No Bond: Man Shot Daughter's B'Friend

sallylou said:
The man had to go get for a gun from a *separate (2nd) location,* follow the boyfriend into *the street* (3rd location), where he shot the boyfriend *4 times*. Then, the man lied to 911 about how he feared for his life. Clear criminal intent with plenty of time for consideration. Prosesutors are going to have a field day with this. The guy better plea bargain.
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As per the story..............."Thursday night, Wade Edwards arrived home to an unpleasant surprise. His 16-year-old stepdaughter daughter and Harp were having sex inside the family's Apopka home.

According to a police report, Edwards walked in on the two having sex. He left the girl's bedroom and Harp quickly threw on his clothes fearing something bad might happen.

Edwards walked into the room again, this time armed with .45-caliber handgun. Harp asked Edwards not to shoot, but police said he fired four times as he left the house."

..........The stepfather went into another room (probably his bedroom), got a gun, came back, the boyfriend was still in his daughter's bedroom.... the stepfather fired 4 shots "as the boyfriend was leaving the house."

Once the stepfather caught them, he left his daughter's bedroom....the boyfriend knew they had been caught.....he should have grabbed his clothes and ran out the door in the beginning......but he didn't.....he just put his clothes on and waited for the father to come back into the room.

Sure, the stepfather is gonna take the fall for this. Maybe even serve time. But it doesn't excuse the fact that the daughter was disobeying the rules in his home. And the boyfriend knew better! He was 18.

So what if he's "just the stepfather."! At least he is there for the daughter when her own father is not. It's his home. If the father had not even "shot" at the boyfriend, just beat him up...he would have gone to jail too, I assume.

Maybe the stepfather should have said....."Whoooops! Sorry I'm intruding on you both having sex!" and closed the door? I would have said "Get the hell out of my house before I blow ur head off." And if the boyfriend just stood there after I told him to leave my home, my property, I probably would have shot too.
 
Wow, you're a real law abiding citizen. That you claim you would do the same thing speaks volumes. :roll:

The point is that this guy had criminal intent. He decided (1) to get a gun (2) go the the location of the gun (3) find the boyfriend again (4) Fire once (5) decide to fire again (6) Fire twice (7) decide to fire again (8) fire a third time (9) decide to fire again (10) fire a fourth time. At *any* point during this scenario, the stepfather could have though better of his actions. He didn't. Clear criminal intent. Then, he tried to cover up the crime with a lie that he was in fear for his life. A flimsy attempt to concoct a manslaughter scenario. He'd better get a really good attorney.
 
sallylou said:
Wow, you're a real law abiding citizen. That you claim you would do the same thing speaks volumes. :roll:

The point is that this guy had criminal intent. He decided (1) to get a gun (2) go the the location of the gun (3) find the boyfriend again (4) Fire once (5) decide to fire again (6) Fire twice (7) decide to fire again (8) fire a third time (9) decide to fire again (10) fire a fourth time. At *any* point during this scenario, the stepfather could have though better of his actions. He didn't. Clear criminal intent. Then, he tried to cover up the crime with a lie that he was in fear for his life. A flimsy attempt to concoct a manslaughter scenario. He'd better get a really good attorney.
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Hopefully, yes, he will get a good attorney. If it were all adults involved in this, it would be a crime of passion.

I believe no one really knows how they would react in a situation such as this.

So, Sallylou, let's agree to disagree, OK? And yes, I do try to be a law-abiding citizen. But when it comes to children, even my own, I do believe I could shoot someone if necessary.
 
Everyone involved made bad decisions and the one made by the stepfather will forever impact evreryone involved and not involved for a long time.
 
Banjo said:
It doesn't matter, the stepfather is to be viewed as an equal authority figure as the daughter's mother in the house. Just because he is not related by blood doesn't mean he should be disrespected or perceived as a lesser authority figure in the house.
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ha...lol I never respected my ex stepfather as man of the house or whatever anyway. But yea I know.
 
IF i have my own children somedays i wouldnt let my kids have sex someone underages till get marriages till over 21 or 30 years old that my rules when my mom was young and she got married in Dec.1977 my dad she was 19 years old and my dad was 25 years old that crazy of my mom!! BUT now my mom is 51 years old and my dad is 56 years old but both divorce

But i makes my own decision i would like get married at 30 years old or whatevers ages in legal marriages ages but my mom would agreed!! My brother can wait get married also but he dont have girlfriend yet..But im current dating James Windsor i can wait get married him but he nearly 30 years old in March 22 2010.

I obey my mom's rules not let boyfriend in house till i got married somedays and also my dad also and my family too i cant argues.
 
A gun...I have to say that this would be very unsual in England...unless it was a farmer and a robber

When I was 18 and had my first boyfriend, my parents would knock on the door before they came in (they knew he was here) and if we were hiding under the covers they'd say whatever they came to tell me, then shut the door.

I've walked in on my parents before (the cat wanted to go in their room)- just say sorry, back out of the room quickly and shut the door- no harm done.

They had been seeing each other for a year- so the stepdad knew who the boyfriend was..not just some stranger who could have been sexually attacking the girl.

He shot him 4 times- the only time I would consider that acceptable is if the stepdads own life was at risk, someone was threatening to kill him etc- this is just ridiculous, really.

There's no mention of her actually 'breaking the rules' in the story; it's not said that the boyfriend was banned from the house, or anything like that.
 
melissa said:
A gun...I have to say that this would be very unsual in England...unless it was a farmer and a robber

When I was 18 and had my first boyfriend, my parents would knock on the door before they came in (they knew he was here) and if we were hiding under the covers they'd say whatever they came to tell me, then shut the door.

