Law professor on Obama

[jillio]

How does one's grades from college or high school have to do with one's ability to run for office? Did Obama say that he got perfect grades?

Of course he never said that. And it has already been established that his grades from law school have virtually nothing to do with his presidency. It is nothing more than an attempt to sling mud again.

 

[kokonut]

How does one's grades from college or high school have to do with one's ability to run for office? Did Obama say that he got perfect grades?

It's about transparency, or honesty as you put it. It's interesting that he won't let his transcripts out. This is about electing an official to become the most powerful person on Earth. People want to see his resume', his V.C., and his history.

 

[shel90]

It's about transparency, or honesty as you put it. It's interesting that he won't let his transcripts out. This is about electing an official to become the most powerful person on Earth. People want to see his resume', his V.C., and his history.

Didnt he get his law degree? Apparently his grades were good enough for graduation.

 

[kokonut]

Didnt he get his law degree? Apparently his grades were good enough for graduation.

That's debatable. We have nothing to look at or compare it with. I raise that issue because of what one law professor said....though anecdotal.

 

[Beowulf]

That's debatable. We have nothing to look at or compare it with. I raise that issue because of what one law professor said....though anecdotal.

Lol. I maintain that Bush had someone write his papers in college. It is so obvious.
On the other hand, I feel certain that Obama didn't cheat. That is just me, so call it anecdotal.

 

[kokonut]

Lol. I maintain that Bush had someone write his papers in college. It is so obvious.
On the other hand, I feel certain that Obama didn't cheat. That is just me, so call it anecdotal.

What papers? Link?

 

[Beowulf]

What papers? Link?

Lol. Just an educated guess. I stand by it, though.

 

[kokonut]

Then it's a guess, nothing more.

 

[jillio]

It's about transparency, or honesty as you put it. It's interesting that he won't let his transcripts out. This is about electing an official to become the most powerful person on Earth. People want to see his resume', his V.C., and his history.

Calling for him to let his out, without calling for all politicians to make their college transcripts public, is nothing short of discrimination.

Uhhh...BTW...that would be his CV, not is V.C. And no need to see both a resume and a CV, as they contain the same information. In fact, the CV is more extensive.

Personally, I think anyone that demands someone else to make their college transcripts public, should, in good faith, make their own public first.

 

[jillio]

Lol. I maintain that Bush had someone write his papers in college. It is so obvious.
On the other hand, I feel certain that Obama didn't cheat. That is just me, so call it anecdotal.

Considering the number of below average grades Bush got, if he wrote a passing paper at all, it had to be someone else writing it!

 

[jillio]

That's debatable. We have nothing to look at or compare it with. I raise that issue because of what one law professor said....though anecdotal.

Anyone who gets into law school is going to have performed at a wella bove average rate to begin with. They don't accept just any Joe Blow off the street. Had he not made at least a "B" in his courses in law school, he would have been asked to leave the program. That is the way any graduate program works that results in licensure of any kind.

And...if you have his transcripts, you still have nothing to compare it with...unless every member of his graduating class also makes their transcripts public, his doesn't mean anything from a comparative base.

Hey, I've got an idea! Let's compare his transcripts to yours, Koko!

 

[jillio]

Didnt he get his law degree? Apparently his grades were good enough for graduation.

Not only that, he passed the bar exam.

 

[Reba]

Since some people feel that because one is a politican, their lives should be an open book so would you rather have a politican who admitted their wrongdoings they did in the past than trying to lie about it and be a hypocrate?

He voluntarily wrote his autobiography. I would say that is literally an "open book" that he put before the public. Since he brought up the subject of his drug use, he shouldn't mind providing the whole truth.

 

[jillio]

**shaking head at the complete absurdity of the unreasonable demands people make** Either apply them across the board, or don't apply them at all.

 

[Reba]

How can it be a double standard when everyone's transcript is sealed? Reach a little farther...you fell short on this one. Tellme Koko...how would you react if someone suddenly started posting your transcripts all over the net?

The double standard is publishing the transcripts of other candidates but expecting Obama's to be "off limits." The double standard is saying that Bush's transcript is indicative of his inability to govern but saying Obama's transcript would be indicative of nothing.

The single standard should be keeping all candidates' transcripts private.

Either all transcripts are important or all transcripts are not important.

 

[jillio]

The double standard is publishing the transcripts of other candidates but expecting Obama's to be "off limits." The double standard is saying that Bush's transcript is indicative of his inability to govern but saying Obama's transcript would be indicative of nothing.

The single standard should be keeping all candidates' transcripts private.

Either all transcripts are important or all transcripts are not important.

No, the others that you mentioned released theirs voluntarily. And it most certainly is a double standard to demand Obama's transcripts without demanding the transcripts of every other elected official in this country.

No one said Bush's transcript was indicative of his inability to govern. He didn't need to make his transcripts public for people to finally understand that. He proved through example.

And, without comparison, since he is not practicing law, grades from law school are completely irrelevent.

 

[Beowulf]

The double standard is publishing the transcripts of other candidates but expecting Obama's to be "off limits." The double standard is saying that Bush's transcript is indicative of his inability to govern but saying Obama's transcript would be indicative of nothing.

The single standard should be keeping all candidates' transcripts private.

Either all transcripts are important or all transcripts are not important.

I don't see the need for transcript inspections.

 

[shel90]

He voluntarily wrote his autobiography. I would say that is literally an "open book" that he put before the public. Since he brought up the subject of his drug use, he shouldn't mind providing the whole truth.

I guess college and high schools transcripts are very important. I just dont see the revelance. I guess it is not important to me as something like drug abuse.

 

[Reba]

No, the others that you mentioned released theirs voluntarily. And it most certainly is a double standard to demand Obama's transcripts without demanding the transcripts of every other elected official in this country.

Only the Presidents and presidential candidates since that's who we are comparing.

No one said Bush's transcript was indicative of his inability to govern.

Yes, they did, many times and places.

 

[jillio]

Only the Presidents and presidential candidates since that's who we are comparing.


Yes, they did, many times and places.

Fine. Demand that the transcripts for all become public knowledge. Although I'm not sure what exactly you think will be accomplished by that. The only thing a high school transcript is good for is admission to college. The only thing an undergraduate transcript is good for is admission to a graduate program. The only thing a graduate transcript is good for is admission to an internship program or to show eligibility for professional licensure testing.

Obama has accomplished all of those things already.