As Obama Advocates Longer School Year, Teachers' Unions Push for Shorter Weeks

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Last fall, when the American Federation of Teachers endorsed him for president, Barack Obama spoke to a crowd of 3,000 union members and promised that "we will change education in this country; and we will bring about a better future for our children..."

One way to build that better future, Obama has said, is to increase the number of hours children spend in school, both by lengthening the days themselves and by shortening vacations to extend the school year.

But now, as President Obama pushes for more hours in school, some of his staunchest supporters are moving in the other direction, seeking to adopt four-day school weeks as a way to avoid pay cuts and firings in the face of crumbling state budgets.

In order to save everyone's job, teachers' union organizers in many states and school districts are advocating payless furloughs for all employees -- getting four days' pay for four days' work.

But critics say the teachers are putting their own priorities above the students they're supposed to be nurturing, and that payless furloughs will cost the kids services and class time.

In Hawaii, where the Department of Education has to cut $468 million over the next two years, the State Teachers Association, which represents 13,000 public school teachers, has agreed to the creation of "Furlough Fridays."

Rather than accept layoffs, the teachers have decided to take 17 Fridays off. That means 170,800 students will be out of school on Fridays, and teachers will have to try to cover the instructional minutes for the year in 163 days instead of the usual 180.

"I was really shocked, going 'What are they thinking. Are they insane'?" said Kristie Charron, an elementary school parent. "How are they (the students) going to learn?"

The president of the Teachers Association, Wil Okabe, said he isn't happy with the agreement, but that "Furlough Fridays" will cause the least disruption to the public school system. And he placed the blame for the tough decision on the state's legislators.

"The Board of Education and the Hawaii State Teachers Association should never have been put in this position," Okabe said in a written statement. "Our children and students should not have been forced to miss class days. The state should have maintained a commitment to our children and funded their education at the appropriate level and provided them the 180 days of instructional time they deserve."

On the first Furlough Friday, October 23 -- concerned parents are planning to rally at the Hawaii state Capitol.

"As a parent I just didn't think it could happen. We thought we were protected by federal laws," said Debbie Schatz, co-president of the Parent Teacher Student Association at Aikahi Elementary School.

But the number of days in a school year is determined by the individual states, not the federal government. In Idaho, the school year is 170 days, 10 fewer than most states. Others, like Colorado, Delaware and Michigan, dictate the number of hours -- not days -- in a school year.

And since the length of the school year is decided by states and school districts, the teachers' unions have a great deal of bargaining power in making the decisions.

Other school districts using furloughs to save money this year are in Georgia, North Carolina, New Mexico, Florida and California. And other unions, too, are winning furloughs over layoffs. In the Los Angeles School District, 1,100 bus drivers recently agreed to take six furlough days, leaving parents scrambling to figure out how to get their children to school on the days the buses don't run.

"Furloughs are a way of sharing the suffering equally," said Ed Muir, deputy director of research at the American Federation of Teachers, which has more than 1.4 million members.

"There's nothing that you can do that isn't going to hurt the students. You can do layoffs. You can do furloughs. You're going to increase the class size, taking away instructional time, one way or another," he said.

But critics say there are real losers when teachers take furloughs: the students, who miss valuable time in the classroom. And they say there's another way to meet drastic budgets: fire some bad teachers.

Frederick Hess, director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, said school officials should be using the economic downturn as an opportunity to consolidate what he says is an overpopulated teacher workforce.

"One good thing about rough patches is that they provide the motivation and cover to make difficult personnel choices," Hess said.

Since 2000, he said, school districts nationwide have hired teachers at twice the rate that they have added new students.

"It's disturbing that rather than addressing this directly, school teachers and school districts are trying to dance around the real issue," Hess said. "Furloughs are a result of small-minded, timid management."

Muir said many AFT unions, including ones in St. Louis and Detroit, are developing measures, like peer reviews, to weed out ineffective teachers. But he said many districts don't have policies on how to deal with those teachers. He also said that peer reviews and layoffs should not be used as a mechanism for dealing with budget cuts. "Due process is a guarantee of a process, not of an outcome," he said.

