standards at it's finest.

P.S., I smell that the thread will be closed, no shock here, ha.

 

[Foxrac]

Thanks for the link, Foxrac.

Anyway, Bullying is one thing and it's funny how adults are still bullying when we preach our children not to do the bullying. Yep, double standards at it's finest.

P.S., I smell that the thread will be closed, no shock here, ha.

Of course, no doubt.

I believe they shouldn't create other gay debate thread or event current that related to GLBT at beginning so I already know there will be heat debate. There will be derailing, political/religious discussion and personal attack. That's not good.

 

[Foxrac]

No, if they have true, as in unconditional love, they will not feel the need to change their child.

You're still preaching. Clearly you do not have respect for other people's beliefs, you only have respect for yoda hmmmmm?

Yup, I have to encourage him to respect members because they don't share same views as him. Both of airportcop and I are ability to end the debate by let agree to disagree, also respect other's belief.

It is not my wish to get into extreme debate with other members. He has own stance/belief and I have other stance/belief so both of us should respect as well.

 

[Jolie77]

Of course, no doubt.

I believe they shouldn't create other gay debate thread or event current that related to GLBT at beginning so I already know there will be heat debate. There will be derailing, political/religious discussion and personal attack. That's not good.

Well, It's no brainer to separate it but almost everything is in relation with current events. You can't basically avoid it because it always tend to fall in with association of religion or politics. I'm fine with the debate itself only if it is clean and healthy without name-calling. To debate, you have to learn to have some thick skin because otherwise, you're not going to be able to hold your feet down. Unfortunately, emotion is one of the thing that people (including myself) allow to get the best of themselves.

 

[respectyoda]

No, if they have true, as in unconditional love, they will not feel the need to change their child.

You're still preaching. Clearly you do not have respect for other people's beliefs, you only have respect for yoda hmmmmm?

Actually, if they have unconditional love for their child then they will want to help them make the right choices in life. Unconditional love does not just make a parent feed a child, clothe a child, give a bed for the child to sleep in, and so on. It is also preparing them for life in which they know what is right and wrong in order to lead a happy life.

I am only stating the truths in which I hope will help others consider what they think, feel, and believe as well as to what is true and what is not.

As for your signature, it does matter what we believe because what we believe dictates our actions! :-p

 

[Foxrac]

Well, It's no brainer to separate it but almost everything is in relation with current events. You can't basically avoid it because it always tend to fall in with association of religion or politics. I'm fine with the debate itself only if it is clean and healthy without name-calling. To debate, you have to learn to have some thick skin because otherwise, you're not going to be able to hold your feet down. Unfortunately, emotion is one of the thing that people (including myself) allow to get the best of themselves.

Yup, I agree with you.

 

[respectyoda]

Well, It's no brainer to separate it but almost everything is in relation with current events. You can't basically avoid it because it always tend to fall in with association of religion or politics. I'm fine with the debate itself only if it is clean and healthy without name-calling. To debate, you have to learn to have some thick skin because otherwise, you're not going to be able to hold your feet down. Unfortunately, emotion is one of the thing that people (including myself) allow to get the best of themselves.

Nearly everything in this world is religiously charged. Emotions does hinder people from understanding certain truths. This is where people have to consider something from most, if not all, perspectives and realize which perspective constitutes what is true.

This world is full of those who lean to their own understanding in which they follow only through on what they think is true without analyzing on whether it is actually true or not.

 

[ambrosia]

Actually, if they have unconditional love for their child then they will want to help them make the right choices in life. Unconditional love does not just make a parent feed a child, clothe a child, give a bed for the child to sleep in, and so on. It is also preparing them for life in which they know what is right and wrong in order to lead a happy life.

I am only stating the truths in which I hope will help others consider what they think, feel, and believe as well as to what is true and what is not.

As for your signature, it does matter what we believe because what we believe dictates our actions! :-p

I disagree, but I think the reason why you can't see that by trying to change your child, you are judging them, and putting conditions on your love. You can believe something, and it can be right, for you , but you really should respect the fact that people are free to believe otherwise, and in their minds they are just as right as you feel you are. Someone trying to change their child is not respecting them, and certainly not 'loving" them.

No, no it doesn't. Example, Westboro Baptists have some pretty strong beliefs, but what they do, is atrocious. People do not always practice what they preach either. Like they say, going to church doesn't make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. If someone is walking through life passing judgements on everyone, and pushing their beliefs down everyone's throat, they're not being very Christian. A person actions are between them and God. Also, you can not believe in God, or believe in a higher power but not any one organized religion, and still be a good moral person. It's what you do, how treat other people that matter.

 

[respectyoda]

I disagree, but I think the reason why you can't see that by trying to change your child, you are judging them, and putting conditions on your love. You can believe something, and it can be right, for you , but you really should respect the fact that people are free to believe otherwise, and in their minds they are just as right as you feel you are. Someone trying to change their child is not respecting them, and certainly not 'loving" them.

No, no it doesn't. Example, Westboro Baptists have some pretty strong beliefs, but what they do, is atrocious. People do not always practice what they preach either. Like they say, going to church doesn't make you any more Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. If someone is walking through life passing judgements on everyone, and pushing their beliefs down everyone's throat, they're not being very Christian. A person actions are between them and God. Also, you can not believe in God, or believe in a higher power but not any one organized religion, and still be a good moral person. It's what you do, how treat other people that matter.

Everything comes down to judgment. We are called to exercise judgment when raising children. We have to teach children on what is right and wrong. We correct children out of love so they will not make that wrong choice again.

With what you have said, your words actually prove my words in which I said what one believes dictates their actions! With your example, it proves that when people believe it is okay to act upon their thoughts, they will act upon them. This is precisely why there are many religious people out there that will claim to act according to their beliefs, however, what they have believed otherwise in their minds are what they have truly acted upon.

People will feel that things are being pushed down their throats as to speak, but that's only because they feel they are right and the other person or people are wrong. This is where pride comes in. They will not want to consider what the other person has to say. This is why we are called to teach people on what is right and wrong. Think of the story of Jonah. If he didn't go and teach the people of the great city of Nineveh, they would have been destroyed.

This is why I said earlier that we are here to help one another. I gave the example of helping a neighbor realize that his smoking habits are detrimental to his health. Does unconditional love make one sit back and let that neighbor smoke on to his death? Of course not! The person would try to encourage that neighbor to quit smoking. What I am doing is no different, Ambrosia.

 

[Jolie77]

Nearly everything in this world is religiously charged. Emotions does hinder people from understanding certain truths. This is where people have to consider something from most, if not all, perspectives and realize which perspective constitutes what is true.

This world is full of those who lean to their own understanding in which they follow only through on what they think is true without analyzing on whether it is actually true or not.

This is why a lot of things are clouded. You can't believe everything you hear (or rather, see in this case).