Lawsuit against school system for promoting Dems

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Reba said:
Simply replying to this:

"I guess the Repubs want the Dems to stop campaigning all together."

I thought the defense was that the students' trip was NOT campaigning, so obviously I couldn't be referring to that.
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Campaigning goes on outside of every voters station. They are just forbidden from preventing people from entering the location, and have to be a number of steps away from the entrance. Repubs do it, Dems do it, even the birds in the sky do it.

My post was in reference to the one I quoted. And it pertained exactly to this topic.
 
jillio said:
Campaigning goes on outside of every voters station. They are just forbidden from preventing people from entering the location, and have to be a number of steps away from the entrance. Repubs do it, Dems do it, even the birds in the sky do it.

My post was in reference to the one I quoted. And it pertained exactly to this topic.
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So you admit the Democrats were actively campaigning when they handed out the sample ballots? It wasn't a simple mistake?

Aren't school civics outings supposed to be non-partisan?
 
Reba said:
So you admit the Democrats were actively campaigning when they handed out the sample ballots? It wasn't a simple mistake?

Aren't school civics outings supposed to be non-partisan?
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School civics are non-partisan. They were taken to a site where one can vote for any candidate on the ticket. It wasn't the teachers or the volunteers on the trip that were passing out the sample ballots, now was it? If you think that we are supposed to prevent people from campaining on the chance that they may encounter a student on a field trip it is a bit far fetched, don't you think. There were obviously others there besides students.

Why is it you believe that these students are so incapable of thinking for themselves?
 
jillio said:
School civics are non-partisan. They were taken to a site where one can vote for any candidate on the ticket. It wasn't the teachers or the volunteers on the trip that were passing out the sample ballots, now was it? If you think that we are supposed to prevent people from campaining on the chance that they may encounter a student on a field trip it is a bit far fetched, don't you think. There were obviously others there besides students.
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Others on the buses?

Why is it you believe that these students are so incapable of thinking for themselves?
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I never said that. My complaint is against the adults who were responsible for the students. Just because students can think for themselves doesn't mean that the adults responsible for them can avoid their duties.
 
Reba said:
Others on the buses?


I never said that. My complaint is against the adults who were responsible for the students. Just because students can think for themselves doesn't mean that the adults responsible for them can avoid their duties.
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Well, of course. Those teachers are fully at fault for not protecting those students from those vicious people passing out sample ballots at the voting station. What in the world were they thinking? Our kids should be protected from information that forces them to think and make decisions! We can't have them using fluid intelligence, now can we?
 
Reba said:
Others on the buses?


I never said that. My complaint is against the adults who were responsible for the students. Just because students can think for themselves doesn't mean that the adults responsible for them can avoid their duties.
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BTW: the ballots weren't passed out on the buses.:roll: The lawsuit is over the sample ballots. Anything else brought into the discussion is irrelevant.
 
jillio said:
Well, of course. Those teachers are fully at fault for not protecting those students from those vicious people passing out sample ballots at the voting station. What in the world were they thinking? Our kids should be protected from information that forces them to think and make decisions! We can't have them using fluid intelligence, now can we?
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Were they given equal information from all parties at the polling place with which to make informed decisions?

I never said they were vicious or that they were forced to do anything.

They were NOT given information about all candidates, which would have made them more informed.
 
jillio said:
BTW: the ballots weren't passed out on the buses.:roll: The lawsuit is over the sample ballots. Anything else brought into the discussion is irrelevant.
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I said sample ballots in my post. :confused: What's your problem?
 
Reba said:
I said sample ballots in my post. :confused: What's your problem?
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Your implication of "others" on the bus. You asked the question, I simply responded. Perhaps you can recheck your post and clarify what you meant by "others".
 
Reba said:
Were they given equal information from all parties at the polling place with which to make informed decisions?

I never said they were vicious or that they were forced to do anything.

They were NOT given information about all candidates, which would have made them more informed.
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They were not given Repub info because the Repubs weren't there to hand it out. Maybe they need to get more volunteers to the polling places.:giggle:

However, you are attempting to make the school responsible for something they are not responsible for. You can twist it any way you want to. If the Republican cadidates didn't have their volunteers out campaigning, then it is their fault that the kids weren't given info on their cadidates.
 
jillio said:
Your implication of "others" on the bus. You asked the question, I simply responded. Perhaps you can recheck your post and clarify what you meant by "others".
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This is the post to which I responded:

Originally Posted by jillio View Post
School civics are non-partisan. They were taken to a site where one can vote for any candidate on the ticket. It wasn't the teachers or the volunteers on the trip that were passing out the sample ballots, now was it? If you think that we are supposed to prevent people from campaining on the chance that they may encounter a student on a field trip it is a bit far fetched, don't you think. There were obviously others there besides students.
 
It's a shame the students needed such hands-on experience to know how it works. I saw films in my high school sociology classes explaining the entire process. Oh well.
 
Reba said:
This is the post to which I responded:

Originally Posted by jillio View Post
School civics are non-partisan. They were taken to a site where one can vote for any candidate on the ticket. It wasn't the teachers or the volunteers on the trip that were passing out the sample ballots, now was it? If you think that we are supposed to prevent people from campaining on the chance that they may encounter a student on a field trip it is a bit far fetched, don't you think. There were obviously others there besides students.
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Go back to your post that said "Others on the bus?" That is what I was responding to.
 
Beowulf said:
It's a shame the students needed such hands-on experience to know how it works. I saw films in my high school sociology classes explaining the entire process. Oh well.
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Agreed. However, at least the school system was attempting to encourage political activity.
 
deafskeptic said:
Mm... I've looked back and reread the article. I think I missed the key word sample Democratic ballots. I can't help but wonder if wonder if they'd be facing this suit if they had gotten Republican ballots?

I stand corrected. :P
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Me too..I stand corrected. A sample ballot.
 
deafskeptic said:
Well, since they weren't actually voting for the candidates, I think it's moot.

I'm sure the students are capable of making up their minds who to vote for in the election. I still think they shouldn't have been taken out of school unless they were taking a civics course.
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We have taken students out of school to do mock voting at an actual polling place. Nothing beats than using the real thing to teach.
 
Beowulf said:
It's a shame the students needed such hands-on experience to know how it works. I saw films in my high school sociology classes explaining the entire process. Oh well.
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It is not a shame...it just makes learning more fun that way. Not all schools teach voting by taking the kids out to an actual polling place. Maybe this school thought it would be an enriching experience.
 
aren't the students even too young to vote thus kinda petty overall? Yeah, church vans... something's up with that. Why not use public bus which is built for safety?
 
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