Weinergate

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jillio said:
I was unaware that I was in the company of 2 so very perfect people that they never make a mistake.

**sarcasm ended**

To be more realistic, 2 such insecure people as those who feel it necessary to point out a mistake. Cannot elevate themselves through their own efforts, and so seek to point out the fallibility of others.
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You should know since you do it all the time.
 
*Nods head in agreement*

News flash!

Well, we kind of all know that by now....I, mean, what Weiner did, that is.
 
Weiner should have just flatly said, "what's going on between me and that woman is none of your business." (assuming it's done privately)
 
Yeah, but the photos of himself. That Weiner...wagon. The women that came forward with the texts. This is women we're talking about not a woman but women involved including a 17 year old girl. Kind of hard to say that and if he kept mum it'll only feed the media even more....and more distraction....til 2012.....and...and...well, you get the idea.
 
kokonut said:
Yeah, but the photos of himself. That Weiner...wagon. The women that came forward with the texts. This is women we're talking about not a woman but women involved including a 17 year old girl. Kind of hard to say that and if he kept mum it'll only feed the media even more....and more distraction....til 2012.....and...and...well, you get the idea.
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Implications that the communications with the teenage kid were in any similar or related to the other spats that've been happening are misleading and false. Have you ever spoken with an underage person online? I have. I've also sent photos of my Wiener over the internets. Does that mean I've sent Wienerpics to underage kids?
 
StSapphire said:
Implications that the communications with the teenage kid were in any similar or related to the other spats that've been happening are misleading and false. Have you ever spoken with an underage person online? I have. I've also sent photos of my Wiener over the internets. Does that mean I've sent Wienerpics to underage kids?
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After the discovery of his sexting escapades that went out of control, who are we to believe? Him? I feel bad for his wife.

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Wiener-Facebook-Transcript-Watermarked.pdf
 
kokonut said:
After the discovery of his sexting escapades that went out of control, who are we to believe? Him? I feel bad for his wife.

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Wiener-Facebook-Transcript-Watermarked.pdf
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First, we were talking about contact with a minor, and then you post an explicit conversation. This gives an implication that this is supposed to be the conversation that he had with the minor. It is not. Again, I've had similar conversations with my girlfriend online, and I've spoken with minors online. And I guilty of sexting with a minor?

Second, if you don't believe Weiner (fair enough, if he was the only source, I wouldn't trust him either), would you believe the person he was in contact with? What about her parents? (And do you really think the parents of a teenage girl would lie to protect an already unpopular politician?)

I'm not saying he's a fine, upstanding and moral citizen. But making false implications to try and make him look even worse than he actually is (and I realize at this point, it's rather difficult to do so) just makes you look silly. He's done plenty for you to goad him about, stick with the truth without trying to make things look even more worse than they already are.
 
StSapphire said:
First, we were talking about contact with a minor, and then you post an explicit conversation. This gives an implication that this is supposed to be the conversation that he had with the minor. It is not. Again, I've had similar conversations with my girlfriend online, and I've spoken with minors online. And I guilty of sexting with a minor?

Second, if you don't believe Weiner (fair enough, if he was the only source, I wouldn't trust him either), would you believe the person he was in contact with? What about her parents? (And do you really think the parents of a teenage girl would lie to protect an already unpopular politician?)

I'm not saying he's a fine, upstanding and moral citizen. But making false implications to try and make him look even worse than he actually is (and I realize at this point, it's rather difficult to do so) just makes you look silly. He's done plenty for you to goad him about, stick with the truth without trying to make things look even more worse than they already are.
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Which is why police investigated, and came out clean (text-wise, that is) although he claimed he wasn't sure if he ever sent text to an underage person. If his sexting went out of control and have contacted several women, well, it does bring up a lot of red flags. What are we suppose to believe at this point? That was my point.
 
kokonut said:
Which is why police investigated, and came out clean (text-wise, that is) although he claimed he wasn't sure if he ever sent text to an underage person. If his sexting went out of control and have contacted several women, well, it does bring up a lot of red flags. What are we suppose to believe at this point?
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That's a responsible reaction, considering he was talking to people online, where it's very easy to lie about your age.

Define "out of control" for sexting:
Is it any at all?
More than one person?
More than five?

