Petition against "dirty signs" book publishing

[Frisky Feline]

Oh boy. Indeed She is horrible at dirty signs. Her signs were completely wrong concepts and facial expression poorly. She has been clearly displayed of her true ignorance with the deaf community on her behalf.

 

[dereksbicycles]

I don't respect Kristin, but who cares if she makes $1 or $1 million from her books? I would not get a dime of it so does it really matter?

How many people will actually buy a book with vulgar language? I just hope people are not that stupid, but if they are, then that is sad.

 

[Berry]

just add in banned in some american libaries but in most of the free world you can get it...i be very worried if i was american, your values and ideas of freedom are questionable

You just now noticed that?

Most of us have one idea of freedom -- The freedom to stop the other guy from doing whatever it is he is doing over there.

Circumventing the constitution is a full time preoccupation for most -- Who will turn around and tell you we are the "free-est" country in the world.

I know a person who smokes pot who supports laws saying I have to wear a helmet -- And wants to ban me from putting sugar in my coffee because it is bad for MY health.

Hmmmmm.

 

[kokonut]

it is NOT ok, when she claims it is ASL, and thats abusing the 'knowledge' or rather lack of thereof according to the public (sic) awareness. ...also it is NOT ok for Hearing people to teach signs, Deaf people are the best teachers and we are the OWNERS of our language WHAT fucking right do hearies have to benefit financially, and too bad if its publicity, Deaf people can do that, NOT hearies. and ...she didnt ask for permission...thats really shows the level of disrespect

Hearing people are perfectly capable of teaching signs. I can see that George Veditz is rolling over in his grave. And hearing people have every right to benefit financially from using signs, too.

 

[kokonut]

I have my own opinion on this, I'll probably catch some flak.

Personally, I don't agree with what Kristin is trying to do. It gives the wrong impression for innocent people who want to learn something - at least teach them the dirty signs or close equivalents if there are variations, so they get their money back for buying the book. Kristin is cheating customers in that native signers already felt her book will have incorrect signs just like if you buy a book on USA presidents and you read the author only talks about Bush or Obama.

On the other hand: petitions, sharing, getting the word spread via social media while it looks like a good thing, it's also bad when it gets too big to control: it also has a stake of granting the author attention. Whether good or bad attention, it gives the book publicity. Because of all these protests and word getting spread, it makes people aware of her book and some may buy it on impulse just to see what's it all about. This earns her money due to free advertising, something she doesn't deserve.

It's like Kristin is the troll if she knows her book is wrong; but people who are protesting loudly are only getting the attention of other readers wondering what's going on. These readers who don't have a strong opinion or simple minded folks who end up buying the book end up getting "trolled".

It's in my opinion that it's better not to fight trolls by using fire with fire. They always appreciate the attention whether it is good or bad for them. If it were me: I'd let her eat her costs of making the book out of her own pocket, her publicator soliciting for her money, etc. Then I'd give negative reviews on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, other sites detailing for the potential buyers to read why the book sucks.

I think if that happened, she'd end up with negative profits and a bad rep to boot. Nobody wants to spend money on an author that gets horrible reviews.

I don't think she's trying to be deceptive about it but perhaps ignorance is playing a role. But no matter she has every right to publish a book and if she makes a profit so be it. If not, well, people will smile. At least the people know what to expect in her book compared to a couple of deaf people who helped advertised a published a book (full of blank pages) by a deaf person and most of the people who bought were deaf themselves who had no idea what exactly inside the book except they went by what the book cover said and took the Deaf author's word (and his scammers' word, too). Many were mad for the deceptive and false advertising. That was somewhat recent, too.

 

[kokonut]

I don't respect Kristin, but who cares if she makes $1 or $1 million from her books? I would not get a dime of it so does it really matter?

How many people will actually buy a book with vulgar language? I just hope people are not that stupid, but if they are, then that is sad.

People actually buy books on how to speak dirty in a foreign language (Spanish, French, etc...take your pick). There will always be a niche group of people who WILL buy those kinds of books. Always.

 

[kokonut]

hmmm didnt think of that, good posting...so its a game...

Actually, those Deaf people brought it upon themselves to protest. She just got free advertising/publicity about her book. No game. It just happened.

 

[Reba]

People actually buy books on how to speak dirty in a foreign language (Spanish, French, etc...take your pick). There will always be a niche group of people who WILL buy those kinds of books. Always.

