Lies about CI's

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Mountain Man said:
No, you are not reading me right. I am not against cochlear implants; however, I do give preference to ASL simply because it is my opinion that cochlear implants introduce unnecessary medical risks.
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I'm not against CIs but ASL comes first in my book.
 
Mountain Man said:
I never said they're wrong, I said they're unnecessary for someone who already has a natural and intuitive access to a language.

I also take issue with your implication that deaf children without hearing aids or cochlear implants can not reach their full potential. That is the perspective of an audist.
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Whoo... someone's jumping the gun...

FJ was arguing about deaf people naturally being visual learners. I don't even know why. I think it's because she believes that if they ARE natural visual learners, that somehow implies that they can't do as well by listening via the CI or using the CI is wrong. So it was a comment meant FOR her.

Also, not the PERSON'S full potential. The DEVICES' full potential. Huge difference!!!

Whew... parents!!
 
Daredevel7 said:
Also, not the PERSON'S full potential. The DEVICES' full potential. Huge difference!!!
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In that case, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Daredevel7 said:
Whew... parents!!
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Because miscommunication and misunderstandings only happen when talking with parents, right?

(Can you tell I'm against generalizations? :P)
 
Mountain Man said:
I also take issue with your implication that deaf children without hearing aids or cochlear implants can not reach their full potential. That is the perspective of an audist.
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That's a good one to add to the mix: "Children without CIs and HAs cannot reach their full potential" and the corresponding "Children using CIs/HAs without ASL cannot reach their full potential."
 
Daredevel7 said:
Also, not the PERSON'S full potential. The DEVICES' full potential. Huge difference!!!

Whew... parents!!
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... just because some of us get a little cranky once in a while .... :laugh2:
 
Mountain Man said:
Because miscommunication and misunderstandings only happen when talking with parents, right?

(Can you tell I'm against generalizations? :P)
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I thought parents were the only source of trouble on AD?

;)
 
GrendelQ said:
That's a good one to add to the mix: "Children without CIs and HAs cannot reach their full potential" and the corresponding "Children using CIs/HAs without ASL cannot reach their full potential."
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Be careful now, that could tell a child that "without their CI or HAs, they are nothing" and we don't want that.
 
deafgal001 said:
Be careful now, that could tell a child that "without their CI or HAs, they are nothing" and we don't want that.
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(I'm not advocating either of these statements -- just adding to the 'Lies about CIs from the AD boards' mix)
 
Mountain Man said:
I'm not sure what you're objecting to. Are you disagreeing with the statement that deaf individuals have a natural and intuitive access to sign language? I really don't see how that could be disputed.

I feel sorry for those kids. It must be a terrible thing to be denied a natural language. The goal should not be to "get by" but to excel.
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Cause I speak from my own experience. My own parents didn't know signs yet I understood every word they said, especially my mother.

For your information, I was an honor student in high school. Made the honor society in both junior and high school. Also graduated cum laude with a bachelor's degree in computer science. How's that for a "low standard"?
 
HHIssues said:
Cause I speak from my own experience. My own parents didn't know signs yet I understood every word they said, especially my mother.

For your information, I was an honor student in high school. Made the honor society in both junior and high school. Also graduated cum laude with a bachelor's degree in computer science. How's that for a "low standard"?
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You must read alot.
 
deafgal001 said:
You must read alot.
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Actually I do, not that there's anything wrong with it. :)

Although I wasn't as much of a reader as a teenager as I am now. You know how it is, sometime your priorities are kind of a little different when you're a little young. :)
 
HHIssues said:
Cause I speak from my own experience. My own parents didn't know signs yet I understood every word they said, especially my mother.

For your information, I was an honor student in high school. Made the honor society in both junior and high school. Also graduated cum laude with a bachelor's degree in computer science. How's that for a "low standard"?
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All that doesn't even faze me - you sometimes can't remember/read things here.

It just tells me that you were good at listening and following directions.

Nice attempt at a brag.
 
posts from hell said:
All that doesn't even faze me - you sometimes can't remember/read things here.

It just tells me that you were good at listening and following directions.

Nice attempt at a brag.
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He's answering MountainMan's statement that the goal shouldn't just be to "get by" -- implying that this is all that HHIssues has done and isn't enough -- but "to excel" -- which he has done.
 
GrendelQ said:
He's answering MountainMan's statement that the goal shouldn't just be to "get by" -- implying that this is all that HHIssues has done and isn't enough -- but "to excel" -- which he has done.
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Alright - what is your definition of success? What is his? What is everyone's?

Mine's drastically different from everyone's. I basically don't care what credentials you have on paper.
 
posts from hell said:
Alright - what is your definition of success? What is his? What is everyone's?

Mine's drastically different from everyone's.
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Does it matter what the specifics of each of our definitions of success is -- as long as we each have the opportunity to achieve it and don't project our own views of success on someone else?
 
GrendelQ said:
Does it matter what the specifics of each of our definitions of success is -- as long as we each have the opportunity to achieve it and don't project our own views of success on someone else?
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Yea - it does matter somewhat.

The reason I say this -- You're all honors growing up, going to some prestigious university, wind up with a C level job, a nice home, family, etc...

Just because of parent's pressure growing up for you to 'succeed'.
Which is perfectly acceptable...

But ... You're not happy. Yet you're stuck in the situation.

Is that success? To me, nope. Same concept can be applied here.

Many people's perspectives are different and it does get projected upon one other often here. I'm guilty of this - I want to make sure people are happy in their lives. I don't give a darn on how they do it. If someone wants to spend all their time laboring away - fine by me, but it is not something I would want to do.
 
Success is purely subjective under a variety of conditions and goals. Each person's success is different from another.
 
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