Mexican Drug Cartel house raid

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Prohibition brought on Al Capone, they got rich off from illegal booze and they cost more to buy than when it was legal. Supply and demand. When the prohibition was lifted, there were no more Al Capones. Save alone illegal drugs.

Legalize drugs and these cartels will dry up of money in 10 years or so, maybe longer, if they spend wisely.

People are always attracted to anything illegal, especially kids. It gives them the sense of rebellion, the "bad boy" feeling. Legalize it all and that attractiveness will lose it's appeal.

Yiz
 
It's always hilarious to see how Mexicans ghetto-ize everything from guns to bathrooms.

Last night at shopping, I saw a mexican driving a white truck and his truck was splattered with photos of his kids and his truck. How tacky.
 
souggy said:
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Nope. I am referring to the ones that live in countries where drugs are legal to possess. Those ones are the ones near the top of the ladder.

You can't touch them because... Well, what they are doing is legal within their own countries-- they just hire foreign muscles to traffick.

The Mexican cartels? Small fries.
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Living in AZ, it was common knowledge.
 
souggy said:
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Nope. I am referring to the ones that live in countries where drugs are legal to possess. Those ones are the ones near the top of the ladder.

You can't touch them because... Well, what they are doing is legal within their own countries-- they just hire foreign muscles to traffick.

The Mexican cartels? Small fries.
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We invaded Panama. That was a country outside our jurisdiction.

Ever hear of SOG's?
 
yizuman said:
Prohibition brought on Al Capone, they got rich off from illegal booze and they cost more to buy than when it was legal. Supply and demand. When the prohibition was lifted, there were no more Al Capones. Save alone illegal drugs.

Legalize drugs and these cartels will dry up of money in 10 years or so, maybe longer, if they spend wisely.

People are always attracted to anything illegal, especially kids. It gives them the sense of rebellion, the "bad boy" feeling. Legalize it all and that attractiveness will lose it's appeal.

Yiz
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Nah, send in some SOG's (no flag patches) and burn baby burn the supply.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol#Special_Operations_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BORTAC
 
Perry implements 'Phase One' of border violence plan : News : KGBT 4

AUSTIN, TEXAS (AP) -- Texas Gov. Rick Perry has activated a secret spillover violence contingency plan, citing an increasing threat of violence crossing the Texas border from Mexico.

Perry's office said details of the plan, activated Tuesday, wouldn't be released because of security concerns.

However, Perry said that, "With the growing threat of violence in Mexico spilling over the border, we have taken important measures to increase the law enforcement presence along the Texas border and have placed additional resources on standby to combat any potential situation."

The plan includes increased surveillance of border activity and increased ground, air and maritime patrols.

Additional resources ready for rapid deployment also have been placed on standby.

Those resources include Texas Department of Public Safety tactical teams and Trooper Strike Teams, as well as Texas Ranger Recon Teams prepared to deploy based on the threat.

(Copyright ©2010 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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Steinhauer said:
We invaded Panama. That was a country outside our jurisdiction.

Ever hear of SOG's?
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Yeah... so much for you being a libertarian.

We don't have the rights to invade another country. The problems that boil over our borders? They are caused by our own citizens. They are the ones that enabled it.
 
souggy said:
Yeah... so much for you being a libertarian.

We don't have the rights to invade another country. The problems that boil over our borders? They are caused by our own citizens. They are the ones that enabled it.
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Prove it.

When a country smuggles drugs in, we have every right to invade them.

And we did .... more than once. Won every time.
 
Oh yeah... your opium war in Afghanistan is reaaaaaaaaally working out.

And the drug war in Colombia? How is that working out for you as well?
 
souggy said:
Oh yeah... your opium war in Afghanistan is reaaaaaaaaally working out.

And the drug war in Colombia? How is that working out for you as well?
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Yep, even after promising to withdraw, Obama sent more troops.
 
Steinhauer said:
Prove it.

When a country smuggles drugs in, we have every right to invade them.

And we did .... more than once. Won every time.
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No. Only if it's a direct military action.

Pre-emptive strikes are a violation of libertarian ideologies.
 
Steinhauer said:
Nah, send in some SOG's (no flag patches) and burn baby burn the supply.

United States Border Patrol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BORTAC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Killing them will only bring out new ones. Kill one, ten more replaces the one. Kill 10 and 50 more will replace them. It's an never ending cycle of violence if we choose elect the methods of violence.

Legalize drugs and the glamorization of violence will go away. Like I said before, anything that is illegal is a gold mine for those that will meet the supply and demand. Anyone that gets in the way of that only meets death because of their greed.

They already tried prohibition and the result of that went badly. So they repealed it and the violence behind prohibition dropped considerably.

They need to do the same with drugs. But no, it's a major profit venture to law enforcement officials, seizing the money in drug raids consists of millions to fund their department is too appealing to for them to even consider repealing it. This includes property as well, such as cars, homes, boats, planes, etc. They auction those off daily to fund their department so they can purchase upgrades.

Drug dealers do the same, whenever law enforcement upgrades their department to fight against drug dealers, the dealers then meets their upgrades with their own. In fact, with the sales of drugs, cartels surpasses far more than law enforcement that they are outnumbered by 10 to 1. Cops are getting killed daily around the world over drugs, leaving behind love ones to mourn for them while the cartels laugh as they count their cash sitting on their tables.

