Mental Health Experts have serious lack of ethics:

You have sunk to a new low; Your own issues are becoming glaringly obvious as a result.

The title of your thread makes the assumption that all mental health practitioners are unethical. And you base this assumption on the fact that you spent several hours locating a story about ONE administrator of one forensic hospital.

I am beginning to feel sorry for you. You really do have some stuff you need to deal with. But this forum isn't the place. I suggest you find a good therapist. Or, you can continue to live your life in the misery you are in. Your choice. Evidently, you are convinced you have a grudge to settle. Go settle it.
 
You have sunk to a new low; Your own issues are becoming glaringly obvious as a result.

The title of your thread makes the assumption that all mental health practitioners are unethical. And you base this assumption on the fact that you spent several hours locating a story about ONE administrator of one forensic hospital.

I am beginning to feel sorry for you. You really do have some stuff you need to deal with. But this forum isn't the place. I suggest you find a good therapist. Or, you can continue to live your life in the misery you are in. Your choice. Evidently, you are convinced you have a grudge to settle. Go settle it.

Why would someone who type like a conspiracy theorist would even seek out help?

I know it's bad stereotyping, but when you see this kind of lingo occurring again and again with people who think alike... you can't help but wonder.
 
You have sunk to a new low; Your own issues are becoming glaringly obvious as a result.

The title of your thread makes the assumption that all mental health practitioners are unethical. And you base this assumption on the fact that you spent several hours locating a story about ONE administrator of one forensic hospital.

I am beginning to feel sorry for you. You really do have some stuff you need to deal with. But this forum isn't the place. I suggest you find a good therapist. Or, you can continue to live your life in the misery you are in. Your choice. Evidently, you are convinced you have a grudge to settle. Go settle it.

Imagine that, a person in the field of psychiatry would try to make ANYONE out to be "crazy" when they show ANYONE in your profession in a negative light.

Well there you go, a shining example of one of your colleagues with a position of authority.

Instead of condemning the actions of this man, you have sought to instead attack the messenger.

That is a lack of ethics I might add.
 
Why would someone who type like a conspiracy theorist would even seek out help?

I know it's bad stereotyping, but when you see this kind of lingo occurring again and again with people who think alike... you can't help but wonder.

Well, you are correct. From what I've seen, I doubt this is someone who would seek out help, because they are firmly convinced that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. (No matter that laws of probability discount that entirely.) But, I would be ethically amiss if I didn't suggest seeking help for someone who desperately and obviously needs it. Then the ball is in their court, and the choice has been made available to them. If they turn it down, then they have no one to blame for their misery but themselves.
 
Imagine that, a person in the field of psychiatry would try to make ANYONE out to be "crazy" when they show ANYONE in your profession in a negative light.

Well there you go, a shining example of one of your colleagues with a position of authority.

Instead of condemning the actions of this man, you have sought to instead attack the messenger.

That is a lack of ethics I might add.

Dude, you seriously need help. But this forum is not the place for it. You need to take your attention seeking somewhere else. No one here is inclined to play your games with you.
 
Should I have instead mentioned Dr. Timothy Leary?

In what context? I am beginning to notice some disturbed thought patterns in your postings. You are either seeing things that don't exist, or are making an attempt to create them to match your own reality. Either way, it is not a sign of a healthy individual.
 
Well, you are correct. From what I've seen, I doubt this is someone who would seek out help, because they are firmly convinced that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. (No matter that laws of probability discount that entirely.) But, I would be ethically amiss if I didn't suggest seeking help for someone who desperately and obviously needs it. Then the ball is in their court, and the choice has been made available to them. If they turn it down, then they have no one to blame for their misery but themselves.



Have we a doozie now.
 
I, for one, am thinking the so called "psychiatrist" mentioned in the article is a doozie.

But sure, go right on ahead and prove my point that there is a lack of ethics in your field ;)

Keep attacking the messenger.
 
Well, you know what's funny?

People who have strong conspiracy theories and paranoia TEND to be committed or jailed because of their mental illness. If they get to the point that they think the government is plotting against them and starts to pile up tons of guns and make threats to officials, then they DO get noticed and that only agitates them more.

I had a friend who was so convinced the government is plotting against him and he lost his mind and comitted robbery... now he's in a mental ward. The court declared him incompetent.
 
I, for one, am thinking the so called "psychiatrist" mentioned in the article is a doozie.

But sure, go right on ahead and prove my point that there is a lack of ethics in your field ;)

Keep attacking the messenger.

You might want to read your sources a bit more carefully. The man in the article is not a psychiatrist. He is a registered nurse.

