Mental Health Experts have serious lack of ethics:

Now you are posting about M.D.s M.D.s are not mental health care providers. We have already been through this. Evidently, the comprehension is still not up to par. Either that, or you do understand, but insist on continually posting false statements and non-applicable articles. Either way, you have destroyed your own credibility, August.

Do you think that you can pull any information about any field and suddenly declare it a statement regarding mental health care?

Someone needs to get their facts straight.:cool2:
 
Jiro said:
sounds like a new strain of Republican virus is spreading.... :Ohno:
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Nahhh...just the same old same old. Lies, misrepresentation, and falsities. Can't even admit to their own errors when pointed out in black and white. Just keep digging a bigger hole by attempting to justify. Sad, isn't it, that one is so disturbed or maladjusted that they feel they need to resort to such underhanded behavior?
 
jillio said:
Now you are posting about M.D.s M.D.s are not mental health care providers. We have already been through this. Evidently, the comprehension is still not up to par. Either that, or you do understand, but insist on continually posting false statements and non-applicable articles. Either way, you have destroyed your own credibility, August.

Do you think that you can pull any information about any field and suddenly declare it a statement regarding mental health care?

Someone needs to get their facts straight.:cool2:
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And why, pray tell, would you avoid stating that clinical psychiatrists can prescribe?

In addition to that, clinical psychologists can also prescribe medication ....

Why did you intentionally leave that out? Just curious ...

NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness | Policy Topics


In 2002, Governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico signed into law a bill that grants licensed, doctoral-level psychologists who have completed a training and certification program the right to prescribe psychiatric medications. This is the first law of its kind
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Steinhauer said:
And why, pray tell, would you avoid stating that clinical psychiatrists can prescribe?

In addition to that, clinical psychologists can also prescribe medication ....

Why did you intentionally leave that out? Just curious ...

NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness | Policy Topics
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I have never avoided stating that. In fact, I am the one that clarified it yesterday when you were so confused. And there is no such thing as a "clinical psychiatrist." They are simply M.D.s with a psychiatric specialty.

You are completely and utterly wrong. Clinical psychologists cannot prescribe medications of any type. Only an M.D. has prescribing privileges.

Do you need a referral, because I will be more than happy to provide one, August. You are getting worse with every post.

You might want to check your information before posting, especially when using outdated sources.

"Psychologists, in contrast, are expert with regard to mental illness, but are generally disqualified from prescribing regardless of how well trained they might be to do so because they are not physicians." ....from a position paper found in the APA journal.

Your posts are very telling. But like most people with issues, you fail to see yours even though everyone else does. It's actually very typical.
 
In 2002, Governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico signed into law a bill that grants licensed, doctoral-level psychologists who have completed a training and certification program the right to prescribe psychiatric medications. This is the first law of its kind
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just quoting it again with emphasis.

Who the heck is August?
 
Steinhauer said:
just quoting it again with emphasis.

Who the heck is August?
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The only state that applies to is New Mexico, and the psychologists that have prescribing privileges have undergone a rigorous 2 year program with one year under supervision of a practicing psychiatrist. In other words, in order to gain that privilege, they have undertaken more education and training than the psychiatrist themselves have.

And, you do understand that a Ph.D. is a higher level degree than an M.D., don't you? An M.D. is classified as a professional level degree. A Ph.D. is a terminal degree.

But I don't expect you to have your facts straight. It is glaringly obvious that your intent is dishonesty in an attempt to settle some long held onto grudge that you apparently have against the mental health field. That, in and of itself, disqualifies you from any iota of credibility. Add to that your behavior captured in black and white, and no one gives anything you have to say any weight at all. You have gotten the attention you so desperately seek, but it is all negative. You are much worse off than you were 24 hours ago, and you can thank yourself for that.

And, you know full well who August is.
 
Steinhauer said:
Napa State Hospital chief is accused of molesting son - Los Angeles Times


Who am I to say what this guy did was wrong? I don't know the super secret psycho babble lingo of the APA ;)
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You can say the guy is wrong by subscribing to our cultural norm which states: "Anyone in authority who seduces or coerces sexual favors from those whom they have authority over has committed a despicable act."

It does not matter what the authority is and it does not matter what the gender of the subordinate is -- And it would still be wrong it they were all his own age or even older.

Either you agree with that cultural norm or you do not.

As to its psychological or psychiatric classification: That is a separate issue.






Steinhauer said:
Should I have instead mentioned Dr. Timothy Leary?
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Berry said:
Okay, I gotta ask ya, "What does Timothy Leary have to do with this?
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And I'm still wondering.




Steinhauer said:
ever heard of managed mental health care?


When mental health experts are getting paid to prescribe a pharmaceutical company's drug, there will be a tendency to intentionally misdiagnose.


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This is in fact true and a lot of us are averse to the practice. Even more insidious is the tendency to unintentionally misdiagnose. The prescriber is not even aware they are coming down on the side of their own benefit in borderline cases.

But all you are really saying is that people in the mental health field are no better -- and no worse -- than the average person.

Setting "higher standards" for someone else, or some other group, and then being disappointed, or feeling betrayed, when that person or group does not live up to those standards is surely an identifiable syndrome -- But as I am uneducated I would have to ask someone with the proper training.



posts from hell said:
I don't appreciate a person who is in the field of psychology and such name calling.
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Once again this is setting standards for someone else and then expecting them to live up to those standards.
 
Steinhauer said:
Imagine that, a person in the field of psychiatry would try to make ANYONE out to be "crazy" when they show ANYONE in your profession in a negative light.

Well there you go, a shining example of one of your colleagues with a position of authority.

Instead of condemning the actions of this man, you have sought to instead attack the messenger.

That is a lack of ethics I might add.
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But your title implies that all mental health experts lack in ethics. If someone said created a title saying that teachers molest children then I would attack the messenger too for a misleading title.
 
I got the impression that this is nothing but a thread to troll Jillio.

Which the creator of this thread is doing a :nono:
 
Tousi said:
The OP is new here so I don't see the connection.
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Here is a screenshot of properties of his photos I took. Schweisshund is the album owner. That was one of August's identities. So not Chase, but a similar writer. And not new at all.

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Thanks, Souggy but I still don't see how this thread "is an attempt to troll Jillio". I think maybe I shall let sleeping dogs lie.
 
Tousi said:
Thanks, Souggy but I still don't see how this thread "is an attempt to troll Jillio". I think maybe I shall let sleeping dogs lie.
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One indication is I have posted directly to the OP twice in this thread. Others have posted: And have been ignored each time. However every one of Jillio's posts is replied too.

This would tend to indicate the OP is not even reading anyone's posts except hers.

Could be wrong but I won't be back on board for a few days so it probably doesn't matter.
 
Berry said:
One indication is I have posted directly to the OP twice in this thread. And have been ignored each time. However every one of Jillio's posts is replied too.

This would tend to indicate the OP is not even reading anyone's posts except hers.

Could be wrong but I won't be back on board for a few days so it probably doesn't matter.
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Plus, the news is from February. Hardly "current," and probably would be unknown to someone who read the daily news unless they're actively looking for such articles.
 
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