Palin's Book = Going Bogus?

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kokonut said:
And Obama never had any help piecing it together either? none of the editing? the rearrangement? Additional inclusions or exclusions of words, paragraphs, chapters? Based on his history on honesty, I cast my doubts. But if he had help, most likely anyway, then that's fine. Did it all by himself? I still reserve my doubts.
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again - scroll up and use your reading comprehension skill.

*hint - see post #31*
 
Already read it. I cast doubts. Based on his history of lying I cast doubts.

:)
 
kokonut said:
Already read it. I cast doubts. Based on his history of lying I cast doubts.

:)
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why am I not surprised? :)

don't forget - this is about Palin's book, not Obama's books. so do you think Palin wrote most of it?
 
"When I heard that Sarah Palin wrote her upcoming 400-page autobiography, Going Rogue: An American Life, in four months, I thought, What took her so long? To prove that introspection doesn't need to be time-consuming, I decided to try to write my memoir in one day. Since Palin had a ghostwriter, I figured it was only fair that I have help too, so I called Neil Strauss, who co-wrote the best-selling memoirs of Marilyn Manson, Mötley Crüe, Dave Navarro and Jenna Jameson."

Me, Myself, I and Neil Strauss - TIME

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kokonut said:
That question applies equally well to other books written for politicians. Obama isn't exempted from that question.
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He is in this thread. This is a thread about Palin and her continuing misrepresentation and dishonesty. You want to discuss the authorship of Obama's book, start another thread.
 
kokonut said:
Already read it. I cast doubts. Based on his history of lying I cast doubts.

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That is supposed to be a credible reference?:laugh2:

If you want to accuse Obama of using a ghost writer, then A) find some substantial proof of such, and B) start a thread devoted to that topic.
 
netrox said:
Wouldn't you rather be credited than to have someone take your credit? Also, if someone reads your book and says, "Wow, you're so intelligent based on the way you write!" How would you feel knowing that you aren't the one that wrote it?
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Some writers don't have the pride issue--they prefer a steady pay check. I personally knew a ghost writer (speeches and books). To him, writing was a skilled occupation, nothing more.
 
It probably pays well. Once you are a ghostwriter for someone famous, you'd be more likely to get hired by other famous people. It seems like a good gig. It could finance the novel that an author wants to write.
 
sallylou said:
It probably pays well. Once you are a ghostwriter for someone famous, you'd be more likely to get hired by other famous people. It seems like a good gig. It could finance the novel that an author wants to write.
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pays well yes but a very hard one to land.
 
I think when Obama said "then I'd edit it as I typed it in", he was talking in a general sense self-editing as actually putting down the manuscript.......in a general sense.....not claiming that the work was not edited by publishing editors.
someone is only trying to lock someone into a lie anytime they make a general statement and haven't picked up the red phone to dial this particular person and explain in very specific detail to him exactly what happned or not....as if thisperson holds some type of clearance power on all matters.
noone needs to clarify everything in thier life thru anyones ego.
funny how these little untold things are not smashed when it is palin or others of her ilk doing the talking. And are actually deliberately left out. Such as the untruthful 'palin authorship' claim.
double standards again.
 
Reba said:
Some writers don't have the pride issue--they prefer a steady pay check. I personally knew a ghost writer (speeches and books). To him, writing was a skilled occupation, nothing more.
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And the answer to the last question is?
 
netrox said:
how would you feel if someone actually thought you wrote it when it was your ghostwriter that wrote it?
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I'm not a politician or celebrity, so there would be no value in my name on a book cover.

If I were a politician or celebrity, I would either write the book myself, or put together a book with a professional collaborator, to whom I would give credit. That's my personal preference, partly because I have written things under a byline. That doesn't mean other methods are wrong.

I have also edited pieces by other people. Sometimes it required deep editing but the original author got the byline credit. No problem. The ideas were still from the originator. I just "polished" the work.

As an aside, let me say that editing includes as much removing words as it does adding words. People who are experts in their fields (but not experts in writing) think every word they put down is golden. :lol:
 
Reba said:
I'm not a politician or celebrity, so there would be no value in my name on a book cover.

If I were a politician or celebrity, I would either write the book myself, or put together a book with a professional collaborator, to whom I would give credit. That's my personal preference, partly because I have written things under a byline. That doesn't mean other methods are wrong.

I have also edited pieces by other people. Sometimes it required deep editing but the original author got the byline credit. No problem. The ideas were still from the originator. I just "polished" the work.

As an aside, let me say that editing includes as much removing words as it does adding words. People who are experts in their fields (but not experts in writing) think every word they put down is golden. :lol:
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So true, Reba.
 
Why mess up a good book writing that? I'll just nod my head instead.
 
Ghostwriters are commonly used by politicians who submit their stories, history and other written or verbal materials. Nothing bogus about it. What's next? Requirement for greater transparency?
 
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