The only lack of ethics I see being demonstrated here is the intentional and deliberate falsification of posts.
 
Napa State Hospital chief is accused of molesting son - Los Angeles Times


Who am I to say what this guy did was wrong? I don't know the super secret psycho babble lingo of the APA ;)

from your article -

Foulk, a registered nurse, previously worked as a manager at the California Department of Mental Health. Before that, he served as chief executive at community acute psychiatric hospitals, including CPC Horizon Hospital and Clinic in Pomona and CPC Alhambra Psychiatric Hospital in Rosemead, according to state documents.

so that's why they make hospital gown with exposed rear..... :ugh:
 
The thread is titled, "Mental Health Experts have serious lack of ethics". The article is about a man who molested at least five children.

What does that have to do with the mental health experts and their ethics?

It's incredibly misleading. What gives?
 
sounds like a new strain of Republican virus is spreading.... :Ohno:
 
Reducing Misdiagnosis of Psychiatric Disorders

Washington, D.C. - Misdiagnosis or incomplete diagnosis of bipolar disorder is extensive among psychiatric patients, according to a study published in the January 2001 Journal of Psychiatric Services.

Psychiatrists who reconsider diagnoses in overlapping areas of bipolar depression, major depression and other disorders are more likely to make correct diagnoses, according to the study, which suggests that between 15% and 40% of patients with bipolar disorder are misdiagnosed. Bipolar disorder is characterized by episodes of a major depressive disorder with manic tendencies.

Lead author Charles L. Bowden, M.D., chairman of the department of psychiatry at the University of Texas Health Science Center, says the most effective way to prevent misdiagnosis is to fully discuss comorbid, or multiple disorders with any patient that may be at high risk. Encouraging patients to look for subtle yet diagnosis-defining manic sides of the illness is crucial.

"It's important to put it in the person's consciousness, rather than just relying on your own assessment," Bowden says. One reason is that the effects of depression can be long-lasting, whereas the manic symptoms are generally more fleeting and less likely to be recognized by a doctor who does not have the benefit of observing a patient at all times.

It is also a good idea to have a significant other or family member participate in some components of a patient's assessment. Patients may not always acknowledge parts of their illness, especially the manic parts. "Often, they're not withholding or denying, but it just doesn't register," Bowden says. "Having a family member there can give them objectivity."

The study indicates that current limitations of diagnostic tools and resources result in patients who are treated with antidepressants without the benefit of mood stabilizers. For this reason, it is important that clinicians be aware of any hint of bipolar disorder developing in the course of antidepressant therapy.

Because the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Fourth-Edition requires a manic episode to make a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, many patients are initially diagnosed and treated as having major depression. A manic episode involves a distinct period of abnormal, irritable moods, characterized by inflated self-esteem, sleeplessness and other traits.

In some cases, misdiagnosis is a function of symptom overlap, while other patients may truly have more than one disorder. In the past, bipolar disorder was often misdiagnosed as schizophrenia, but this problem diminished with the realization that psychosis is common in both disorders, rather than specifically to schizophrenia.

["Strategies to Reduce Misdiagnosis of Bipolar Depression," by Charles L. Bowden, M.D., et al., p. 51, Journal of Psychiatric Services, January 2001.]
---American Psychiatric Association


ever heard of managed mental health care?


Did you really read why the Obama administration is doing a healthcare overhaul?

Key word is .... corruption - however, the majority of the blame is being placed on health insurance companies and NOT the professionals that misdiagnose mental illnesses. Well ... at least that is what is being said by the media "spin doctors".


Please explain to me how someone can claim a person has a mental illness and needs "help" by posts on an internet forum ..... :hmm:


Half kids labeled bipolar may be misdiagnosed - Mental health- msnbc.com


When mental health experts are getting paid to prescribe a pharmaceutical company's drug, there will be a tendency to intentionally misdiagnose.

Paid to prescribe ..... Right under your noses.

Doctors Paid To Prescribe Generic Pills: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance,

Pharmaceutical companies have long gone to great lengths to try to get doctors to prescribe their brand-name pills. They spend billions of dollars, plying physicians with samples, educational lunches and speaker fees. But as the patents for a growing number of blockbuster medicines expire, some health insurers are trying to trump those perks with bonuses or higher reimbursements for writing more generic prescriptions.

But the more aggressive approaches, such as cash rewards for each patient switched from a given list of drugs, are coming under fire for injecting financial incentives into what some patient advocates and legislators say should be a purely medical decision. Medical societies are also concerned that such rewards may put doctors in the ethically questionable position of taking a payment that patients know nothing about.



Don't shoot the messenger!!!!
 
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