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IF you were a victim and been emotional abused, physical abuse, verbal abuse, economic abuse, isolation or intimidation. What you will do and where you will go?

If you were in abusive relationship and did not do anything. Explain why you think or know you won't do anything?

Many times the Deaf victims stay with their abusers because of communication barriers outside their home. It should not happen but is happening everywhere. How can we fix this problem? How can the victims communicate with the police officers, doctors and attorney?

It is not the only main reason. Because it is small world, the deaf community tends to be very "tight-knit" and many people have ties that lead to others from coast-to-coast. Many times the victims are embarrassed to report to the familiar counselors, interpreters and advocates. Again, how can we fix this problem?

Any comment, advice, opinions, thoughts are VERY welcome here. It won't be wrong or right. Just wanted to know how you would react when it comes to this difficult situation.
 
the most likely first person to contact - a counselor who knows ASL.... like Jillio - our ADer. Victims are too embarrassed to use terps. I think we need to have a website or a standardized database so that they (victims, police, etc) know who and where the counselors w/ ASL are.
 
I have no experience to be in this situation yet or can't give you any stories. I know one who grew up where he was, and decided to get help when he realize that he had drug problems and hurt his friends around there. He decided to go to other state for help that he did not know any one. he was in rehab in other state for couple of years. Last time i heard from him that he decided to stay there after rehab place. He seems to be more confident to be around with deaf people in other state even though every one knew that he had drug problems. He decided not to come back home where he came from. sorry for not being able to give some information.

That's a good thread.
 
I think many deaf would feel more comfortable to use the computer. So maybe something to do with computers or VRS?

I read about how a counselor from a far place is counseling over the VRS now because it it is hard for deaf to find a local therapy or counseling. I don't know where I read it from yet but it was recently.
 
It is not a bad idea, Jiro. But it will take years for legal professional and counselors to adopt this idea. Agencies/precincts should hire more deaf advocates, counselors and social workers or hearing that are trained in ASL.

Lighthouse77 has an interesting info. I never thought of it. It is a great idea!! But is it same as meeting in person? When a person break down and need to comfort them, how they will do it via video phone? But hey ... our resources are very limited. We cannot reject their ideas.

FF - I have heard some people do that. They have money to move out and settle in a new place, but not many victims have that opportunity to start a new life in different state due to their financial problems.
 
When I was an undergrad, I was an RA for a year and I had to deal with this through residents. My residents were hearing though. We had appropriate resources on campus, which made a difference. The counselors were NOT active on campus - meaning that people didn't confuse them with friend vs. counselor.

I do agree that I would feel more comfortable with the computer. A few years ago - I was really frustrated about not being able to talk to people very well and such and I ended up writing to a website about troubled kids and the encouragement I got from a stranger made all the difference for the next six months. Granted this may not work with victims of domestic violence and such - but I do believe that friendship and support can come from the internet such as AD.

When one reports such things - does it always occur in person? Is there way to fill out the forms online?

In all honesty – I have no clue where I’d go. I moved somewhat recently and I’m unsure of what resources are available to me. Good topic.
 
Unfortunately many women who are being abused don't even realize it is wrong. They are "trained" to believe it is their fault and if they leave nobody will want them. Having the resources is one step. Making women feel valuable is a great first step.

I do agree that a online would be much easier for deaf and also hearing. This is the type of thing where a women feels ashamed and embarrassed.
 
IF you were a victim and been emotional abused, physical abuse, verbal abuse, economic abuse, isolation or intimidation. What you will do and where you will go?

If you were in abusive relationship and did not do anything. Explain why you think or know you won't do anything?

Many times the Deaf victims stay with their abusers because of communication barriers outside their home. It should not happen but is happening everywhere. How can we fix this problem? How can the victims communicate with the police officers, doctors and attorney?

It is not the only main reason. Because it is small world, the deaf community tends to be very "tight-knit" and many people have ties that lead to others from coast-to-coast. Many times the victims are embarrassed to report to the familiar counselors, interpreters and advocates. Again, how can we fix this problem?