I've walked in on my parents before (the cat wanted to go in their room)- just say sorry, back out of the room quickly and shut the door- no harm done.

They had been seeing each other for a year- so the stepdad knew who the boyfriend was..not just some stranger who could have been sexually attacking the girl.

He shot him 4 times- the only time I would consider that acceptable is if the stepdads own life was at risk, someone was threatening to kill him etc- this is just ridiculous, really.

There's no mention of her actually 'breaking the rules' in the story; it's not said that the boyfriend was banned from the house, or anything like that.
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So ur parents allow you to have sex in their house without the benefit of matrimony? That's their house, they allow it, no big deal, right?....You say ur "ex" boyfriend, so I assume you've had sex with other men in ur bedroom and ur parents turn their head the other way?....Some parents are "OK" with it, some are not.

This girl was 16. The stepfather was not happy to see them having sex in HIS house when he walked in.....There's more to the story, I'm sure there is. But the 18 yr. old man "knew" he was in trouble, because he jumped up and put on his clothes, but still stayed in the bedroom......The stepfather would have not shot the 18 yr. old if he allowed them to have sex in his home, or if he just didn't care what the stepdaughter did.....But, apparently he did care.
 
RR, it's not your place to shame Melissa for any sexual activity that she may or may not have had.

You may believe that sex outside of marriage is a sin but you are not entitled to impose your beliefs on others.
 
sallylou said:
You're blaming the girl when it was the father who shot someone? That's crazy. :crazy:
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Agreed. I am concerned about the issues this child will have in the future, thanks to her father's actions. I see a full blown case of PTSD developing, and I would not be surprised at all if she developed a sexual dysfunction as a result, either. Severe depression is also a concern.

Way to protect and love a kid.:roll:
 
Banjo said:
Like Souggy said, he enforced it the wrong way. However, it was the daughter's bad choice that resulted in quite a severe consequence.

Like I said, she should had known better.
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Perhaps she "should" have known better, but we need to keep in mind that this is a teen ager, and teens quite often make less than wise decisions. It isn't because they are purposely misbehaving, but because they have not developed the cognitive processes necessary to make decisions the way an adult does.
 
sallylou said:
The man had to go get for a gun from a *separate (2nd) location,* follow the boyfriend into *the street* (3rd location), where he shot the boyfriend *4 times*. Then, the man lied to 911 about how he feared for his life. Clear criminal intent with plenty of time for consideration. Prosesutors are going to have a field day with this. The guy better plea bargain.
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Looks like premeditation to me, since he had to go to those lengths. He has plenty of time to consider his actions. And the fact that he lied to 911 shows presumtive guilt.
 
rockin'robin said:
She's 16. Who knows what she's going to feel in a few years? She's still a child! In a few years, she'll understand more, and yes, feel sorry she did this to her family.
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I doubt that very seriously. More likely is that this will cause a divide between her and her family that will never be resolved, and that she will be seeing a therapist for some time to come.
 
rockin'robin said:
So ur parents allow you to have sex in their house without the benefit of matrimony? That's their house, they allow it, no big deal, right?....You say ur "ex" boyfriend, so I assume you've had sex with other men in ur bedroom and ur parents turn their head the other way?....Some parents are "OK" with it, some are not.

This girl was 16. The stepfather was not happy to see them having sex in HIS house when he walked in.....There's more to the story, I'm sure there is. But the 18 yr. old man "knew" he was in trouble, because he jumped up and put on his clothes, but still stayed in the bedroom......The stepfather would have not shot the 18 yr. old if he allowed them to have sex in his home, or if he just didn't care what the stepdaughter did.....But, apparently he did care.
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Wow! That is quite an assumption to make. Let's not get judgemental here. And the insinuation that parents who allow a child to have sex in their home doesn't care about their child is way out of line. Personally, it would appear that Melissa's parents cared a great deal more about her safety and well being than the step father in the story cared.
 
jillio said:
Perhaps she "should" have known better, but we need to keep in mind that this is a teen ager, and teens quite often make less than wise decisions. It isn't because they are purposely misbehaving, but because they have not developed the cognitive processes necessary to make decisions the way an adult does.
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The father made quite a big mistake on his move, although like I said, bad choices will result in consequences. Look like it happened on both sides.
 
Banjo said:
The father made quite a big mistake on his move, although like I said, bad choices will result in consequences. Look like it happened on both sides.
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I agree that the daughter made perhaps a less than wise decision, particularly given the obvious violent nature of her stepfather, but I see the culpability as his. Her error in judgement is certainly not an excuse, or even a valid reason, for his actions. And no doubt, she will be paying for her decision for a lifetime.
 
Let's be careful about assuming that the girl knew about her stepfather's violent nature and should have altered her behavior to avoid his wrath. This is the mind game that abusive men use on their victims.

The stepfather chose his violent actions and he is responsible for his behavior.
 
sallylou said:
Let's be careful about assuming that the girl knew about her stepfather's violent nature and should have altered her behavior to avoid his wrath. This is the mind game that abusive men use on their victims.

The stepfather chose his violent actions and he is responsible for his behavior.
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I certainly agree that the stepfather is completely responsible for his behavior, as well as for the actions he chose to take. But I would still maintain that this level of violence has usually been an escalation of previous violent behavior. That isn't to say that the step daughter should have taken such into account, as she was a teen, and teens rarely engage in that level of logic simply because they are not developmentally capable of doing so.
 
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