America's biggest teacher and principal cheating scandal unfolds in Atlanta

jillio said:
...Yeah, just throw 'em all in prison. Now there's a solution!:laugh2: Conservatives like you crack me up. That makes as much sense as taking funding away from schools that need it the most.
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What do you suggest be done with the cheating teachers and principals?

How is this a conservative vs. liberal issue? Is one group for cheating and the other is against cheating?
 
jillio said:
And it did just exactly the oppposite and made the downhill slide even worse. It accelerated it by making funding dependant upon the wrong criteria.
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What was the cause of the initial downhill slide before NCLB?
 
Reba said:
What do you suggest be done with the cheating teachers and principals?

How is this a conservative vs. liberal issue? Is one group for cheating and the other is against cheating?
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The conservative solution of throwing them all in prison certainly isn't going to solve anything. Especially since the conservatives are so worried about financial matters.

It doesn't have to be that way. But it certainly plays out that way around here.
 
It's pretty sad. I don't presume to know much about education, but it seems to me that we do not hear much from teachers the solutions to this national crisis. I am sure they are being ignored by the media. Give teachers the GO I say.
 
Beowulf said:
It's pretty sad. I don't presume to know much about education, but it seems to me that we do not hear much from teachers the solutions to this national crisis. I am sure they are being ignored by the media. Give teachers the GO I say.
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Exactly. And I know of not a single teacher in K-12 that has not said that NCLB is the worst thing to come down the pike in years.
 
jillio said:
The conservative solution of throwing them all in prison certainly isn't going to solve anything. Especially since the conservatives are so worried about financial matters.
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Really? That was some sort of official conservative solution? Declared by whom? I didn't get the memo.
 
jillio said:
Discipline them for their infractions
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What would that discipline entail?

and then take away the reason that they felt they had to cheat to protect their funding.
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That's not addressing the problem of what to do about teachers and principals who cheat and break the law.

What do parents tell their children about teachers who cheat?
 
Reba said:
Really? That was some sort of official conservative solution? Declared by whom? I didn't get the memo.
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Evidently, there isn't. It hasn't been solved.:roll:

Just because I said something regarding one conservative poster's solution doesn't make it generalizable.

Why do conservatives have such difficulty with apply the word "all" to everything?
 
Reba said:
What would that discipline entail?


That's not addressing the problem of what to do about teachers and principals who cheat and break the law.

What do parents tell their children about teachers who cheat?
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That would be the job of the school board to decide.

If they imepetius for cheating was not there, teachers would not be cheating. There would be no reason to fiddle with test scores.:roll:
 
jillio said:
Evidently, there isn't. It hasn't been solved.:roll:

Just because I said something regarding one conservative poster's solution doesn't make it generalizable.

Why do conservatives have such difficulty with apply the word "all" to everything?
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Well, you didn't say that darkdog cracked you up; you said "conservatives", plural.

BTW, you did it again. :lol:
 
jillio said:
That would be the job of the school board to decide.
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What do you suggest? What is your opinion?

If they imepetius for cheating was not there, teachers would not be cheating. There would be no reason to fiddle with test scores.:roll:
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But the fact is, the teachers did cheat. Certainly you aren't trying to justify what they did?
 
Reba said:
Well, you didn't say that darkdog cracked you up; you said "conservatives", plural.

BTW, you did it again. :lol:
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That is because conservatives do crack me up. :laugh2:But that has nothing to do with darkdog's solution.
 
Reba said:
What do you suggest? What is your opinion?


But the fact is, the teachers did cheat. Certainly you aren't trying to justify what they did?
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I said they should be disciplined, did I not? But simply taking action against these particular teachers is not going to solve the problem. It is being addressed from the wrong focus.
 
jillio said:
I said they should be disciplined, did I not? But simply taking action against these particular teachers is not going to solve the problem. It is being addressed from the wrong focus.
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What does "disciplined" mean? Fines? Firings? Suspensions? Jail time? Spanking? Re-education camps? Public pillories?
 
Reba said:
What does "disciplined" mean? Fines? Firings? Suspensions? Jail time? Spanking? Re-education camps? Public pillories?
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I mean disciplined as laid out by their particular school board in addressing these matters.
 
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