Why does contacting several women raise "red flags"? If this is anything more than puritanical tut-tutting, I'm all ears. If you simply think a sexually active adult merits him a good solid drubbing, though, then I'd certainly question your values, which would concern me far more than some guy talking dirty to people on the internet.
 
StSapphire said:
That's a responsible reaction, considering he was talking to people online, where it's very easy to lie about your age.

Define "out of control" for sexting:
Is it any at all?
More than one person?
More than five?

Why does contacting several women raise "red flags"? If this is anything more than puritanical tut-tutting, I'm all ears. If you simply think a sexually active adult merits him a good solid drubbing, though, then I'd certainly question your values, which would concern me far more than some guy talking dirty to people on the internet.
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That's all it is, really. :lol:
 
StSapphire said:
First, we were talking about contact with a minor, and then you post an explicit conversation. This gives an implication that this is supposed to be the conversation that he had with the minor. It is not. Again, I've had similar conversations with my girlfriend online, and I've spoken with minors online. And I guilty of sexting with a minor?

Second, if you don't believe Weiner (fair enough, if he was the only source, I wouldn't trust him either), would you believe the person he was in contact with? What about her parents? (And do you really think the parents of a teenage girl would lie to protect an already unpopular politician?)

I'm not saying he's a fine, upstanding and moral citizen. But making false implications to try and make him look even worse than he actually is (and I realize at this point, it's rather difficult to do so) just makes you look silly. He's done plenty for you to goad him about, stick with the truth without trying to make things look even more worse than they already are.
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It's call spin. :dj:

Someone puts a couple of things together to get someone else to imagine a connection. Then they set the hook. Since you see the bait dangling, you get to swim away. :lol:
 
saywhatkid said:
It's call spin. :dj:

Someone puts a couple of things together to get someone else to imagine a connection. Then they set the hook. Since you see the bait dangling, you get to swim away. :lol:
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Funny, I just call it two bits short of an outright lie.
 
StSapphire said:
That's a responsible reaction, considering he was talking to people online, where it's very easy to lie about your age.

Define "out of control" for sexting:
Is it any at all?
More than one person?
More than five?

Why does contacting several women raise "red flags"? If this is anything more than puritanical tut-tutting, I'm all ears. If you simply think a sexually active adult merits him a good solid drubbing, though, then I'd certainly question your values, which would concern me far more than some guy talking dirty to people on the internet.
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If he's seeking "professional treatment" then it has nothing to do with "out of control" on what he has been doing for how so long? Sure, there's a range of what it could mean. He did say that he'd go and get help.

Red flags....he's married (barely a year). Did I not say earlier in this thread that I felt bad for his wife? It wasn't just the texting but the pictures as well (i.e. sexting) that put everything into question his activity and who he contacted.
 
kokonut said:
If he's seeking "professional treatment" then it has nothing to do with "out of control" on what he has been doing for how so long? Sure, there's a range of what it could mean. He did say that he'd go and get help.

Red flags....he's married (barely a year). Did I not say earlier in this thread that I felt bad for his wife? It wasn't just the texting but the pictures as well (i.e. sexting) that put everything into question his activity and who he contacted.
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He's seeking "professional treatment" because it's one allowed method of him saving face in the media, since the general media treatment has been equivalent to your responses, as well.

So, your main red flag is that he's in some manner unfaithful to his wife, and this makes him unsuitable to be a human being and unable to be trusted on anything whatsoever?
 
StSapphire said:
So, your main red flag is that he's in some manner unfaithful to his wife, and this makes him unsuitable to be a human being and unable to be trusted on anything whatsoever?
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*Whispering* Pssst...over here....The reason for the red flag is because...he...is...a...Liberal. Trust me on this. A Liberal that can cure cancer is still considered lower than a Conservative sexual deviant on the grading curve of some people.
 
saywhatkid said:
*Whispering* Pssst...over here....The reason for the red flag is because...he...is...a...Liberal. Trust me on this. A Liberal that can cure cancer is still considered lower than a Conservative sexual deviant on the grading curve of some people.
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I thought you didn't want to participate in this thread? :hmm:

Cure cancer? Let me know when that happens.

Oh, btw, if it helps you take a gander here, loads better than squawking over me ->

Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused
 
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