Is this good or bad to you? (pet related)

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I saw a dog that lives on the second floor of an apartment of someone's house. The second floor balcony is like really small, 10ft by 3 ft or so. The dog is huge and looks like an older golden retriever maybe ~8+ years old. Do you think this is a cruel thing to do?
 
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No. It depends on the breed.

I know quite a few reputable breeders who sell laidback breeds like Greyhound German Shepherds and Rottweilers to small suites. As long they are not overweight, underfed, and are exercised daily-- i don't see a problem.

However if the dog is a hyper-active breed like an English Pointer, a Border Collie or a a Blue Heeler, then i would say that the person is probably not well equip to meet and cater to their minimal needs.
 
do you see the dog outdoors? i mean on walks with its owner. that balcony sounds a lot better than a crate. a large number of people will crate their dogs indoors. it is supposed to be vet approved but i think it s not that cool. on a balcony the dog gets fresh air and sees more than the inside of a crate. if the dogs coat is nice looking, not dull or matted then he is ok. just be glad you don't have your balcony under his if he has to tinkle
 
naisho said:
I saw a dog that lives on the second floor of an apartment of someone's house. The second floor balcony is like really small, 10ft by 3 ft or so. The dog is huge and looks like an older golden retriever maybe ~8+ years old. Do you think this is a cruel thing to do?
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How often the owner leave the dog outside?

How often do you see the owner takes the dog out for a walk?

How long it has been like that?

Observe the dog's behavior, how do the dog approach its master/owner?

is the dog look healthy?
 
Well, I've only seen it for a few days in a row lately when I pay attention on my route back home. It is always outside on a 2nd floor balcony and woofs at me. I can't see all the details too well, I just realized from seeing it after awhile it's been outside everytime I go home.
 
naisho said:
Well, I've only seen it for a few days in a row lately when I pay attention on my route back home. It is always outside on a 2nd floor balcony and woofs at me. I can't see all the details too well, I just realized from seeing it after awhile it's been outside everytime I go home.
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ok due to insufficient details, give it some more time, and if you feel the owner is not taking care of the dog properly, feel free to talk to the owner to find out more details.

if you feel its necessary to take the further action, contact with the local animal control, they can double-check the dog to see if it have any need, or need attention immediatley.
 
My neighbor, he has a yellow lab, he leave his yellow lab in 10 by 10 kennel everyday. The dog go through cold days, hot days, rainy days, snowy days - I offered him that I can baby sit his dogs once in a while, and he feel like its not necessary.

As long the dog have something to keep warm, got some bowl of water/food and plus a igloo.

I think its a better condition instead of see the dog at the dogs shelter.

it gives me some heartache to see his yellow lab stay in the kennel 10x10 everyday (because his house is right front of my house) :/
 
:( me too! I have never owned the kennel in my life. If i ever adopt a dog. It's not me that to put dog in the kennel. But again, i have never experience of owning disbehavior dog yet. All my life i grew up with dogs were sweet dogs.
 
My feelings are that big dogs such as this are not well-suited for such small quarters. To me, it's abuse. I also know of someone that has a huge Black Lab, along with 2 other dogs, in a 12x76 mobile home. The dogs can barely get around in there and the Lab, most of the time just sits down.

I also know of some pet owners with big dogs, living in an apartment, but they do take their dog on long walks and to the park on w/ends. But for those owners who just take the dog outside to do their business, then bring them back in....that's abuse. I believe big dogs need a place to run around.
 
I don't know .... If the apartment is big enough for the dog to walk around, eat, play with toys, etc., I'm good with that. BUT, it does need to get outside and exercise. So, if you're thinking the dog is left outside too much for the owner's convenience and not for exercise, and not getting alternative exercise at that, you could always place an anonymous call to your local shelter/humane society to have them come evaluate the situation. I'm very much an animal (especially dog and cat) lover for those who don't know, so I understand your feelings -- go with your gut -- if you feel this situation is *even* on the verge of mistreatment, make a call.
 
naisho said:
I saw a dog that lives on the second floor of an apartment of someone's house. The second floor balcony is like really small, 10ft by 3 ft or so. The dog is huge and looks like an older golden retriever maybe ~8+ years old. Do you think this is a cruel thing to do?
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:shock: are you sure that's not mine? well mine is more of 10 x 5 feet. :D

not a cruel thing unless you see s/he's chained to something, looks so distressed, has no water or food bowl or never goes inside house when rains or heat waves or never goes outside for a walk .... and how harshly s/he woofs at you? what would be your instinct?

what if that person is/has freckles? :hmm: aside that joke, document more facts and let animal control (if your state ever cares) take care of it. it could be an elder owner that just had a surgery...or the dog who just had a hip surgery or something. so best to wait until you know more and keep eyeful on that dog.
 
More observations.. it's a younger black guy who lives there (no stereotype intended) and there's a huge metal cage that can fit a dog right next to the balcony door.

No freckles though, so you're cleared.

My basic feeling was that this dog can barely move around.. I guess I shouldn't be one to judge but it looked like a pity to see it just lounging around on the balcony every time I passed. I would personally not own a pet knowing if it had to live outside like this.
 
naisho said:
More observations.. it's a younger black guy who lives there (no stereotype intended) and there's a huge metal cage that can fit a dog right next to the balcony door.

No freckles though, so you're cleared.

My basic feeling was that this dog can barely move around.. I guess I shouldn't be one to judge but it looked like a pity to see it just lounging around on the balcony every time I passed. I would personally not own a pet knowing if it had to live outside like this.
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well, the dog would be thankful for you if you need to judge. I wouldn't too, lives there and hangs out there is totally different, I am sure you already know that.

is the balcony door by crate at all opened ajar? what about the screen? providing proper-size crate can be a good sign...or a red flag.

and I asked, by visually, not just by hearing, have this dog barred his/her (no stereotype intended by saying his first) teeth too? all the time? or at some certain people? I would go up and start with I love dogs! can't help but saw yours, can I walk your dog/bring my dog over to play sometimes? - something along those lines.
 
if you are concerned enough you can call animal protection. they can at least check that the dog is licensed. almost any town or city will require a dog to be licensed. it's good you notice, might mean a difference to the dog some day
 
Very true. It one of the reasons why I am hesitant to take immediate action because I do not know what direction it will go in..
I am getting confident to say it is left on the balcony all day. I think I miscalculated the porch earlier, it's more of like 3x25 or 3x20.

I took some bad pictures with phone yesterday. Not blaming the owner for anything at all - and I don't really do things like that, but I am using this mainly as an example to see your opinion if this is OK enough for a dog to get by in their life.

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That's a huge space with shelter by the porch roof. If the dog has food and water, and goes for walks, gets played with and has time inside when the owner comes home, it should be a happy dog.
 
I'd approve the kind of the condition for the dog to stay on porch. Its better than 3 feet by 3 feet. The dog seem very healthy not so aggressive.
 
take a couple days off and spy on the couple and see they take it for a walk or something. City dogs are happy when they go for a walk every day.

My dog have plenty of fenced backyard room to run but he prefer staying indoor with us and going for a walk.
 
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