Any comment, advice, opinions, thoughts are VERY welcome here. It won't be wrong or right. Just wanted to know how you would react when it comes to this difficult situation.

What you will do and where you will go?

I was Abused for 5 years. It took me seeing a movie at my mother's house to realize that I needed to get out and do something, plus I have two boys that I did not want to grow up like their father. I suffered Physical, Mental, Emotional, Verbal and Manipulation abuse.

Since I was working, my income the only income in the household, I spoke with my then boss about my situation and he allowed me the chance to go and speak with the police officers. The next time I went and met with them, they provided me with an interpreter and I explained my situation with them. They gave me information to an organization that helps victims of abuse find a way to leave, safely and a safe house in an undisclosed location.

There are organisations out there that will help you with whatever you need, they will counsel you on what your relationship is and provide you the support to get out and get a better life. Caasa is one such organisation. Another, is part of the county you live in, mine was Upper Des Moines Oppurtunity, Department of Human Services. They will help you get back on your feet with funding, counseling, basically help you regroup so you can live a better life. These organizations and any other that is slated to helping victims of abuse will always do what they have to do to help the victims. WITH ANYTHING!

They always have a safehouse, a place that noone knows where it is except the people that run it and the Victims. There is always a place to go.


If you were in abusive relationship and did not do anything. Explain why you think or know you won't do anything?

I did not do anything for years mostly out of fear of the abuser. When struck he would always croon 'I love you and I am sorry, I won't do it again!' If I tried to leave he would either say 'Please don't leave! I will kill myself!' or I would find myself on the floor being stomped on repeatedly to the point that I could not move for a long while. When things like that are said to you, you feel guilty and then feel that you are at fault and decide to try again, for the 1,000ths time.

When you are told, or called names, or put down you start to believe that you are at fault. That's how it was with me, I started to believe everything he said about me, I started to believe that I was fat when I weighed 110 pounds, I started to believe that I was stupid when he ranted at me for not drying off the plates, forks or spoons which ended up with spots on them. I started to believe that I was not working hard enough to make money when I was working 14, 16 hour days overtime, then coming home to do chores until 3 am in the morning, only to go to bed and get up in 3 hours later.

Mostly out of fear of him and the guilt that I was at fault for everything, prevented me from doing anything.

Many times the victims are embarrassed to report to the familiar counselors, interpreters and advocates. Again, how can we fix this problem?


With me it was not the embarrassment, it was the fear that he would find out and I would wind up beaten again.

A lot of times victims are isolated away from the world, away from their families, and friends. If they go out to 'have fun' a friend of the abuser always goes with to 'report back' what the victim does.

The one way to help is recognise the signs of abuse in a victim, and always let them know that you are there to talk to them about anything should they need someone to talk to. STRESS to them that you will not say anything to the Abuser, but will help in anyway you can. Victim will often times retract back what they want to do, because of the fear factor. Manipulation is another thing that is used against the Victim to keep them from running.

Many times the Deaf victims stay with their abusers because of communication barriers outside their home.

At the time that I left I did not care. I just wanted to run away, as far away as possible. One thing that can be used is paper and pen, the next step is getting an interpreter once you are safe.

If I recognised another victim like myself then I would step forward and help them in any way I can. I would tell them that I was in their shoes once and know what happens and can help.
 
What you will do and where you will go?

I was Abused for 5 years. It took me seeing a movie at my mother's house to realize that I needed to get out and do something, plus I have two boys that I did not want to grow up like their father. I suffered Physical, Mental, Emotional, Verbal and Manipulation abuse.

Since I was working, my income the only income in the household, I spoke with my then boss about my situation and he allowed me the chance to go and speak with the police officers. The next time I went and met with them, they provided me with an interpreter and I explained my situation with them. They gave me information to an organization that helps victims of abuse find a way to leave, safely and a safe house in an undisclosed location.

