Disabling Cars Over the Internet.....

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Fired From Texas Auto Dealer, ex-Employee Accused of Sabotaging 100 Cars Over Internet

A man fired from a Texas auto dealership used an Internet service to remotely disable ignitions and set off car horns of more than 100 vehicles sold at his old workplace, police said Wednesday.

Austin police arrested Omar Ramos-Lopez, 20, on Wednesday, charging him with felony breach of computer security.

Ramos-Lopez used a former colleague's password to deactivate starters and set off car horns, police said. Several car owners said they had to call tow trucks and were left stranded at work or home.

"He caused these customers, now victims, to miss work," Austin police spokeswoman Veneza Aguinaga said. "They didn't get paid. They had to get tow trucks. They didn't know what was going on with their vehicles."

Ramos-Lopez was in the Travis County Jail on Wednesday with bond set at $3,000. The Associated Press could not find a working phone number for his family.

The Texas Auto Center dealership in Austin installs GPS devices that can prevent cars from starting. The system is used to repossess cars when buyers are overdue on payments, said Jeremy Norton, a controller at the dealership where Ramos-Lopez worked. Car horns can be activated when repo agents go to collect vehicles and believe the owners are hiding them.

"We are taking extra measures to make sure this never happens again," Norton said.

Starting in mid-February, dealership employees noticed unusual changes to their business records. Someone was going into the system and changing customers' names, such as having dead rapper Tupac Shakur buying a 2009 vehicle, Norton said.

Soon, customers began calling saying their cars wouldn't start, or that their horns were going off incessantly, forcing them to disengage the battery. Norton said the dealership originally thought the cars had mechanical problems.

Then employees noticed someone had ordered $130,000 in parts and equipment from the company that makes the GPS devices.

Police said they were able to trace the sabotage to Ramos-Lopez's computer, leading to his arrest.

Norton said Ramos-Lopez didn't seem unusually upset about being fired.

"I think he thought what he was doing was a harmless prank," Norton said. "He didn't see the ramifications of it."

Texan Accused of Disabling 100 Cars Over Internet - ABC News
 
Wow, it is a good thing that this remote immobilization program cannot work while the cars are running!
 
Wow, it is a good thing that this remote immobilization program cannot work while the cars are running!

yea it can. if your car was stolen - the company can have the car to automatically shut down when the car is at full stop.
 
yea it can. if your car was stolen - the company can have the car to automatically shut down when the car is at full stop.


On Star disabled a stolen car not too long ago in Tampa. During a police chase. Too funny it was all over the news and worked very well. It only took them 15 minutes to disable the car. Fortunatly no one was hurt.
 
I think he meant...

They can activate it, but it won't take effect unless the car come to a stop.

Oic, perhaps, I should have said "moving" but I thought "running" would have been seen as moving because, if it's stopped, there's no danger, lol. Thank you, though, Souggy.
 
What's next? remote control the stolen cars by steering them off the road? :P Naw, it won't happen.
 
On Star disabled the accelerator on the stolen car. So the car was disabled in that matter.

Came to a rolling stop then the person was arrested.
 
I can see this type of system to be abused all too often if this system becomes mainstream to all car dealers. What if a car dealer decides that being a day late for the payment, even if it happened on the first time, disables the car just because he likes being a a-hole?

What if there was a medical emergency, such as a woman going into labor and they can't start the car, so they end up having to pay $500 for a ambulance ride to the hospital?

I can see alot of potential problems with this type of system, especially if and when hackers find a way to target the system just for crap and giggles?

To me, personally, I see this system as another means of invasion of privacy. Also quite a possibility of potential lawsuits in the making.

Yiz
 
I think it would be great if loan companies could use this tool to stop the car.....If you can't pay for it, don't drive it.
 
I can see this type of system to be abused all too often if this system becomes mainstream to all car dealers. What if a car dealer decides that being a day late for the payment, even if it happened on the first time, disables the car just because he likes being a a-hole?

What if there was a medical emergency, such as a woman going into labor and they can't start the car, so they end up having to pay $500 for a ambulance ride to the hospital?

I can see alot of potential problems with this type of system, especially if and when hackers find a way to target the system just for crap and giggles?

To me, personally, I see this system as another means of invasion of privacy. Also quite a possibility of potential lawsuits in the making.

Yiz


No different from repoing a car.

Still left stranded, due to not paying the payments.

Don't pay the light bill you get left in the dark. Same concept.
 
I can see this type of system to be abused all too often if this system becomes mainstream to all car dealers. What if a car dealer decides that being a day late for the payment, even if it happened on the first time, disables the car just because he likes being a a-hole?

What if there was a medical emergency, such as a woman going into labor and they can't start the car, so they end up having to pay $500 for a ambulance ride to the hospital?

I can see alot of potential problems with this type of system, especially if and when hackers find a way to target the system just for crap and giggles?

To me, personally, I see this system as another means of invasion of privacy. Also quite a possibility of potential lawsuits in the making.

Yiz

simple - don't buy a car from dealership that has this policy. This remote access is mentioned in the contract you sign prior to purchasing a car.
 
I think this a good idea, you will be allowed to drive your vehicle when we receive your payment in full and the check has cleared. I'm pretty sure they have to give you a 15 day grace-period before disabling the vehicle, they probably send a monthly statement in the mail, or at least a mail notification of a late payment, if not received by XX-date, the vehicle will be disabled until payment is received. Perfectly good concept really.
 
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