Hundreds pray for dog that killed a child

Banjo said:
These incidents wouldn't have happened in the first place if the owners didn't adopt them in the first place, or trained them properly.

How can you not blame the owners? They are the dog owners, they are responsible for their dogs. They are expected to take care of their dogs and at least, train them.
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Do you know the dog?
I do not, but I do not jump to conclusions. Dog deaths are still really minuscule in reality. It only happens once every other blue moon. It is a strong point out there is a trend with pits being reported.

Everytime there is some death or some kind of situation going on, the first thing that appears out is something along the lines of. Oh, blame the owners, not the dog, if it was trained properly and well watched, this would have never happened. This kind of denial needs to be stopped to be serious about how to be educated about dogs.
 
naisho said:
Do you know the dog?
I do not, but I do not jump to conclusions. Dog deaths are still really minuscule in reality. It only happens once every other blue moon. It is a strong point out there is a trend with pits being reported.

Everytime there is some death or some kind of situation going on, the first thing that appears out is something along the lines of. Oh, blame the owners, not the dog, if it was trained properly and well watched, this would have never happened. This kind of denial needs to be stopped to be serious about how to be educated about dogs.
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I blame the owner.. not the dog. Owners letting their dogs run around knowing they are aggressive. Owners are not making sure their dog are properly contained. Owners sic dogs on people. Owners leaving a baby alone with a dog. Oh.. I blame the owners 100% Dogs are animals and will act on instinct and it is the owners responsiblities to keep control of their dogs.
 
I've never been a fan of Pit Bulls, and there have been many attacks by them where I live, just recently a week ago....some unprovoked, people not being responsibile owners and the dog getting out of the fence or not on a leash.

No parent, in their right mind, should leave a baby unattended around Pit Bulls. Or, basically, any dog of that size.

And as sad as it is, my opinion is that the Dog should be put down. Even if the baby provoked the attack, the baby is not the blame. I blame the Parents!...They should be jailed for culpable negligence....even serve time, and fined to the max.
 
naisho said:
Do you know the dog?
I do not, but I do not jump to conclusions. Dog deaths are still really minuscule in reality. It only happens once every other blue moon. It is a strong point out there is a trend with pits being reported.

Everytime there is some death or some kind of situation going on, the first thing that appears out is something along the lines of. Oh, blame the owners, not the dog, if it was trained properly and well watched, this would have never happened. This kind of denial needs to be stopped to be serious about how to be educated about dogs.
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If a dog bites you.. are you going to sue the dog??

Who you blame? The dog? Or the owner?
 
Put the parents down, spare the dog.

OK, I exaggerate - a bit. Still, what were the idiot parents thinking, leaving a 6 month old alone on the floor with a large dog nearby? I agree with the person in the original article that the dog was likely trying to pick up the unattended child by the scruff of the neck to bring it to where the rest of the family was. That is what dogs do with their puppies: they gather them all into one place.

Stupid people. Along with licensing dogs, we should license the owners. Potential dog owners should take a 3 or 4 hour class in dog ownership before being allowed to have a dog. Maybe some of these tragedies could be prevented if people understood just a few basic things about expected canine behavior.
 
Babyblue said:
If a dog bites you.. are you going to sue the dog??

Who you blame? The dog? Or the owner?
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In our current era, just about the average person sues on the basis of dog attacks regardless of breeds. Each and every owner gets in bad shape as a result of it, and the dogs are put into question. Chihuahuas are no exception.

But I am only into the educational aspect. I honestly will question if pits are by instinct that puts them at an advantage (or disadvantage) compared to other dogs, like a german shepherd.

I take it similar as to a research on bonobos and chimpanzees. Science has shown that the two families share 98-99% genetic similarities by phylogenetic ancestry, bonobos are monophyleticly branched with chimps. Yet in forms of aggression studies, chimps by far take the lead in attacking other animals, as well as their own. Bonobos are completely gregarious and peaceful by nature, rarely seeking hostility.
 
naisho said:
In our current era, just about the average person sues on the basis of dog attacks regardless of breeds. Each and every owner gets in bad shape as a result of it, and the dogs are put into question. Chihuahuas are no exception.

But I am only into the educational aspect. I honestly will question if pits are by instinct that puts them at an advantage (or disadvantage) compared to other dogs, like a german shepherd.

I take it similar as to a research on bonobos and chimpanzees. Science has shown that the two families share 98-99% genetic similarities by phylogenetic ancestry, bonobos are monophyleticly branched with chimps. Yet in forms of aggression studies, chimps by far take the lead in attacking other animals, as well as their own. Bonobos are completely gregarious and peaceful by nature, rarely seeking hostility.
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I honestly do not think pits are more aggressive. They do more damage in results they are a powerful animal.

Chihuahuas actually bites more than any other dogs. I was reading that somewhere. People just do not report it as much or talk about it as much since the damage usually are not severe.
 
Right. From the description, it does not sound like this dog was being aggressive. It was doing the natural canine thing, which was to attempt to bring the youngest member of the family into the rest of the group. Unfortunately a dog's teeth on a baby's neck - well, there's no contest.
 
Babyblue said:
I honestly do not think pits are more aggressive. They do more damage in results they are a powerful animal.

Chihuahuas actually bites more than any other dogs. I was reading that somewhere. People just do not report it as much or talk about it as much since the damage usually are not severe.
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That is fine, I do not challenge your presumption on pits or chihuahuas. Behavioral and genetic analysis is a part of a sector responsible for good research, naturally I am drawn towards this focus when situations like these arise.

I see behavior patterns of humans by linguistic analysis, using their genetics as the variable. In times of stress, are they likely to be more anxious? aggressive? aloof? during certain conditions. Animal and human behavior is a large sector, the government pays to document all kinds of findings.
 
This case sounds like it's the parents' fault, seeing as how they had a baby in the house for six months with no prior issue. I think if it was aggression directed at the child, there'd have been an incident waaaaaaay sooner. Dogs don't usually sit there and bide their time waiting for the opportunity to be able to make an attack look like an accident.
 
So if a parent leaves a child in a hot car. Is the car or the sun to blame??

Parents are responsible for their children and dog. These parents did not take the responsibility of either one of them. Sad indeed and I am sure the parents thought. "My dog will never harm my baby"
 
Or lets say, parents left their children at the pool area and they drowned. Who is blamed? People who were there, pool itself, or parents?
 
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