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I am not calling CFA a hate group. It is a food establishment with an executive that has Christian opinions.
I didn't say that you did but others have!
I am not calling CFA a hate group. It is a food establishment with an executive that has Christian opinions.
Foxrac, to be quite real and honest, neither one of us can totally, truthfully and honestly say that one or the other is telling the partial truth or whole truth here! This is where beliefs, feelings and opinions all come in to play here. It's a real shame that more of us can't get along on here without rock throwing and finger pointing (not referring to you)! Looks like this one will be locked up pretty soon as well! Sad, because healthy debate is good & fun! Good night all!
It is really not any different than you and others calling Chick-Fil-A and FRC anti-gay hate groups is it??![]()
Oh, wait, I found one - that's non-parstian article about resolution statement and FRC lobbying report. That's all I found for your need.
http://www.alldeaf.com/2088524-post56.html
You are correct about political discussion is getting more uglier and stressed, especially much worse during midterm election and presidential election, known as even years (1988, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002).
Most, not all news are biased and have own faction, that why it is very difficult to find a source that you want to be unbiased, I found FRC report is completely unbiased, unedited, uncut.
I trust some conservative statements when they contain fact and not much bias.
Well, what I can tell you from looking at both of those links is that there is very, very little information if any provided for what reason FRC may or may not be lobbying against it or why! One would have to openly and truly speak with a representative of FRC to understand what they believe about the resolution and why. We certainly don't have enough of that information available to us to make that decision or judgement do we?! At least I don't and won't!
I'm not calling CFA as anti-gay organization, I never call like these, CFA is private business.
FRC stated that they are pro-traditional family organization, however people who are tolerant or support homosexuality see FRC as anti-gay organization. SPLC classified FRC as hate group.
It is just like people who are friendly to black people, see NSM (National Socialist Movement) as anti-black/colored organization. SPLC classified NSM as hate group.
You have remember about Christians are broader so they can be in different classes. You could offend gay/lesbian if you label them as Christian hater because majority of GL are Christians.
Only problem is some organizations aren't 100% transplant.
SPLC is another group that makes broad based opinionated and biased generalizations about lots of groups and people. It is not my job to judge others unless their behavior is obviously wrong! Then when that happens I am not judging the people but their actions or behaviors. We all certainly make mistakes and usually daily in my case! As far as most gays being Christians, I would like to seem some stats on that to believe it?! I am not saying that gays can't be Christians or as you already know that I hate gays. I am just not supportive of their lifestyle or gay marriage.
That's the case for most everyone and every organization in life including our president!![]()
No, that's not misunderstanding. I'm voicing my opinion, that it.
The abstinence isn't option if people want sex for just fun so they have to use safe sex.
That's your opinion about statement on homosexuality, sex and unmarried couples. You just have old fashioned brain.
CrazyPaul is free to cuss whatever he wants, long as it doesn't offend members. It doesn't matter and the people use anal sex.
Or we can say anal sex. Anyway, remember "Love Thy Neighbor"? That also means don't judge people of any kind.
HOWEVER, it is normal for a small portion of the population to be gay. Especially in modern society. If you want to blame anyone, how about the companies that manufacture pesticides with estrogenic properties, chemicals that have the same influence on the body as that of estrogen? There's estrogen in the water supply because the MUNICIPAL WATER TREATMENT PLANTS CAN'T FILTER IT OUT. It's my understanding that they can only treat for organisms and clean up the water supply as far as dirt and algae goes. That is why they say not to flush drugs down the toilet. (!)
Now, how about blaming the doctor team who operated on my Mom for a plate-and-pin procedure on her leg while she was carrying me? She felt she was pregnant with me, but the doctor laughed at her because he couldn't possibly believe that she was finally having a baby at 43 years old. No way. She never conceived, to doctors' knowledge. I was asleep for days before I awoke again after the surgery. And guess what? Not only am I deaf, but lesbian, and that's not all of it, either. I'm not out on another thing yet.
