3D closed captioning?

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New 3D HDTVs will be growing. Support 3D closed captioning or 3D subtitle for 3D Blu-ray movies and some 3D TV programing which being ESPN 3D from satellite???

Optometrist said 3-D TVs are likely to aggravate eyestrain in many people who have minor eye problems.
Is 3D TV Hazardous to Your Health? - FoxNews.com
 
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Well, the hdtvs just came out about 5 years ago, now 3Dtv are out. I think technology is going too fast, plus more spending on updating tech.

My thread abt it.

http://alldeaf.com/m/GetThread.php?t=86209&f=33&bat=
 
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Banjo said:
Actually, HDTV televisions have been available since 1998.
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I haven't seen them around in 1998, probably only for commerical market. They appeared in mid 2000's.
 
sequoias said:
I haven't seen them around in 1998, probably only for commerical market. They appeared in mid 2000's.
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Well, the HDTV technology has been around since the 1970s. They even tried introducing them in North America during the 1980s, but nothing happened. Later on, they started experimenting with it on TV in the USA during the early 90s.

1998 is the year they became available to the consumers.
 
I do not think I would like 3D closed captioning , it sound like it would hard on your eyes . I heard some people get headaches from watching 3D movies.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I do not think I would like 3D closed captioning , it sound like it would hard on your eyes . I heard some people get headaches from watching 3D movies.
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I was going to Avatar 3D movie theatre and I was little dizzy outside after that. I'm not more going to any 3D movies again.
 
Well, many people wear glass for 3D. Don't use the wear glass ok. I saw CES 2011. A new TV free 3D glass. :O Sound cool. But, if you headache. Turn off the 3D TV to 2D will help you see better without headache. :)
 
There is no such as 3D cc. I saw and nothing different. Just normal CC along 3d movie.
 
My dad has 3D tv and I watched 3D movie with captions are regular not in 3D.

Saw Avatar in theatre 3D first time sat in front row got sick. Next time sat far back and feel fine.
 
Very interesting subject. I am an engineer and design set top boxes for closed captions. I'm currently working on one which supports HDMI. I noticed that the basic hardware I'm using supports 3D, and that got me wondering whether one could make the captions them selves 3D. I don't think there would be any practical use for it, but still it is a curious thing. Alas, while this hardware I'm using supports 3D programs, it does NOT allow the text to be presented in 3D. Perhaps in next generation of chipsets....
 
marcyp06 said:
My dad has 3D tv and I watched 3D movie with captions are regular not in 3D.

Saw Avatar in theatre 3D first time sat in front row got sick. Next time sat far back and feel fine.
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Were you able to watch it with CC fine? Or have trouble reading it in 3D?
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I do not think I would like 3D closed captioning , it sound like it would hard on your eyes . I heard some people get headaches from watching 3D movies.
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You're not the only one. It's pretty common to get headaches or eye pain during 3D movies. It all depends on the technology, most theaters use passive technology with those cheap and effective glasses. One eye receives vertical images, the other receives horizontal images. So we really see two different images which our brain interprets it as 3D. Problem comes from different things, if you sit in the wrong spot too far off a good viewing angle, too far or too close to the screen, trouble adapting your eyes to 2 slightly different images, etc...
Oh, btw 3D TVs use active technology, which is why they have those big bulky glasses that cost $100+ a pop. They work a little differently too, one eye will be dimmed, which lets the other eye take in more of the image, then it alternates back and forth between eyes. Now these have to do it at specifically the right time with what's displayed on the screen which is why thy have a wifi sync thing for the glasses with the TV. Basically a waste of money IMHO because for a family of 5 you're looking at something like $4000+ worth of cost just to get 3D.
My 2 cents, wait till technology gets better and cheaper.

