Before Obamacare and After Obamacare

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Banjo said:
Shouldn't the driver's insurance agency be responsible for paying the medical bills since he was the one who hit and killed her?
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At first, I was thinking the same thing you do. However, according to the school newspaper, the driver's insurance paid for the medical bills, but not enough. Plus the Japanese parents needed money to move her body to her native Japan. This driver is a student as well. He is going to live with it for rest of his life.
 
Jiro said:
better than nothing, right? I mean it's been what? 30+ years? Enough of this farce.

30+ million Americans (including 8+ million children) are uninsured. Many can't afford it or got screwed by health insurances cuz of pre-existing condition.

I half-halfheartedly support this reform but I'm especially glad about the immediate changes. As for change that will take place in 2016, I am very concerned. I certainly hope the Senate will remove some items like mandatory insurance and anything relating to small business.
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Many children were not covered simply because the parents didn't file the paperwork. They were qualified.

The few children who were not qualified came from families with incomes in the $60,000 and above range. It merely wasn't a priority for those parents. It was affordable. Individual health care plans for children are pretty cheap already. CHIP even has a buy in program
 
Barbaro said:
At first, I was thinking the same thing you do. However, according to the school newspaper, the driver's insurance paid for the medical bills, but not enough. Plus the Japanese parents needed money to move her body to her native Japan. This driver is a student as well. He is going to live with it for rest of his life.
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That really sucks. :-/
 
TXgolfer said:
Many children were not covered simply because the parents didn't file the paperwork. They were qualified.

The few children who were not qualified came from families with incomes in the $60,000 and above range. It merely wasn't a priority for those parents. It was affordable. Individual health care plans for children are pretty cheap already. CHIP even has a buy in program
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that's what? 600,000 children out of 8 million? :dunno:
 
Barbaro said:
...This 21-year-old student from my American history class died walking on the sidewalk of the college. Driver lost control of his car, and ran over her. Her parents still have to pay over $60,000 for her dead daughter's medical bill, because she had no medical insurance. Thank goodness, the college had set up the fund to raise money to pay for that bill. It may not be enough to pay for that entire bill, but it is better than nothing.
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The car driver didn't have liability insurance? They didn't sue the driver?
 
Lighthouse77 said:
I guess if the gov't want to make 26 a dependent child, then he is a dependent child. now if we can only get rid of privacy rights as a parent and access his mental healthcare in college....
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That's the catch.

The parents will be responsible for the "child's" finances and insurance but have no authority to access the "child's" medical, mental health, or academic records.
 
Jiro said:
that's what? 600,000 children out of 8 million? :dunno:
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I am saying all were covered or were at least qualified to be covered. Those under $58,000 qualified for CHIP. Just had to apply. Those over $58,00o could buy into CHIP. The plan as it is now does nothing extra for children. In fact as it is now it doesn't help children with pre existing conditions. That is the gap article I posted (someone else posted it as well).
 
Barbaro said:
At first, I was thinking the same thing you do. However, according to the school newspaper, the driver's insurance paid for the medical bills, but not enough. Plus the Japanese parents needed money to move her body to her native Japan. This driver is a student as well. He is going to live with it for rest of his life.
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My nephew is attending a state university for his master's degree. The college requires him to carry his own medical insurance. I don't know if that's common.
 
Reba said:
My nephew is attending a state university for his master's degree. The college requires him to carry his own medical insurance. I don't know if that's common.
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I am pretty sure it is common now. Usually the school offers a great low cost plan
 
Banjo said:
It's a changing world these days. More and more adults are still living at home with their parents. Even these who are in their 30s and 40s.
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That has me wondering. If young people delay entering the full-time work force for more years, then they won't be contributing tax payers for those years. That means, fewer people contributing to Medicare, Social Security, and Obamacare. So who will provide the funds for all those programs? :hmm:


I bought my first house at the age of 24. Not many people of that age can claim they did the same these days.
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Good for you. :) Home ownership is definitely a maturing experience.
 
Reba said:
The car driver didn't have liability insurance? They didn't sue the driver?
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See my #82 post to Banjo


No, I don't think her Japanese parents sued. They appeared to be introvert.
 
Reba said:
My nephew is attending a state university for his master's degree. The college requires him to carry his own medical insurance. I don't know if that's common.
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My hubby was attending a state university for his master's degree, and it did not require him to carry his medical insurance.
 
Barbaro said:
See my #82 post to Banjo

No, I don't think her Japanese parents sued. They appeared to be introvert.
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They were able to send their daughter to a foreign country for college without medical insurance coverage?
 
Barbaro said:
My hubby was attending a state university for his master's degree, and it did not require him to carry his medical insurance.
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My nephew is on a full scholarship; maybe that's the reason? :dunno:
 
Reba said:
My nephew is attending a state university for his master's degree. The college requires him to carry his own medical insurance. I don't know if that's common.
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oh? Never heard of it. My state university automatically provides health insurance plan to full-time student.

TXgolfer said:
I am pretty sure it is common now. Usually the school offers a great low cost plan
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cheap yup and its health facility is free but the deduction sucks... if you needed to buy prescription...
 
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