Muir said unions are doing the best they can in the face of difficult decisions. "When there isn't enough money, there isn't enough money," he said. "There's no good way out of a crisis this bad."

But critics say there's a bad way out of a bad crisis: four-day work weeks and shorter school years.

There are other victims, too. Working parents who are suffering financially will have tough decisions to make on furlough days: whether to pay for child care, skip work or pay for programs that are being created by local service organizations. Some parents in Hawaii are even considering "renting" schools on furlough days and paying the teachers to staff them.

With the Obama administration advocating tougher testing and higher academic standards, critics say, it's ironic that some of Obama's staunchest supporters, the teachers' unions, are putting up roadblocks in his way.

When asked whether there's a growing divide between what the unions are doing by shortening the school week and what the president is advocating, the AFT's associate director of public affairs, John See, said his office was too busy to answer the question.

On further questioning, he said his office is developing a policy to deal with inquiries from Fox News and FOXNews.com.

Source: As Obama Advocates Longer School Year, Teachers' Unions Push for Shorter Weeks - Political News - FOXNews.com
 
We have money to spend on education. We spend the money on other things instead.

The teaching profession is not over populated where I live (especially math and science). Maybe this is a regional difference.

What would make the most difference in our public school system would be decreasing class sizes. The reason that idea is rejected is because it would cost money. My state limits class size but the cap is too high, especially for lower grades. When classes are too large, it becomes crowd control and individual students who need attention don't get it.
 
Well, maybe this isn't such a bad thing if you think about it. The thing is, they wouldn't be spending more time in the classroom if the school year was extended. They would get the same amount of time off, only not all at once.

They would get frequent breaks instead of just a two-month vacation which can be quite a burden on a lot of working parents. A lot of kids end up slacking off in the last month of the school year and once they get back to school, they end up forgetting a valuable amount of education they received the year before.
 
Well, maybe this isn't such a bad thing if you think about it. The thing is, they wouldn't be spending more time in the classroom if the school year was extended. They would get the same amount of time off, only not all at once.

They would get frequent breaks instead of just a two-month vacation which can be quite a burden on a lot of working parents. A lot of kids end up slacking off in the last month of the school year and once they get back to school, they end up forgetting a valuable amount of education they received the year before.

That's true in some aspects. My 9th grader told me they were reviewing what they had learned last year whenever I questioned him about it.

But I'm not in favor of extending the school days or taking the 2 months vacation away. I feel my boys work hard, get up very early in the AM, play sports for the school and are loaded up with homework, 2 hours worth every evening.

Their 2 months vacation is well deserved and well earned. And it's quality time for the family. Everybody deserves a vacation!
 
But I'm not in favor of extending the school days or taking the 2 months vacation away

That's the thing, they aren't advocating for more school days, they are proposing a year-round system with shorter weeks and more frequent breaks (longer weekends, more week-long vacations, etc) instead of a two-month vacation.
 
I would think that for the most part in education, yes teachers should be teaching, but the rest is up to the students and their parents. Parents need to take the time to ensure that kids are understanding fully what they are trying to learn.

But otoh, alot of kids don't care for school and does not want to have the motivation in learning, no matter how hard the teacher/parent tries to motivate them, in the end, if a kid has no interest in pursuing in their education, that's pretty much their problem.

Yiz
 
I lived in a state that had year round school. It worked pretty well unless you have kids at different schools with different vacation times. That was a problem for many parents. Generally, it worked well for the students.
 
We may have less school days, but we really have longer school hours. I remember feeling exhausted at the end of school and I don't think kids really want to stay longer.

beside, I love my lazy summer days. I know in the city, they don't really care about lazy summer, but the people in the country do. They do have gardens and farms to tend as well. Their parents sometime need their help with the chore sometimes.

I had to help my mother with her garden every summer.
 
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