CCman said:
Very interesting subject. I am an engineer and design set top boxes for closed captions. I'm currently working on one which supports HDMI. I noticed that the basic hardware I'm using supports 3D, and that got me wondering whether one could make the captions them selves 3D. I don't think there would be any practical use for it, but still it is a curious thing. Alas, while this hardware I'm using supports 3D programs, it does NOT allow the text to be presented in 3D. Perhaps in next generation of chipsets....
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I don't think there is any point for the text itself to be displayed as 3D. If it comes up as a flat 2D while watching 3D then that is fine with me. It would be harder to read if the text was 3D as well.
 
creature0077 said:
I don't think there is any point for the text itself to be displayed as 3D. If it comes up as a flat 2D while watching 3D then that is fine with me. It would be harder to read if the text was 3D as well.
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Well, you make a distinction that I hadn't thought of. When I thought "3D Captions", I was thinking about captions made from essentially flat letters, except they would appear at different depths, perhaps representing the position of the speaker within the depth of field of a scene.

Your idea of making the letters themselves 3D hadn't occurred to me, but it is an interesting thought. However, I think both would only be laboratory curiosities, not a consumer product or feature.
 
3D HDTV are still considerably more expensive than standard HD TVs. Many consumers are also bothered by the fact that you are required to wear 3D glasses and most need to be purchased separately. Another potential deterrent for many viewers is the lack of closed captioning. Currently, there is no standard way for TV providers to encode 3D captions. Some 3D programs have offered open-captions for certain events and simply broadcast it on a second channel. However, this is obviously not the ideal solution and there are engineers searching for ways to ensure 3D captioning of television in the future. Consumers may also think that they can just turn subtitles on while watching a 3D movie but this can also be problematic. If you use 2D subtitles on a 3D movie, the text will be displayed at a constant depth but if a 3D element in the background is blocked by that text it can become distracting and disorienting to the viewer.
 
Chevy57 said:
Some 3D programs have offered open-captions for certain events and simply broadcast it on a second channel.
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I just found out that my dad gets four 3D channels through Direct TV. Some of the program info shows CC and some does not. However even on the programs that say CC, no captions are showing up. These chanels are new to me so I will have to play with it some more to try and find a solution- I hope there is one!


Chevy57 said:
Consumers may also think that they can just turn subtitles on while watching a 3D movie but this can also be problematic. If you use 2D subtitles on a 3D movie, the text will be displayed at a constant depth but if a 3D element in the background is blocked by that text it can become distracting and disorienting to the viewer.
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This hasnt been a problem for me. The 3D effects in the movie dont really just pop out of the screen and hang out there. Ive watched at elast a dozen movies and have yet to have anything block the subtitles.
 
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creature0077 said:
You're not the only one. It's pretty common to get headaches or eye pain during 3D movies. It all depends on the technology, most theaters use passive technology with those cheap and effective glasses. One eye receives vertical images, the other receives horizontal images. So we really see two different images which our brain interprets it as 3D. Problem comes from different things, if you sit in the wrong spot too far off a good viewing angle, too far or too close to the screen, trouble adapting your eyes to 2 slightly different images, etc...
Oh, btw 3D TVs use active technology, which is why they have those big bulky glasses that cost $100+ a pop. They work a little differently too, one eye will be dimmed, which lets the other eye take in more of the image, then it alternates back and forth between eyes. Now these have to do it at specifically the right time with what's displayed on the screen which is why thy have a wifi sync thing for the glasses with the TV. Basically a waste of money IMHO because for a family of 5 you're looking at something like $4000+ worth of cost just to get 3D.
My 2 cents, wait till technology gets better and cheaper.



I don't think there is any point for the text itself to be displayed as 3D. If it comes up as a flat 2D while watching 3D then that is fine with me. It would be harder to read if the text was 3D as well.
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I do not want to pay $100 to be able to watch TV! Paying for cable is bad enough! We did not need all this crap when TV first came out! I will need a new TV in awhile and I sure will not spend $4,000 for one , if I could drive it too I might buy it!
 
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