It's modern man who screwed up every GD thing. :birdflipping: I didn't ask to be born like this. Why would someone be gay in a straight world, write left-handed in a right-handed world, etc.? It is HARD to discover these things about oneself, because a person is not in the majority, not like everyone else. It feels like being an outsider. BUT, the price to pay if you are an outsider trying to "fit in" is the ultimate price, and that is yourself. Are you going to lose YOURSELF if you are going to go against your own personal nature, or are you going to lose the friends and possibly family who only know you and maybe love you for the shell that you wear around yourself? They don't love you, they love the role you hide behind. My family loves who I am, and I have a cousin who is married to someone in a similar situation. And I have a nephew who just came out. You stand to gain friends who know and like you for who you are.
WHAT IS IN THE WATER SUPPLY?
SPLC is doing good job to classify whichever group is hate and they only get information based on group's mission, probably not based on their strong opinion but it is just how groups looking. I think you should be scare because hate group, like Nation of Islam isn't good and they are anti-white group. You could be victim of hate crime for any reason, especially attacking on you because you are Christian.
Speaking about majority of GL are Christians, are based on my experience, there is no statistic due to lack of representation, I know about gay/lesbians and been in their villages before. There are many gay churches as well.
Hate is strong word and if you aren't comfort with gay so why are you bother to discuss like that? I think you live in city that where gay people are uncommon and it isn't hard for you to ignore them.
Oh wow, I can't believe about ignorant words are you using. :roll:
Majority of gay/lesbian population are Christian.
Airportcop,
What are you doing if you have future child, or future child from immediate family that is gay/lesbian or bisexual?
Well, people shouldn't be having sex for fun because look at this upside down world. People are having sex for fun and making unwanted babies! This is precisely why I said abstience should be taught!
Look at all the TV shows! They promote sex, but do not promote safe sex practices! This causes young people such as high schoolers to think sex is fun when they don't understand the consequences!
TV shows of old would show parents sleeping in different bedrooms! This is why I said TV is now educating the children of this generation when it should be the parents who teach them, especially when it has to do with sex!
My statements are not merely opinions as they are factual. It is not about being old fashioned. It is about adhering to standards, morals, and values. The reason why people are getting pregnant at a younger and younger age, homosexuality, bad language, and so on is because they are not being taught those standards, morals, and values!
As for CrazyPaul, his language does offend people. This is why I said earlier that one must choose his/her words very carefully because the tongue is unruly and full of poison!
There was a thread that was closed a while back that I stated that homosexuality is NOT part of one's DNA. Therefore, one is not born a homosexual. That's all I will say on that.
Let me correct you, Foxrac. The majority of gay/lesbian population will call themselves Christians. However, they are not Christians because homosexuality is something true Christians are against.
Anyways, let's leave religion out of this debate since you are blind to the truth.
That's your opinion.
People are free to have sex whatever they want, regardless on reasons and they have to use safe sex if they don't want STD or unwanted pregnancy.
The abstinence isn't work when people are tempting to have sex so use safe sex is very effective.
That's your opinion, period, nothing is factual.
Sex orientation is from born, that's not choice matter and usually sex orientation isn't revealed until late childhood or teenagers when they start have attraction. I was born bisexual and still have attraction to both genders.
If you disagree with that so your statement is just opinion.
Oh wow, other anti-gay comment, also it is your opinion too.
The homosexuality is in middle of disputed when come with debate about Christianity. There are many mainstream/moderate Christians support gay rights, however some of them don't support gay marriage only, but still support other gay rights. If there are gay/lesbian Christians so they are still Christian, regardless on your bigot statement.
Well, this thread has went into religious discussion and it isn't my fault because other members started brought up.
I really don't plan on having any more children as I am approaching the mid century mark! Plus I know what causes them! If I did have a gay child I would love them but I would not love their actions in being gay. Once again my opinion and once again my beliefs! It would be hard to deal with though!
I really don't plan on having any more children as I am approaching the mid century mark! Plus I know what causes them! If I did have a gay child I would love them but I would not love their actions in being gay. Once again my opinion and once again my beliefs! It would be hard to deal with though!