There are organisations out there that will help you with whatever you need, they will counsel you on what your relationship is and provide you the support to get out and get a better life. Caasa is one such organisation. Another, is part of the county you live in, mine was Upper Des Moines Oppurtunity, Department of Human Services. They will help you get back on your feet with funding, counseling, basically help you regroup so you can live a better life. These organizations and any other that is slated to helping victims of abuse will always do what they have to do to help the victims. WITH ANYTHING!

They always have a safehouse, a place that noone knows where it is except the people that run it and the Victims. There is always a place to go.


If you were in abusive relationship and did not do anything. Explain why you think or know you won't do anything?

I did not do anything for years mostly out of fear of the abuser. When struck he would always croon 'I love you and I am sorry, I won't do it again!' If I tried to leave he would either say 'Please don't leave! I will kill myself!' or I would find myself on the floor being stomped on repeatedly to the point that I could not move for a long while. When things like that are said to you, you feel guilty and then feel that you are at fault and decide to try again, for the 1,000ths time.

When you are told, or called names, or put down you start to believe that you are at fault. That's how it was with me, I started to believe everything he said about me, I started to believe that I was fat when I weighed 110 pounds, I started to believe that I was stupid when he ranted at me for not drying off the plates, forks or spoons which ended up with spots on them. I started to believe that I was not working hard enough to make money when I was working 14, 16 hour days overtime, then coming home to do chores until 3 am in the morning, only to go to bed and get up in 3 hours later.

Mostly out of fear of him and the guilt that I was at fault for everything, prevented me from doing anything.

Many times the victims are embarrassed to report to the familiar counselors, interpreters and advocates. Again, how can we fix this problem?


With me it was not the embarrassment, it was the fear that he would find out and I would wind up beaten again.

A lot of times victims are isolated away from the world, away from their families, and friends. If they go out to 'have fun' a friend of the abuser always goes with to 'report back' what the victim does.

The one way to help is recognise the signs of abuse in a victim, and always let them know that you are there to talk to them about anything should they need someone to talk to. STRESS to them that you will not say anything to the Abuser, but will help in anyway you can. Victim will often times retract back what they want to do, because of the fear factor. Manipulation is another thing that is used against the Victim to keep them from running.

Many times the Deaf victims stay with their abusers because of communication barriers outside their home.

At the time that I left I did not care. I just wanted to run away, as far away as possible. One thing that can be used is paper and pen, the next step is getting an interpreter once you are safe.

If I recognised another victim like myself then I would step forward and help them in any way I can. I would tell them that I was in their shoes once and know what happens and can help.

I'm very sorry that this happened to you.:hug: I can relate to many of the things that you are saying.
 
If I recognised another victim like myself then I would step forward and help them in any way I can. I would tell them that I was in their shoes once and know what happens and can help.
Thank you for sharing your very personal experience. I hope it will encourage others.
 
thank you for sharing your personal experience. It is a heavy stuff to read. I praised and admire you for your encouragement. I understand it is not easy to face to any violence. It is why it’s important to educate everyone (not just women.)

It will be so needy to take a risk assessment when they see a red flag in their relationship. Then they decide what to do; go to the police station, look up for any resources available online, meet with social worker/counselor or domestic violence advocate and they will guide them to every step of the way.

Risk Assessment:
1)Physically abused the victim YES NO
2)Physical violence increased in frequency YES NO
3)Abuser stalks the victim YES NO
4)Physical violence increased in severity YES NO
5)Abuser tortured the victim YES NO
6)Poly-substance abuser YES NO
7)Abuser has a criminal record YES NO
8)Abuser attempted/killed household pets YES NO
9)Alcohol abuser YES NO
10)Decision to leave abuser was made by victim YES NO
11)Prior violence victim tries to leave in the past YES NO
12)Abuser violates court orders ordering him or her to stay away from the
victim YES NO
13)Abuser has undocumented history of felonious violence toward people
outside of the home or former intimate YES NO
14)Abuser attempted to commit suicide YES NO
15)Ice user YES NO
16)Threats of homicide YES NO
17)Threats to kill himself or herself YES NO
18)Abuser is obsessive and possessive YES NO
19)Access to firearms YES NO
20)Sexual abuse/coercion YES NO


