Chik-fil-a doesn't support gay marriage

[Foxrac]

So, let me get this straight .... you have a problem with someone professing their faith, and actually spending their own money and putting it where their mouth is?


Wow .... I should have stayed in line.

OK, I have already heard the "You didn't build that" now is it going to be "You can't buy that"?

Do you have difficult to understand my post?

It looks like you and other members haven't look so hard.

Anti-gay organizations are big threat to us and there are many gay people already being victim of bullying and attacking by people who are anti-gay, that's serious problem for us and the anti-gay organizations don't want to help at all, they want ENTIRE OF HOMOSEXUALITY to be illegal, not gay marriage only.

 

[Rio]

It's not just what he said, it's because he makes huge donations to organizations that work to stop gay marriage legislation at state levels.

He's entitled to do that.He's getting stoned and mocked by everyone over this.He didn't say , I hate gays, all he said, he don't support same sex marriage. I mean, I love amazon.com and they support gay marriages. I was a bit let down , still love amazon for books and other stuff.

 

[Jiro]

CFA is not close minded. Their management has moral convictions that they support, just like many other corporations do. Just because their convictions don't toe the line with others, why should they be attacked? Whatever happened to freedom of speech, and freedom of religion?

CFA treats every customer with equality.

I don't know what kind of "unity" you're referring to. I thought the buzzword these days was diversity.

moral conviction? sounds familiar..... like segregations and no women's rights....

 

[Jiro]

If the managers do kick them out, they'll be accused of being hateful homophobic gay bashers.


I never, never pointed any finger at you. I already said in a previous post that I wasn't referring to you. Sigh....

no. they'll be under investigation for discrimination.

 

[Rio]

moral conviction? sounds familiar..... like segregations and no women's rights....

Can you please expand on the segregation and women's rights? I am lost here.

 

[Jiro]

I don't hate homosexuals and I am indifferent to homosexuality.

but you would not defend them if they were being humiliated by close-minded people, right?

 

[Steinhauer]

Do you have difficult to understand my post?

It looks like you and other members haven't look so hard.

Anti-gay organizations are big threat to us and there are many gay people already being victim of bullying and attacking by people who are anti-gay, that's serious problem for us and the anti-gay organizations don't want to help at all, they want ENTIRE OF HOMOSEXUALITY to be illegal, not gay marriage only.

I do not think Chik-Fil-A consumers are saying that homosexuality should be illegal.

To even try to outlaw it is silly. That is almost like saying "Let's all outlaw deafness", or "Let's outlaw short people".

The issue you are bringing up is one we have discussed in the past. That is the current legal definition of marriage and the DOMA. I know you view this as anti-gay rights, I know you feel very strongly that you are right.

I respect your opinion, but I do not share it. I have a different opinion. Having a different opinion, politically, does not equate to hatred. I would be completely on your side and fight any legislation that tried to outlaw homosexuality. I know it is "mostly" not a choice and something someone is born with. There is not much choice in sexual orientation - but often times, there is always a choice.

I will just leave it at that and say I will agree to disagree.

 

[Steinhauer]

but you would not defend them if they were being humiliated by close-minded people, right?

I have in the past and would do so today. People should mind their own business and not have any socio-political agendas shoved in their face.

 

[Jiro]

Source: PICKET: Chicago GOP to file complaint against Rahm Emanuel over Chick fil A flap - Washington Times

Chicago is not the only city with the Mayor that is attempting to do so. Liberal politicians from Boston, Philadelphia and San Francisco are threatening to block CFA to do any further business.

Criticizing is one thing but to use their position to say otherwise is another thing. That's not how it should be handled.

ah now I understand. threatening to block CFA to do any further business simply because of their anti-gay view would be illegal.

 

[Jiro]

I was asking silly questions because I was attempting to show you how silly it is to be mad at the CEO of Chik-Fil-A for his religious views.

He is entitled to them, just as you are entitled to your opinion. If you had a business that served a good product, I would not boycott your business because your opinions are different from mine.

Get it now?

ah... so if we have a problem with your view, we're being silly. if you have a problem with our view, you're not being silly.

ok. noted.

 

[Jiro]

I have in the past and would do so today. People should mind their own business and not have any socio-political agendas shoved in their face.

better tell that to Mr. Cathy to keep it to himself.

 

[Jiro]

Can you please expand on the segregation and women's rights? I am lost here.

exactly. I'm lost too. moral conviction? seriously?

do you have any idea how many people were being persecuted or mistreated or forcibly followed/converted in the name of moral conviction?

