Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding

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"The developer behind the controversial Islamic community center and mosque planned for Lower Manhattan has requested federal funding through the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation to support the project known as Park51."

Islamic community center developer seeks federal funding - CNN.com

And you can blame it all on Bush who started it:

"The initiative sought to strengthen faith-based and community organizations and expand their capacity to provide federally-funded social services, with the idea having been that these groups were well-situated to meet the needs of local individuals. As Texas governor, Bush had used the "Charitable Choice" provisions of the 1996 welfare reform (which allowed "faith-based" entities to compete for government contracts to deliver social services) to support the work of faith-based groups in Texas."

White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Be careful for what you ask for!

Next, they'll demand that God be replaced with Allah.
 
Bad idea.

I've never supported government funding support for any "faith-based" organizations.

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The very term "faith-based" seems to me a weaselly way to avoid saying "religious."
 
Reba said:
Bad idea.

I've never supported government funding support for any "faith-based" organizations.

Side note:

The very term "faith-based" seems to me a weaselly way to avoid saying "religious."
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This program should have been shut down a long time ago. Religious organizations don't need the financial support of the Federal Government amendment. I remember when Bush instated it and many religious leaders were very uneasy over it and didn't support it.

And yes, I agree: "faith-based" has a very Orwellian ring to it.
 
The government has no business funding any religious organizations.
 
Is it possible we all agree on something???
 
the need for separation of church and state is obvious here.
 
just read something on cnn i think it was. the islamic schools in england have a text book that preaches hate!! calling jews swine and stuff and proclaiming the harshest islamic laws like cutting off hands and feet for theft. this is what the muslims teach their kids
 
DDU said:
just read something on cnn i think it was. the islamic schools in england have a text book that preaches hate!! calling jews swine and stuff and proclaiming the harshest islamic laws like cutting off hands and feet for theft. this is what the muslims teach their kids
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You are talking about Sharia law. Very different than the concept of justice in the U.S. and the U.K. Might want to keep in mind that our justice system is not based on what the Bible says. We would then have the same kind of justice system as Sharia Law. Christians certainly bear no innocence when it comes to the preaching of hate and harsh justice.
 
shel90 said:
the need for separation of church and state is obvious here.
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Yup, I agree.

I'm favor in separation of church and state, government has no business with religious organization so they need get funding at their own.
 
jillio said:
You are talking about Sharia law. Very different than the concept of justice in the U.S. and the U.K. Might want to keep in mind that our justice system is not based on what the Bible says. We would then have the same kind of justice system as Sharia Law. Christians certainly bear no innocence when it comes to the preaching of hate and harsh justice.
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Yup, some people think that US Constitution is based on bible and that's not true.
 
Let's not get off track, please.

So far, this has been a nice, non-partisan, agreeable thread. :)
 
The paradox here is that you have to be a good christian to become a US president, in spite of the separation of state and church.

In european countries, where the state and church is tied togheter, it's of much less interest, if any at all, if the president/prime minister is a christian or not.

The secular US goverment is very religious compared to other religious states, but agree, church and state on the paper would never work in US.
 
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The paradox here is that you have to be a good christian to become a US president, in spite of the separation of state and church.
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Ah here we go...... Let the disagreeing resume.

I will counter with Reagan.
 
flip said:
The paradox here is that you have to be a good christian to become a US president, in spite of the separation of state and church.

In european countries, where the state and church is tied togheter, it's of much less interest, if any at all, if the president/prime minister is a christian or not.

The secular US goverment is very religious compared to other religious states, but agree, church and state on the paper would never work in US.
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In bold, yes, I agree with you.
 
I disagree with your disagreement :)
 
Of course, we can't discuss religion at AD. :)
 
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