Law enforcements is always begging for more funds from Congress because they cannot keep up with the constant upgrades that Cartels come up with and they always find new ways to circumvent the security systems that they set up.

For 40 years, we have spent Trillions of dollars fighting Cartels and they are nowhere near their goal to stamp out the flow of drugs getting into various countries. We're fighting a losing battle. We're wasting money and lives daily.

I get the impression that there are those that enjoy too much killing when it comes to fighting drug dealers and yet some in charge don't care if one our own comes home in a body bag as long as they are helping those in charge to fuel their thirst for blood, even if it means that children get caught in the middle of the crossfire.

Yiz
 
Exactly.

People needs to stop thinking of in term of nations, borders and politics when it come to economic affairs like drugs, human trafficking and so on.
 
souggy said:
No. Only if it's a direct military action.

Pre-emptive strikes are a violation of libertarian ideologies.
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where were these so called "pre-emptive" strikes you are talking about?

You do know what a pre-emptive strike is don't you?
 
yizuman said:
Killing them will only bring out new ones. Kill one, ten more replaces the one. Kill 10 and 50 more will replace them. It's an never ending cycle of violence if we choose elect the methods of violence.

Legalize drugs and the glamorization of violence will go away. Like I said before, anything that is illegal is a gold mine for those that will meet the supply and demand. Anyone that gets in the way of that only meets death because of their greed.

They already tried prohibition and the result of that went badly. So they repealed it and the violence behind prohibition dropped considerably.

They need to do the same with drugs. But no, it's a major profit venture to law enforcement officials, seizing the money in drug raids consists of millions to fund their department is too appealing to for them to even consider repealing it. This includes property as well, such as cars, homes, boats, planes, etc. They auction those off daily to fund their department so they can purchase upgrades.

Drug dealers do the same, whenever law enforcement upgrades their department to fight against drug dealers, the dealers then meets their upgrades with their own. In fact, with the sales of drugs, cartels surpasses far more than law enforcement that they are outnumbered by 10 to 1. Cops are getting killed daily around the world over drugs, leaving behind love ones to mourn for them while the cartels laugh as they count their cash sitting on their tables.

Law enforcements is always begging for more funds from Congress because they cannot keep up with the constant upgrades that Cartels come up with and they always find new ways to circumvent the security systems that they set up.

For 40 years, we have spent Trillions of dollars fighting Cartels and they are nowhere near their goal to stamp out the flow of drugs getting into various countries. We're fighting a losing battle. We're wasting money and lives daily.

I get the impression that there are those that enjoy too much killing when it comes to fighting drug dealers and yet some in charge don't care if one our own comes home in a body bag as long as they are helping those in charge to fuel their thirst for blood, even if it means that children get caught in the middle of the crossfire.

Yiz
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How can they be replaced if you just wipe them all out? :hmm:
 
Steinhauer said:
where were these so called "pre-emptive" strikes you are talking about?

You do know what a pre-emptive strike is don't you?
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It's exactly what you are proposing.

Prove it.

When a country smuggles drugs in, we have every right to invade them.

And we did .... more than once. Won every time.
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Wars like Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf War was justified... because THEY attacked another country first. However with that statement above? Who (government) is attacking who (government)? No one. It's just your greedy Americans demanding something they cannot have; and someone is supplying them.

The only reason why the United States got away with its aggressive policy for so long is because of the dumb veto powers within the Security Council.
 
I means, would you support your own government banning firearms?

I means... people who use firearms harm other people right? All the reason to make them illegal, right?

They tried that; all it did was created a black market for small arms trafficking. The people trafficking weaponry didn't care about the death, the suffering and pain that the underground brought upon the people.
 
jillio said:
Bingo. Oh, were life as simple and the answers as simplistic as some seem to believe.
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Yep.

I don't think people think about this...

In Vancouver, an unregulated drug addict costs taxpayers $45,000 a year in the ER. Controlled maintainance programs that allowed druggies get their fixes costs $7,000 per regulated user. The supervised users are not worried about when the next hit will be; they are not going to break into people's hoses to afford getting the dopes off the streets. The supervised users are more likely to get jobs as well, which means they will be paying taxes back into the system.

Just wish that program could be expanded to accommodate all the druggies in East Hastings. I would rather pay $7,000 a year for a druggie to be supervised than to be paying $45,000 for treating an overdose.
 
Old news, but... I think people should see this:

BBC News - Vancouver: 'Drug Central' of North America

But the war started far away: the escalation in Canada's violence is a result of a crackdown by Mexican authorities on drug gangs there.

"Everything is global now," says Supt Pat Fogarty, of British Columbia's Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit, which tackles organised crime in the region.
"When the war started, the cartels were too busy fighting the Mexican government... which caused a breakdown in the distribution lines, so people weren't getting their drugs," he says.

"There would be territorial takeovers, rip-offs, a variety of things that caused tension… If you look at the time in which this disruption occurred in Mexico and the disruption that occurred here, you can see the correlation between the two," he adds.
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