 

[Jiro]

It's because I do read and study the Bible that I know how they and their descendants and communities all suffered the consequences of their actions. Yes, God loved them but He also chastised them for their sins and disobedience. God is also truthful, and didn't try to cover up any of their sins. He laid them out for all of us to see and learn from.

[quote}Hey you know, according to Exodus 21:7 I can sell my daughter into slavery. I'm a bit short on cash, what do you think would be a good asking price for her?
Wow, that's like the umpteenth time I've read that not-very-original comeback here at AD.


Supposedly?

No, I don't believe I said that I had any questions about God's view on marriage being for one man and one woman. He was very clear about it.

It is God's Book, for everyone.

that's the thing. "He was very clear about it"..... I disagree. I believe it's subjective and speculative. I do not believe you or me or them are capable of understanding God's will especially since we humans are very fallible.

 

[Jiro]

Wirelessly posted

I can't believe how people react to someone's beliefs. I mean he was only asked a question and people are calling him bigot etc.(not here). Everyone is entitled to express their opinion. I stand for my beliefs just as much as everyone else is entitled to.

right. they are entitled to express their opinions toward other people's opinion.

if a person doesn't want to hear any opinion to his own opinion.. simple - keep it to yourself. I have a very simple solution for Cathy if he was asked a question and did not want to get a heat for it - "no comment."

 

[Rio]

exactly. I'm lost too. moral conviction? seriously?

do you have any idea how many people were being persecuted or mistreated or forcibly followed/converted in the name of moral conviction?

Yes, many people out there being persecuted for their beliefs just like Mr.Cathy. Just bec he simply stated his beliefs on traditional marriage and everyone get's an uproar. Traditional marriage is being persecuted by the gay community. Christian and other religious organization with the same agenda are entitled to protect it.

 

[Foxrac]

I do not think Chik-Fil-A consumers are saying that homosexuality should be illegal.

To even try to outlaw it is silly. That is almost like saying "Let's all outlaw deafness", or "Let's outlaw short people".

The issue you are bringing up is one we have discussed in the past. That is the current legal definition of marriage and the DOMA. I know you view this as anti-gay rights, I know you feel very strongly that you are right.

I respect your opinion, but I do not share it. I have a different opinion. Having a different opinion, politically, does not equate to hatred. I would be completely on your side and fight any legislation that tried to outlaw homosexuality. I know it is "mostly" not a choice and something someone is born with. There is not much choice in sexual orientation - but often times, there is always a choice.

I will just leave it at that and say I will agree to disagree.

I think city mayors or city councils try to ban on CFA is just ridiculous, even it is worse than silly. There are local businesses in their city is possibly anti-gay but they chose to be neutral or not say at all.

The gay marriage is legal in some states but not recognized by federal due to DOMA, however DOMA is in court now. I don't know about final result and it is difficult to predict.

Sex orientation is most difficult to detect and you will not know or realize until late in childhood or early teen. If you have strong attract to woman so you are straight, if you have mixed or alternative attract to woman and man so you are bisexual and if you have strong attract to men so you are gay. Sex orientation is just like handedness, it is impossible to change it, unless you want to be pretending, however if you are between woman and man so you are bisexual. For me, I have attract to both of woman and man so I'm bisexual. There is other idea - if you give Playboy magazine to gay man so he will not interested to look, except for commercial, just got experience from my gay friend.

For gay marriage, let agree to disagree.

 

[Jiro]

Uh. Read again. I said the Christian community is more powerful than the gay community. Sorry if that upsets you, but its a FACT.

I think you're confused.... it's other way around. that's why Congress passed stronger discrimination law and hate crime to include homosexuals. and more and more states are legalizing gay marriage. and bunch more...

Recall Philadelphia? you know.... the city of brotherly love?

 

[Jiro]

I have in the past and would do so today. People should mind their own business and not have any socio-political agendas shoved in their face.

Forgive me if I don't believe you at all

 

[Foxrac]

Yes, many people out there being persecuted for their beliefs just like Mr.Cathy. Just bec he simply stated his beliefs on traditional marriage and everyone get's an uproar. Traditional marriage is being persecuted by the gay community. Christian and other religious organization with the same agenda are entitled to protect it.

We are already persecuted by anti-gay people too.

 

[Steinhauer]

Forgive me if I don't believe you at all

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