Here is the links

Deaf Hope

ADWAS : ADWAS Home Page
 
MORE LINKS

California

Los Angeles
LACAAW—Los Angeles Commission on Assaults Against Women
www.lacaaw.org
213.955.9090
213.955.9095 – TDD

Colorado

Denver
DOVE—Advocacy Services for Abused Women
DeafDOVE.org
303.831.7932 – Voice – Office
303.831.7874 – TTY 24 hr Hotline

Washington DC

DAWN—Deaf abused Women’s Network
Deaf Abused Women's Network
866.290.3296 – TTY 24hr Hotline

Iowa

DWIAA—Deaf Women of Iowa Against Abuse

DWIAA Home Page
515.244.0875 – TTY
877.244.0875 – TTY Toll free


Illinois


DCAV—Deaf, blind and hard of hearing Community Against Violence
dcavchgo@aol.com

New York

ASDV—Advocacy Services for Deaf, blind and hard of hearing Victims
Rochester, NY
ASADV | Advocacy Services for Abused Deaf Victims
585.387.0744 – FAX
asadv@asadv.org

Barrier Free Justice/Victim Services Unit
Brookly, NY
TTY 718-250-2338
Voice message 718-250-3391
Email: martinezd1@brooklynDA.org


Ohio

DWAVE—Deaf Women Against Violence Everywhere
dwaveofcentralohio@aol.com

Pennsylvania

ADVAN—Abused Deaf Victims Advocacy Network
www.laurelhouseonline.org/advan.htm

888.883.0770 – TTY
800.642.3150 – Voice

Utah

SLCAD—Sego Lily
Center for the Abused Deaf
Sego Lily Center for the Abused Deaf - Home

800.897.5465 – Voice
800.787.3224 – TTY

Vermont

DVAS—Deaf Victims
Advocacy Services
Deaf Vermonters Advocacy Services (DVAS)

802.479.1934 – TTY Office
800.303.3827 – TTY Hotline

Virginia

VAV—Virginians
Against Violence
Virginia Sexual and Domestic Violence Action Alliance

757.221.0990 – Voice
804.377.7330 – TTY

Washington

ADWAS—Abused Deaf Women’s Advocacy Services
ADWAS : ADWAS Home Page

206.726.0093 – TTY Office
206.236.3134 – TTY Hotline

Deaf Women United
Deaf Women United, Inc.
 
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DGirl101,

My heart broke when I read your post about your experience. I am just happy that you got out and I hope someone who so frightened and feeling isolated reads this and get the courage to seek help.

:hug:
 
There also needs to be outreach work about teaching men and women about what healthy realtionships are. A lot of people (especially mainstreamed to the max kids) may not know what a healthy realtionship is.
Like for example, I had a friend (she is no longer my friend sadly) who is currently in a VERY controlling realtionship. He dictates how much money she can spend, which friends she can see, what shoes she can buy, and all this horrible controlling stuff....but she stays with him both b/c she's very screwed up emotionally and b/c she thinks she's "happy"
A lot of dhh folks may be stuck in simlair realtionships b/c they think they're "happy" or don't really know what a healthy realtionship is.
 
There also needs to be outreach work about teaching men and women about what healthy realtionships are. A lot of people (especially mainstreamed to the max kids) may not know what a healthy realtionship is.
Like for example, I had a friend (she is no longer my friend sadly) who is currently in a VERY controlling realtionship. He dictates how much money she can spend, which friends she can see, what shoes she can buy, and all this horrible controlling stuff....but she stays with him both b/c she's very screwed up emotionally and b/c she thinks she's "happy"
A lot of dhh folks may be stuck in simlair realtionships b/c they think they're "happy" or don't really know what a healthy realtionship is.
Sadly, parents aren't teaching (by example) what healthy relationships are to their children. Even having professionals teaching about healthy relationships is not the same as seeing a healthy relationship in action.