It's called the "13-year-old-boys" niche.

 

[Foxrac]

just add in banned in some american libaries but in most of the free world you can get it...i be very worried if i was american, your values and ideas of freedom are questionable

Yup and Apple probably won't sell books with dirty/sexy languages.

 

[Frisky Feline]

Some speak and lipread. They also write and use the iPad notepad. In fact the entire operation is done by iPad....no cash register.




My view on ASL???




Was my last post not clear enough for you? Or are you trolling?

Umm, actually, the way your posts sound like to me that you have no respect for Deaf culture. Thought you would like to know some feedback about your attitude. Just saying.

 

[Tousi]

I have just one problem and that is the exploitation for monetary gain.

 

[TXgolfer]

Umm, actually, the way your posts sound like to me that you have no respect for Deaf culture. Thought you would like to know some feedback about your attitude. Just saying.

Thank you for the feedback, sorry you feel that way.

 

[Reba]

I have just one problem and that is the exploitation for monetary gain.

Let's hope that the monetary gain in this case will be minimal, if at all.

In other words, the book will be a flop.

 

[CrazyPaul]

I saw some videos of hers and I was not pissed off at all. I don't understand what some of you complain about. It's really nothing.

 

[Frisky Feline]

I don't think she's trying to be deceptive about it but perhaps ignorance is playing a role. But no matter she has every right to publish a book and if she makes a profit so be it. If not, well, people will smile. At least the people know what to expect in her book compared to a couple of deaf people who helped advertised a published a book (full of blank pages) by a deaf person and most of the people who bought were deaf themselves who had no idea what exactly inside the book except they went by what the book cover said and took the Deaf author's word (and his scammers' word, too). Many were mad for the deceptive and false advertising. That was somewhat recent, too.

" full of blank pages by a deaf person? " what title of book is that?

and you mentioned false advertising which was recent? what is the link

 

[KarissaMann05]

I saw some videos of hers and I was not pissed off at all. I don't understand what some of you complain about. It's really nothing.

Her videos did say, "Be Please.", "Bag of noses.", "Your small breasts, you hot?", "Buy where? Want-want-want clouds above horizon," and etc.

I seriously hope nobody will come to me and to sign mistranslated sentences to me.

 

[KarissaMann05]

" full of blank pages by a deaf person? " what title of book is that?

and you mentioned false advertising which was recent? what is the link

I think he referred to James Kittell who sold something about "What Audiologists Know About Deaf Culture (or Deaf Community?)". But, he only sold blank books with a few sentences, so it was really rip off.

 

[AlleyCat]

Sounds like he was basically trying to say Audiologists don't know much about Deaf Culture or the Deaf Community (which isn't altogether untrue). But that isn't an excuse for selling blank books. That's just as bad as this book of incorrect signs.

 

[Grummer]

Oh boy. Indeed She is horrible at dirty signs. Her signs were completely wrong concepts and facial expression poorly. She has been clearly displayed of her true ignorance with the deaf community on her behalf.

no no, she IGNORED Deaf community, not on her behalf, she flatly didnt get a shit. no behalfs at all.

I guess what you probably meant she ignored the fact she should have gone on behalf, but even THAT, I DON'T want!, I NEVER ever fucking want a hearing do anything with Deaf peoples' values and cutlures on 'behalf', Hearies have NO BUSINESS afterall they have cause way too much damage, and why should we trust them? I don't!!

Interpreters, -professional ones only, QUALIFIED that is, AND I also believe we should have a board of representative So Deaf people can decide to black list, ban or reprimand, or even deregister an interpreter is they misbehave, get rid of interpreters' asociation..."professional development' my ass!!

 

[Frisky Feline]

no no, she IGNORED Deaf community, not on her behalf, she flatly didnt get a shit. no behalfs at all.

I guess what you probably meant she ignored the fact she should have gone on behalf, but even THAT, I DON'T want!, I NEVER ever fucking want a hearing do anything with Deaf peoples' values and cutlures on 'behalf', Hearies have NO BUSINESS afterall they have cause way too much damage, and why should we trust them? I don't!!

Interpreters, -professional ones only, QUALIFIED that is, AND I also believe we should have a board of representative So Deaf people can decide to black list, ban or reprimand, or even deregister an interpreter is they misbehave, get rid of interpreters' asociation..."professional development' my ass!!

Lol maybe i wrote a toooo long sentence. Ok in a short sentence, she is idiot.