Fed sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law

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hmmmmm ....... so what happened to .... this will only allow State Police to harass law abiding citizens?

It will open the door to racism?

:roll:

I see Obama is trying to hit this from a different angle eh?

Even this new twist won't fly either.
 
Steinhauer said:
hmmmmm ....... so what happened to .... this will only allow State Police to harass law abiding citizens?

It will open the door to racism?

:roll:

I see Obama is trying to hit this from a different angle eh?

Even this new twist won't fly either.
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Perhaps, there is door so could you open it?
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I have wait and see about what's up with new law into effect on July 29.
 
Steinhauer said:
hmmmmm ....... so what happened to .... this will only allow State Police to harass law abiding citizens?

It will open the door to racism?

:roll:

I see Obama is trying to hit this from a different angle eh?

Even this new twist won't fly either.
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where? I don't see it in DOJ lawsuit's legal briefing.

Feds sue to overturn Arizona immigration law - CNN.com
The government's brief said the U.S. Constitution and federal law "do not permit the development of a patchwork of state and local immigration policies throughout the country."

"Although a state may adopt regulations that have an indirect or incidental effect on aliens, a state may not establish its own immigration policy or enforce state laws in a manner that interferes with federal immigration law," the brief said. "The State of Arizona has crossed this constitutional line."

The brief contends that the Arizona law "disrupts federal enforcement priorities and resources that focus on aliens who pose a threat to national security or public safety. ... If allowed to go into effect, [its] mandatory enforcement scheme will conflict with and undermine the federal government's careful balance of immigration enforcement priorities and objectives."

The Justice Department highlighted statements in support of the lawsuit from the sheriff of Arizona's Santa Cruz County and several Department of Homeland Security officials, among others.
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Foxrac said:
Perhaps, there is door so could you open it?
cabinet-door.jpg


I have wait and see about what's up with new law into effect on July 29.
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The door was already opened, Obama entered the room and said "Aw crap! There's nothing in here!"

So, he pulled something else out of thin air and made up another story.

And yes .... everyone saw it.
 
Steinhauer said:
The door was already opened, Obama entered the room and said "Aw crap! There's nothing in here!"

So, he pulled something else out of thin air and made up another story.

And yes .... everyone saw it.
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Jiro said:
they already interfered before. now with this later - their interference will increase... which means the federal agents will be inundated with petty cases.. which means their focus on high-priority cases will be neglected.

High-Priority Illegals or Petty Illegals. which one is more important? Can't pick both.
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Until a case is investigated, one doesn't always know if the individuals are "petty" or serious cases. Also, the aliens will only be found out by local police when they've already stopped the individuals for another offense.

How often do local police find serious criminals and people with warrants while conducting "routine" traffic stops? How often do "petty" criminals turn out to have lengthy rap sheets?

Often enough to make those stops and arrests worthwhile.

That's not "interference."
 
Reba said:
Until a case is investigated, one doesn't always know if the individuals are "petty" or serious cases. Also, the aliens will only be found out by local police when they've already stopped the individuals for another offense.
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Everybody who enters the detention center gets fingerprinted, processed, and interviewed. That takes quite a while to do that for each illegal alien. Imagine if the detention center is filled with petty cases. That will leads to further delay in federal duty, wasted budget & manpower, and further abdications. Ya'all will still complain that Feds are not doing the job. They should be focusing on investigating on more important cases like criminal enterprises and employers.

Reba said:
How often do local police find serious criminals and people with warrants while conducting "routine" traffic stops? How often do "petty" criminals turn out to have lengthy rap sheets?

Often enough to make those stops and arrests worthwhile.
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Actually - the Feds have been doing pretty dang good job especially prosecuting/catching the serious criminals. I'll type up the statistic and quick info on that later tonight. It's in my magazine. It'll change your tune.

Reba said:
That's not "interference."
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Inundating federal agents with petty cases? yes that's a serious interference. The federal law allows the state to create the "indirect" laws but if the feds say it's interfering... then the state must cease it.
 
Jiro said:
Everybody who enters the detention center gets fingerprinted, processed, and interviewed. That takes quite a while to do that for each illegal alien. Imagine if the detention center is filled with petty cases. That will leads to further delay in federal duty, wasted budget & manpower, and further abdications. Ya'all will still complain that Feds are not doing the job. They should be focusing on investigating on more important cases like criminal enterprises and employers.


Actually - the Feds have been doing pretty dang good job especially prosecuting/catching the serious criminals. I'll type up the statistic and quick info on that later tonight. It's in my magazine. It'll change your tune.


Inundating federal agents with petty cases? yes that's a serious interference. The federal law allows the state to create the "indirect" laws but if the feds say it's interfering... then the state must cease it.
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My tune? You seem a lot more worked up about this than I am. :giggle:

BTW, Arizona hasn't even implemented the program so they can't be sued for doing something that hasn't yet happened.
 
Reba said:
My tune? You seem a lot more worked up about this than I am. :giggle:
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Reba said:
BTW, Arizona hasn't even implemented the program so they can't be sued for doing something that hasn't yet happened.
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then what are Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County notorious for past several years?
 
Jiro said:
:giggle:

then what are Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Maricopa County notorious for past several years?
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The law which the Feds are making suit against doesn't take effect until the end of July. It has nothing to do with Sheriff Joe.

Washington (CNN) - The Justice Department Tuesday filed a lawsuit challenging a tough new Arizona immigration law.

The law, which is scheduled to take effect at the end of July, requires immigrants to carry their alien registration documents at all times and allows police to question the residency status of people in the course of enforcing another law. It also targets businesses that hire illegal immigrant laborers or knowingly transports them....
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CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Justice Department challenges Arizona immigration law - Blogs from CNN.com
 
Jiro said:
Sheriff Joe is the piledriver of this Arizona's new immigration law.
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The focus of this thread is the suit. The focus of the suit is the Arizona law that takes effect at the end of July.
 
Reba said:
The focus of this thread is the suit. The focus of the suit is the Arizona law that takes effect at the end of July.
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the law that Sheriff Joe pushed for and will proudly enforce it on July 29th. And this will cause a major headache for Feds and a colossal waste of taxpayer's money.
 
Jiro said:
the law that Sheriff Joe pushed for and will proudly enforce it on July 29th. And this will cause a major headache for Feds and a colossal waste of taxpayer's money.
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Many people supported the passing of the law, and it's been done. Now the debate is about the Federal lawsuit against Arizona.
 
I feel certain there will be an injunction against the Arizona immigration law before it goes into effect, and I am equally sure the case will appear before the Supreme Court. Ah well.
 
Interfere :laugh2: That is the best they could come up with.


Detention center overcrowding???? Fence off a field and give them a blanket.
 
Of COURSE the Justice Department will "interfere" if they deem a governor passes an unconstitutional law. That is what this is all about.
 
We will see what the Supreme Court says once it gets there........Either way the lower court rulings will not matter.
 
Beowulf said:
Of COURSE the Justice Department will "interfere" if they deem a governor passes an unconstitutional law. That is what this is all about.
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What about Mayors????

obama chooses to sue after a State that has passed a law that closely mirrors Federal law saying it interferes.......yet he doesn't sue cities that have passed sanctuary laws that directly conflict/interfere with Federal law........kinda strange.

Politics,that is what this is all about.
 
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