I don't understand what you mean about "especially mainstreamed to the max kids" not knowing what a healthy relationship is.
 
DGirl101, sorry to hear what you went through. But am happy you found the strength within yourself to get out of a volatile situation. It also helped that you had a understanding boss who allowed you to leave work to get the help.

What you went through, did it have a impact on your ex's access to the kids during custody battle?

Don't answer if you don't want to.
 
DGirl101, sorry to hear what you went through. But am happy you found the strength within yourself to get out of a volatile situation. It also helped that you had a understanding boss who allowed you to leave work to get the help.

What you went through, did it have a impact on your ex's access to the kids during custody battle?

Don't answer if you don't want to.

See thats the kicker there. I am willing to answer that now. When I left him I placed a restraining order on him, had a legal aid lawyer set it up so that he get parenting classes and a job and all sorts of things. At that time I was not working because of the whole situation, I was living off of FIP and food stamps and any help I could get but it was not enough. I had very little finances to get equipment specially made for the Deaf. I was reported so many times to DHS because of Him, all because he thinks that I am Deaf I am not capable of taking care of my babies.

When I started working, I had to work evening shifts and could not find anyone to take them and he would not allow it. He made threats and I believe him. He knows how to work around things to his advantage, thats part of the manipulation thing. I let the boys live with him in the summer when they finished school with the agreement that they would come back to my house a month before school started, and when I told him that it was time to get them ready to come home, he claimed that he never made that agreement. I spoke to a lawyer after that asking what I should do and he said that I would have to start divorce and custody proceedings.

I have been trying to get a lawyer to get a divorce from him for a LONG time. I went to legal aid and was denied each time due to lack of funding on their part or lack of Lawyers willing to do the divorce and custody cases. Each lawyer I went to all said they wanted a retaining fee, the minimum was 5,000 and the max asked for was 8,000. I asked lawyers online, pleading for help, none answered because I could not pay enough.

My family, my friends, and my sig. other had been calling around also for a lawyer that will help and finally my brother talked to one that would do it for a retainer of 1,000 and payments thereafter. I have the thou already in my pocket.

I go to see her tomorrow. I NEED to get my babies away from him, he is trying to pass on his 'legacy' they are still young enough that they will grow up to be good citizens and respectful of others and to themselves if we get them as much help as possible.

Since he has not let me get the boys back, he has isolated me from them, I dont see them on holidays, or their birthdays, I try to get them every weekend but he claims 'We have plans.' Since he would not let me get the boys back I have been keeping a journal of everything. I have acquaintances that has worked with him and knows how he is and have written afadavits and has signed it before a notary public. I have records from the sherrifs office, I have records at the Caasa Organisation, records from every place I could think of that has to do with this situation. I made arrangements secretely with the school the boys go to, to see what their progress was and how it is now. Their health and well-being, and making sure they are happy is upmost in my mind.

I have to do this very carefully or he will run with them and I don't think I could live with that.

Everyday is hard for me, I cry myself to sleep because I miss them so much.

The key thing is this: If you are a victim of abuse and children are involved, no matter what, whether he/she is a good parent, or not. DO NOT LET THEM HAVE THE CHILDREN LIVE WITH THEM. Don't make the same mistake I did, I pay for it day after day and it hurts.
 
To Everyone else, I thank you for the hugs and encouragement.

It may seem suprising to you, but I still have to find the courage to get out and do things. I still cry when I talk about it to anyone, and I need to talk about it instead of keeping it bottled up inside. I'm even talking to kids about it in school telling them my story.

I am afraid of any man coming near me. I am even afraid of men in my family hugging me. Even my own brothers and fathers.

I still have issues of self esteem to overcome and still am self consious.

I am seeking counseling for it. There are some deep scars. Others like me will do the same thing.
 
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